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Dominik Szoboszlai - Welcome to Liverpool


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4 minutes ago, Lee909 said:

 

 

Listening to Ian Grahams book and he spends ages talking up Coutinho and then saying how he hated him shooting from distance and hates anyone doing it and the stats show....

 

I'm sure these data nerds would rather the game was played on a FM simulation game or robots programmed to play a certain way. 

 

The last couple of chapters have been boring as fuck and reads like they need everyone to understand how they get the game more than anyone else

 

At the same time he says he pushed for Edwards to watch Kieta because of stats and then keeps saying how he was great when he played buy injuries held him back. Half switched off listening since that

You obviously wouldn't tell Messi or Steven Gerrard to completely stop shooting from distance, but it's just common sense that generally, shooting far from goal is not efficient.

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44 minutes ago, Joey8FrogsLegs said:


Great analysis.


Can't edit posts round here and I really can't be asked proof reading my every word.

 

If we're capable of playing worse without one of our worst performers this season for a few games, then I'd be very worried......either way, it's time to give someone else a go.

 

 

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30 minutes ago, Chip Butty said:

I can Kev. His dismal performance yesterday on the back of a number this season, is becoming too frustrating. 
 

We all want him to succeed, but for whatever reason, it feels like we are carrying him at spells during games, whilst he’s offering very little, and misses like that - show that at the moment, it just ain’t working for him - plus when Curtis come on, he showed more control  and precision, tells me Curtis should be given the nod for a few games. 
Dom is a professional, he should recognise himself that he’s not setting the world alight and it’s time to try something different. 

 

I was talking about the shot. 

 

I agree with you that Jones should come in. Dom looks like he's not enjoying playing. A spell out might help

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30 minutes ago, 3 Stacks said:

You obviously wouldn't tell Messi or Steven Gerrard to completely stop shooting from distance, but it's just common sense that generally, shooting far from goal is not efficient.

 

Of course it's not efficient. It's just listening to them and watching alot of modern football is getting robot like. Probably me being older but the loss of spontaneous acts by genius players is getting less and less as players are put in systems and coached to within a inch of their life. It's becoming football for athlete robots. The guy spends a good bit of time telling everyone in the book how good Keita was according to his stats. How Balotelli was a worthwhile gamble

 

There's a place for stats, especially in scouting but footballers dint need everything coached out of them.

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15 minutes ago, Lee909 said:

 

Of course it's not efficient. It's just listening to them and watching alot of modern football is getting robot like. Probably me being older but the loss of spontaneous acts by genius players is getting less and less as players are put in systems and coached to within a inch of their life. It's becoming football for athlete robots. The guy spends a good bit of time telling everyone in the book how good Keita was according to his stats. How Balotelli was a worthwhile gamble

 

There's a place for stats, especially in scouting but footballers dint need everything coached out of them.

I think it's just about coaching the right thing to do for the majority players.

 

It's true you don't want to tell someone like Yamal never to have a go but simultaneously no one watches footy to watch countless merely decent players put the ball into row z.

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49 minutes ago, VladimirIlyich said:

He's so shit that he's being chosen regularly by managers of one of the top teams in Europe who are top of their own league and a coaching staff with scientific equipment and data coming out of their backsides. But I'll side with random people on the internet.

 

You don't need a fucking Bunsen burner, you just need eyes to see he's not playing particularly well.

 

The reason the manager is picking him is because he was given jack shit to improve his squad with over the summer & Jones/Elliott have been injured. Long story short, there are no other real options.

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13 hours ago, Mook said:

 

You don't need a fucking Bunsen burner, you just need eyes to see he's not playing particularly well.

 

The reason the manager is picking him is because he was given jack shit to improve his squad with over the summer & Jones/Elliott have been injured. Long story short, there are no other real options.

If we are winning then I don't give a fuck. Players play a role they are asked to do by their managers and coaches so being regularly selected means Slobbo is doing it well enough for them. Eleven players rarely all play well but others compensate for lower par performances as that is why its a team game. He's doing ok for the coaches and manager so that's fine by me.

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12 minutes ago, VladimirIlyich said:

If we are winning then I don't give a fuck. Players play a role they are asked to do by their managers and coaches so being regularly selected means Slobbo is doing it well enough for them. Eleven players rarely all play well but others compensate for lower par performances as that is why its a team game. He's doing ok for the coaches and manager so that's fine by me.

i think though people have one eye down the road when we might play a top half team. 

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14 hours ago, Lee909 said:

 

Of course it's not efficient. It's just listening to them and watching alot of modern football is getting robot like. Probably me being older but the loss of spontaneous acts by genius players is getting less and less as players are put in systems and coached to within a inch of their life. It's becoming football for athlete robots. The guy spends a good bit of time telling everyone in the book how good Keita was according to his stats. How Balotelli was a worthwhile gamble

 

There's a place for stats, especially in scouting but footballers dint need everything coached out of them.

 

Yep, I find most footy pretty boring these days. It's being Americanised, like American football - it's robots carrying out instructions as efficiently as possible. 

 

Maybe it's better? Dunno, not for me. I'd rather watch The Big Match Revisited. 

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3 minutes ago, johnsusername said:

 

Yep, I find most footy pretty boring these days. It's being Americanised, like American football - it's robots carrying out instructions as efficiently as possible. 

 

Maybe it's better? Dunno, not for me. I'd rather watch The Big Match Revisited. 

i think it depends on the situation. when you see fast moving football, because players know where gaps are and how to exploit it, it can still be great. but i do agree that too much football currently is being robotic, taking as little risk as possible and hoping for odd bits of individual brilliance or a mistake and you pick up a freebe - like salah should have had at the weekend. 

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2 hours ago, Smell The Glove said:

It's the big games that he more than likely shows his worth, when we need ground covering.

 

maybe. but the point should be if people think he's struggling against low quality opposition, rather than think we have it all cracked because we've beaten bottom half sides, you can't say "no, against those good players, in good teams, he will be sound because he's good at running". he's been poor to average for a long time now - and it includes a run where he lost his place. I accept @VladimirIlyich point of view that while we're winning, he must be doing something right and the manager is happy with him. but i don't see how the poor quality of opposition we have faced so far can't raise a few question marks. it's not like there's loads of players fighting for his shirt. there's one who's injured. another who's been injured. 

 

for the record, i think the lad will come good, i think he has all the tools - but i think he needs to massively up his game. he's not the only one to be fair, but it doesn't get him a free pass. 

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3 hours ago, VladimirIlyich said:

If we are winning then I don't give a fuck. Players play a role they are asked to do by their managers and coaches so being regularly selected means Slobbo is doing it well enough for them. Eleven players rarely all play well but others compensate for lower par performances as that is why its a team game. He's doing ok for the coaches and manager so that's fine by me.

 

If you don't give a fuck how he's playing, why spend time on his thread on a Football forum? 

 

The whole point of this thread is to discuss how he played & how we think he might play in the future. This bloke cost over £60m & has been average for 12 months now so people are going to discuss that on here, regardless if the team wins or not.

 

As Barry has pointed out, we won't be playing Nottingham Forest or Wolves every week, which is a concern for those of us who look beyond the 'Manager knows best' landfill you are posting. 

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3 hours ago, Smell The Glove said:

It's the big games that he more than likely shows his worth, when we need ground covering.


I think there is merit in this comment. Like how the mancs always used to pick Park, although Don does need to be better on the ball. 

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On 30/09/2024 at 15:11, Mook said:

 

If you don't give a fuck how he's playing, why spend time on his thread on a Football forum? 

 

The whole point of this thread is to discuss how he played & how we think he might play in the future. This bloke cost over £60m & has been average for 12 months now so people are going to discuss that on here, regardless if the team wins or not.

 

As Barry has pointed out, we won't be playing Nottingham Forest or Wolves every week, which is a concern for those of us who look beyond the 'Manager knows best' landfill you are posting. 

Because I think it's a poor argument that somebody allegedly so poor is a regular in a world class football team. You'd think he played in a division 5 Sunday pub team on here.

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8 hours ago, VladimirIlyich said:

Because I think it's a poor argument that somebody allegedly so poor is a regular in a world class football team. You'd think he played in a division 5 Sunday pub team on here.

 

It's all about perspective though, he's been generally poor playing in a top level team. We're discussing Champions League & Premier League Football here, it's not The Marine Way.

 

Better tonight anyway, long may it continue.

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