Dominik Szoboszlai - Welcome to Liverpool

[El Rojo]

He was a weird signing in FSG terms. £60m on a relatively low key player who there wasn’t a massive buzz about, from  what I can remember. 

[VERBAL DIARRHEA]

He needs to get better and quick, a few will be out the door in the summer however Slot does. Hope he does well obviously.

[johnsusername]

1 minute ago, VERBAL DIARRHEA said:

He needs to get better and quick, a few will be out the door in the summer however Slot does. Hope he does well obviously.

 

Do you think? I actually think the club is one of the easiest to hang around at for underperforming players. Very few are forced out of they don't fit. Look at Keita as prime example number one. Then there's Ox. Origi. Thiago. Clyne etc etc 

[VERBAL DIARRHEA]

12 minutes ago, johnsusername said:

 

Do you think? I actually think the club is one of the easiest to hang around at for underperforming players. Very few are forced out of they don't fit. Look at Keita as prime example number one. Then there's Ox. Origi. Thiago. Clyne etc etc 

All injury prone with clubs not wanting to buy. Nunes, Szlob etc etc aren’t.

[Jairzinho]

1 minute ago, VERBAL DIARRHEA said:

All injury prone with clubs not wanting to buy. Nunes, Szlob etc etc aren’t.

 

We paid big money for those two though. 

 

You know the club would rather spend nine transfer windows trying to get the exact valuation the laptop gimps have put on the players rather than fucking them off for a bit less and getting on with trying to improve the squad.

[VERBAL DIARRHEA]

1 minute ago, Jairzinho said:

 

We paid big money for those two though. 

 

You know the club would rather spend nine transfer windows trying to get the exact valuation the laptop gimps have put on the players rather than fucking them off for a bit less and getting on with trying to improve the squad.

I know, we never just cut our losses so to speak.

[3 Stacks]

45 minutes ago, El Rojo said:

He was a weird signing in FSG terms. £60m on a relatively low key player who there wasn’t a massive buzz about, from  what I can remember. 

There's always been some buzz around him and Newcastle were also in for him when we were. He was always viewed as a high potential player.

[VERBAL DIARRHEA]

5 minutes ago, 3 Stacks said:

There's always been some buzz around him and Newcastle were also in for him when we were. He was always viewed as a high potential player.

He needs to start showing it.

[SasaS]

Maybe we should reconsider buying from clubs where entire business model / reason for existence revolves around making players look good so you can flog them for the most money at the earliest good opportunity, like RB "franchises" or Benfica.

[stringvest]

27 minutes ago, SasaS said:

Maybe we should reconsider buying from clubs where entire business model / reason for existence revolves around making players look good so you can flog them for the most money at the earliest good opportunity, like RB "franchises" or Benfica.

 

we've done it so many times.  Players who flatter to deceive in their first few games, before settling down into mediocrity or worse.

[stringvest]

19 hours ago, johnsusername said:

 

Do you think? I actually think the club is one of the easiest to hang around at for underperforming players. Very few are forced out of they don't fit. Look at Keita as prime example number one. Then there's Ox. Origi. Thiago. Clyne etc etc 

 

Thiago wasn't underperforming.  He was underplaying.

[Carra_is_legend]

I really don't think he is a very good player. 

[Skidfingers McGonical]

Dominik Redknapp. 

[Code]

3 minutes ago, Skidfingers McGonical said:

Dominik Redknapp. 

You say it like its a bad thing.

[Elite]

I'm a fan and can see huge potential in there but agreed, it's time he starts have more output in weigh of goals and assists. He's been given the freedom by Slot in that attacking role but with that requires him to deliver the goods.

 

 

[Binomial]

He's just way too frenetic on the ball, a player in his position you need to be better on the ball than off it. Carries the ball well up to a certain point, then pick your fucking head up and see what's around/in front of you instead of running into players. Too similar in style to how Emre was.

 

Still only 23/24 so we can afford to be patient, if we're still not seeing his best version in his prime years then move him on.

[etho]

There are games where his energy are valuable like v united. Against teams that sit deep, if he’s playing the 10 you need more creativity and ability to manipulate the ball in tight spaces and that’s not him clearly.

Its a shame Elliott is injured as he was excellent in the 10 in pre season, but if it ain’t him either then we need one of those as well as cover for mac and grav

[Barrington Womble]

16 minutes ago, etho said:

There are games where his energy are valuable like v united. Against teams that sit deep, if he’s playing the 10 you need more creativity and ability to manipulate the ball in tight spaces and that’s not him clearly.

Its a shame Elliott is injured as he was excellent in the 10 in pre season, but if it ain’t him either then we need one of those as well as cover for mac and grav

 

I do tend to agree you need to have a bit more guile as 10 against a team that defends like they did. But he does have pace and strength. It doesn't all need to be nice touches, flicks and delicate passes. You can just use your power and strength to drive past players, like de bruyne did till a couple of years ago or haaland does as a 9. Taking a player or two out of the game in that way drags defenders all kinds out of shape. But the trouble is, he doesn't seem to know how to access this part of his game. We've seen it, but we just don't see it often enough. In fact for the size and strength of him, i think he struggles more than he should, he's not even great at buying free kicks in dangerous positions, which I thought was the 1st rule of any number 10. 

[stringvest]

He's never a 10, but I thought his strengths were more as an 8 - using pace and strength to burst ahead of the forwards - with or without the ball.  Limited opportunity to do against teams defending deep (I refuse to use the 'low block' americanism), so his effectiveness in the team is reduced.   

[Smell The Glove]

It all depends on the opposition. He was great against the Mancs because his running is valuable both attackng and defending. He can close down quick, he can drag people out of position and he can run right and left across the pitch all day giving options. He's not cute enough to play a traditional 10 when teams defend deep and there is no space. He had about 70% pass accuracy Saturday which shows you he struggled.

[Barrington Womble]

1 hour ago, Smell The Glove said:

It all depends on the opposition. He was great against the Mancs because his running is valuable both attackng and defending. He can close down quick, he can drag people out of position and he can run right and left across the pitch all day giving options. He's not cute enough to play a traditional 10 when teams defend deep and there is no space. He had about 70% pass accuracy Saturday which shows you he struggled.

 

but he wasn't the only one with that sort of accuracy was he? i am pretty sure i saw somewhere salah was similar. but this gets back to what we were trying to do against what they were trying to stop us doing. we go narrow, they go narrower. everything becomes congested. you have less time on the ball, less chance to spot a pass and less chance to make that pass as someone will be blocking the path and if they're not, they can adjust quickly and fill in. the smaller you make the pitch, the harder it is to make accurate passes, while at the same time moving the opposition into a shape you can find enough space to create a goal. we chose to make the pitch as small as possible. the rest from there is people just doing the best they can in a difficult situation. and when things don't come off, players heads drop. 

[Bjornebye]

Can’t wait for Harvey to be fit again he’s better than this lad 

[Bobby Hundreds]

I just want to see Chiesa this side is desperate for freshening up. We got Szobaslai then ran him into the ground. Mac Allister never seems to get rest. The whole pre planned subs taking off the south American lads because you've assumed we won't need them after 60 when Dom and Salah looked like two freshly released hostages thrown on to a football pitch not knowing what the hell is going on. 

[Smell The Glove]

23 minutes ago, Barrington Womble said:

 

but he wasn't the only one with that sort of accuracy was he? i am pretty sure i saw somewhere salah was similar. but this gets back to what we were trying to do against what they were trying to stop us doing. we go narrow, they go narrower. everything becomes congested. you have less time on the ball, less chance to spot a pass and less chance to make that pass as someone will be blocking the path and if they're not, they can adjust quickly and fill in. the smaller you make the pitch, the harder it is to make accurate passes, while at the same time moving the opposition into a shape you can find enough space to create a goal. we chose to make the pitch as small as possible. the rest from there is people just doing the best they can in a difficult situation. and when things don't come off, players heads drop. 

Yes Salah had worse than Dom but Salah has loads of games in the 70's. Dom stood out as he goes from 90"s against man for man set ups to 70's on Saturday You're right in what you're saying but the way we were playing that system is Dom the right man for that position is what I'm trying to say, he is against Man Utd and I'm guessing will be against Bournemouth.

[Barrington Womble]

36 minutes ago, Smell The Glove said:

Yes Salah had worse than Dom but Salah has loads of games in the 70's. Dom stood out as he goes from 90"s against man for man set ups to 70's on Saturday You're right in what you're saying but the way we were playing that system is Dom the right man for that position is what I'm trying to say, he is against Man Utd and I'm guessing will be against Bournemouth.

In my opinion, the main 3 lads in our midfield after 2 years, 2 of them won't be at the club now. And maybe 3 if we can't keep hold of Macca. I don't think 5 of the 6 are what this manager will want ultimately. But we've got what we've got and slot has to work it out. Adjust the system or change the player.