Dominik Szoboszlai - Welcome to Liverpool

[TheHowieLama]

1 hour ago, TD_LFC said:

A third new signing would give us 9 midfielders plus Trent for 4 positions, we carried 9 midfielders last season when we played with 3 players for most of it.

 

 

Like we play now or are you assuming another full time tactical change?

[SlugTrail]

7 hours ago, Chip Butty said:

Legs, arms, a head? Come on, how similar do you need for crying out loud. 

Human is apparently the bar that has been set

[Jordy Brouwer]

10 minutes ago, SlugTrail said:

Human is apparently the bar that has been set

 

Plenty of other things have legs, arms and a head to be fair. 

[VladimirIlyich]

Come on Slobbo lad. Pull your Biro out. 

[an tha]

Tues announcement surely....

[Sandman40]

4 hours ago, joe_fishfish said:

Szoboszlai is also shit hot at set pieces which are another great way of scoring against low block sides. His direct free kicks might actually be better than Trent’s according to some reports.

 

Just have to convince the refs to actually give us some.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2UKa65XMaJw

 

There you go

[sh#t waffle]

2 hours ago, Kevin D said:

Who would have replaced him with then, smart arse?

Nabil El Zhar could have done a job.

[Lurtz]

Literally never heard of the cunt 

[Colonel Bumcunt]

Ok, for those at the back.

When we push up on Brighton or Villa, or Bournemouth, or Everton, or Burnley, or West Ham, or Brentford, or Palace, or Fulham, or Luton, or Forest, or Sheff Utd, or Wolves...across home and away games...that's 26 of the 38 league games we will play next season....they WILL counter-attack on us and they will once again be faced with Fabinho, Van Dijk, Konate, Trent.  The same, listen, the 'same' players as last season. 

 

And yes, it'll be great to see MacAllister and Szoboszlai jogging back towards the halfway line to help, but you're all so desperate for signings that you're forgetting what was wrong last season.  

 

And, toe to toe with the big boys, aka, the other 12 games of the season, it's STILL the same defensive players.  

 

Last season we scored 24 goals and conceded 16 in our games v City, United, Arsenal, Chelsea, Spurs, Newcastle.  Scoring ain't the problem. Creating ain't the problem.  6 wins, 3 draws, 3 defeats from the top 12 games. 

 

That's £95m spent and no problems solved.  Aesthetically yes we might look great at times with MacAllister and Szoboszlai, I expect we will, lovely, but come on, this isn't a particularly difficult logic problem.  

 

 

[Reckoner]

Ain’t = Isn’t 

[etho]

18 minutes ago, Colonel Bumcunt said:

Ok, for those at the back.

When we push up on Brighton or Villa, or Bournemouth, or Everton, or Burnley, or West Ham, or Brentford, or Palace, or Fulham, or Luton, or Forest, or Sheff Utd, or Wolves...across home and away games...that's 26 of the 38 league games we will play next season....they WILL counter-attack on us and they will once again be faced with Fabinho, Van Dijk, Konate, Trent.  The same, listen, the 'same' players as last season. 

 

And yes, it'll be great to see MacAllister and Szoboszlai jogging back towards the halfway line to help, but you're all so desperate for signings that you're forgetting what was wrong last season.  

 

And, toe to toe with the big boys, aka, the other 12 games of the season, it's STILL the same defensive players.  

 

Last season we scored 24 goals and conceded 16 in our games v City, United, Arsenal, Chelsea, Spurs, Newcastle.  Scoring ain't the problem. Creating ain't the problem.  6 wins, 3 draws, 3 defeats from the top 12 games. 

 

That's £95m spent and no problems solved.  Aesthetically yes we might look great at times with MacAllister and Szoboszlai, I expect we will, lovely, but come on, this isn't a particularly difficult logic problem.  

 

 

 

Ok I'll bite. Bold of you to have decided that McAllister and Szoboszlai can't and or won't press, I'm sure they'll be just fine, especially Szoboszlai who already plays in a high pressing side and specifically wanted to work with Klopp. They're young hungry fit players. Also if you have better players you're less likely to give the ball away and subsequently then you're less likely to be broken on.

Mac Allister had some of the best counter pressing stats in the prem last season. Both are tactically intelligent and adaptable. They're exactly what we need.

 

The way we play (and same with man city) there will ALWAYS be the risk you can be countered on if you give the ball away. The trick is to a. Not give the ball away and b. Win it straight back if you do so that the technically inferior team can't break on you. Worked pretty well for 6 years. Young tactically intelligent midfielders fix this. 

 

I'm not even sure what point you're making to be honest as they're literally the ideal signings to fix the press and improve us tactically. 

 

[TD_LFC]

35 minutes ago, etho said:

Ok I'll bite. Bold of you to have decided that McAllister and Szoboszlai can't and or won't press,

 

He's just annoyed that we haven't sold Nunez/Salah and replaced them with Toney and Zaha so he's lashing out.

[Bruce Spanner]

38 minutes ago, etho said:

 

Ok I'll bite. Bold of you to have decided that McAllister and Szoboszlai can't and or won't press, I'm sure they'll be just fine, especially Szoboszlai who already plays in a high pressing side and specifically wanted to work with Klopp. They're young hungry fit players. Also if you have better players you're less likely to give the ball away and subsequently then you're less likely to be broken on.

Mac Allister had some of the best counter pressing stats in the prem last season. Both are tactically intelligent and adaptable. They're exactly what we need.

 

The way we play (and same with man city) there will ALWAYS be the risk you can be countered on if you give the ball away. The trick is to a. Not give the ball away and b. Win it straight back if you do so that the technically inferior team can't break on you. Worked pretty well for 6 years. Young tactically intelligent midfielders fix this. 

 

I'm not even sure what point you're making to be honest as they're literally the ideal signings to fix the press and improve us tactically. 

 

 

 

I think the point he's trying to make is that we'll only win the league by ten clear points, and not the twenty we should be doing, after a couple of draws against the dross.

 

Understandable really, keeping me up at night as well.

[Colonel Bumcunt]

28 minutes ago, etho said:

 

Ok I'll bite. Bold of you to have decided that McAllister and Szoboszlai can't and or won't press, I'm sure they'll be just fine, especially Szoboszlai who already plays in a high pressing side and specifically wanted to work with Klopp. They're young hungry fit players. Also if you have better players you're less likely to give the ball away and subsequently then you're less likely to be broken on.

Mac Allister had some of the best counter pressing stats in the prem last season. Both are tactically intelligent and adaptable. They're exactly what we need.

 

The way we play (and same with man city) there will ALWAYS be the risk you can be countered on if you give the ball away. The trick is to a. Not give the ball away and b. Win it straight back if you do so that the technically inferior team can't break on you. Worked pretty well for 6 years. Young tactically intelligent midfielders fix this. 

 

I'm not even sure what point you're making to be honest as they're literally the ideal signings to fix the press and improve us tactically. 

 

Ok I'll bite.

I don't know how the pressing midfielders are going to stop a 60 yard diagonal outball to either flank, as happened time and time again last year.  

The position didn't play their way past us, they went direct.  They have no intention of changing that. 

Man City weren't getting caught that way like we were, or not punished for it.  

Also, as I said before, Rodri is an Uber cunt and commits 3 or 4 fouls a game to stop breaks happening. When he gets a yellow they relied on Silva, or Stones to make the foul. 

Even if the opposition broke, they were faced with good defenders in Dias, or Ake or Walker to deal with it. 

[Colonel Bumcunt]

No fucker was in here last month saying that we needed to buy two attacking midfielders to fix our problems.  

Nobody.  

[Pidge]

Everybody wanted us to sign midfielders to refresh the midfield and enable us to play a higher tempo game that didn't leave us so exposed. Players capable of beating the presse and taking part in our own. We have two. Most want one more, more defensive, midfielder and one defender. Everybody.

 

A lot of the teams would press us knowing they could upset our play and stand a good chance of going ahead (remember that run of conceding first?) and only then would they sit deep and make us beat them. Both of our signings give us credible long range threats and the capability to deliver into the box, or join shorter passing moves in there.

[Fugitive]

5 minutes ago, Colonel Bumcunt said:

No fucker was in here last month saying that we needed to buy two attacking midfielders to fix our problems.  

Nobody.  

Oh fuck off, you miserable cunt.

[VERBAL DIARRHEA]

7 minutes ago, Colonel Bumcunt said:

No fucker was in here last month saying that we needed to buy two attacking midfielders to fix our problems.  

Nobody.  

Wum.

[Elite]

7 minutes ago, Colonel Bumcunt said:

No fucker was in here last month saying that we needed to buy two attacking midfielders to fix our problems.  

Nobody.  

Who would you have signed then? 

[Jimmy Hills Chin]

[TD_LFC]

24 minutes ago, Colonel Bumcunt said:

No fucker was in here last month saying that we needed to buy two attacking midfielders to fix our problems.  

Nobody.  

 

On 05/05/2023 at 07:53, TD_LFC said:

The targeting of more attack minded, higher press, #8/#10 style midfielders makes more sense in this box midfield system where the #6 holds with Trent and the #two midfielders either side push further forward when attacking.

 

If, as it seems, Mac Allister and Mount are the preferred option for those roles then I'd like to see a third midfielder adding to #6 options with Fabinho/Bajcetic, not sure that Gravenberch is that at the moment but price might dictate that move.

 

 

 

[an tha]

Let's face it anyone who can run, who does not miss 6 weeks with a broken finger nail and who is more mobile than stephen hawking improves our midfield.

[Joey8FrogsLegs]

1 hour ago, Colonel Bumcunt said:

Ok I'll bite.

I don't know how the pressing midfielders are going to stop a 60 yard diagonal outball to either flank, as happened time and time again last year.  

The position didn't play their way past us, they went direct.  They have no intention of changing that. 

Man City weren't getting caught that way like we were, or not punished for it.  

Also, as I said before, Rodri is an Uber cunt and commits 3 or 4 fouls a game to stop breaks happening. When he gets a yellow they relied on Silva, or Stones to make the foul. 

Even if the opposition broke, they were faced with good defenders in Dias, or Ake or Walker to deal with it. 

 

There are mainly two things you hope to achieve by pressing. Ideally win the ball high in the field, catch the opponent off balance and score. Or prevent/slow down the opponents attack, for example by putting them under pressure to prevent them playing an accurate 60 yard pass.

 

Hope that helps, but I’m pretty sure it doesnt.

[Colonel Bumcunt]

1 hour ago, Elite said:

Who would you have signed then? 

Hard to say without knowing how much we've actually got in our pockets.  It all looks free-spending at the moment but don't you get the feeling there's a big OUT we're not expecting? 

 

I'd have got 1 attacking mid, and then someone big and mobile to cover or replace Fabinho.  And then, if we're going to persist with 3 at the back another rapid lad to cover.  

Thing is, I quite like Jones at this point and I think if we don't back him by starting him then what are we telling him?  He's the same age as Szoboszlai.  

 

Obviously you buy to complement your team, but in my mind Nunez is our number 9, we have to buy with that in mind, but many people have Gakpo as the 9.  That's two very different players who need serving differently.  

 

Above all else, I think we're missing a leader by example central midfielder.  Henderson is the one who shouts but it's debatable how much he's being listened to or if he should be listened to.  We need a Hodor.  

 

I want it all to work, I want to be wrong, but I don't currently see how  we're a solid, mentally strong defensive unit.  

 

 

[TD_LFC]