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Summer 2023 Transfer Thread


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1 minute ago, FrenchEyeGlass said:


Of course, and as a fan I retain the right to judge those choices, just like everybody does, it is on that truth that the paradigm of a fan forum exists upon. Saying that they have to make choices and live by them is akin to saying that grass is green. 
 

So with that said, my current judgement is that our club is full of thick and inept cunts if they think this window and the state of this squad is acceptable. And if Klopp is complicit in that decision making then he deserves a share of that judgement. 

I don't think it's akin to saying the grass is green. You have people on here every day, and LFC supporters elsewhere, saying for years that Klopp is hamstrung. 

 

Where Klopp's been hurt this summer is he has no real Sporting Director. He's got some random German guy doing the paperwork. And that is 100% on the owners.

 

Besides that though, the direction of this club is very much what Klopp wants it to be. If there's more coming in, there's more coming in, but as I said, we can't really say the numbers are insufficient. So once that's settled, yeah, we deal with the choices.

 

 

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10 hours ago, Carvalho Diablo said:

I'm not as negative on this transfer window as most; I believe our team got a lot better but out squad depth is weaker.

 

These penny pinching FSG cunts really do need to fuck off though.

 

It's just a matter of time and a couple of key injuries before another season goes completely tits up.

 

They cannot repeatedly rely on Jurgen's magic and outright luck to see us through the season.


I mostly agree with this, but would add that finishing 5th and then somehow weakening the squad is not ideal.

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9 hours ago, Anubis said:

The reality is that we really need a midfielder and a defender. You can’t spin that. If it doesn’t happen they’ve left us short again. If they bring in a good player in either position I’d grudgingly accept it. But we really need the two.

 

Everyone talked about 4 or 5 and that was before we lost Trent's backup when Ramsey fucked off (milner too before obviously), fab and Henderson. And then the clear problems with matip and the challenges Kostas will have in this new shape. Obviously it's not enough. But it's never enough, every single summer. 

 

But I keep saying it, this summer's problem comes from previous windows. We've left ourselves too much to do. Most summers what we've done this year would look like a great window. 

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10 hours ago, Lee909 said:

Never heard anything about the first two bids

 

 

 

 


Allegedly…. we’ve offered £55m + add ins and they want >£80m (I read that from somebody else, not Grizz) and we’ve already walked away. 

 

Allegedly…. still in talks / monitoring / keeping tabs on Gravenberch, Fofana & Kone. 

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If Monaco are asking for €35m for Fofana I can see him sitting out his contract and moving for free next summer. He’s already making France squads and playing CL football with Monaco, he doesn’t need the exposure at a higher level, so wait another year and that €35m could be his rather than the club’s. Plus as Stacksy has said he’s probably not top class anyway.

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1 hour ago, Barrington Womble said:

 

Everyone talked about 4 or 5 and that was before we lost Trent's backup when Ramsey fucked off (milner too before obviously), fab and Henderson. And then the clear problems with matip and the challenges Kostas will have in this new shape. Obviously it's not enough. But it's never enough, every single summer. 

 

But I keep saying it, this summer's problem comes from previous windows. We've left ourselves too much to do. Most summers what we've done this year would look like a great window. 


IMO (and I’ve said some of this at the start of the window, so it’s not revisionist…)…

 

I’ve happy for Bradley to be given the chance to be a squad player. I know it’s a huge step up, he did about as well as he could at Bolton last season, he’s earned his chance at League Cup or EL and see how he goes (I assume Gomez would fill in for Trent in any Premiership game).
 

I’m not convinced on the problems with Tsmiskas. He plays (or has played) on the left of a back 3 for Greece multiple times. Appreciate moving into midfield might not be his game, have we actually seen him and Trent on the pitch at the same time so far (ie Trent goes into midfield, Tsmiskas becomes part of the back 3)? 
 

I agree on Matip. He was really poor for majority of last season.
 

I do think there are huge question marks over Gomez’s consistency as good as he was against Everton or Man City, complete capitulations like he had v Real Madrid aren’t acceptable (I know he wasn’t the only one, he was by far the worst of a rotten 2nd half bunch).
 

In midfield, we likely have the numbers - Endo, Thiago, Szoboszlai, Mac Allister, Jones, Elliot & Bajectic is 7 - I can’t argue it still feels light in terms of experience and, I don’t know the word, steel? They all look really nice footballers, will they dig in and win games through sheer force of will like we used to be able to do? I suppose that all comes from experience and without previous leaders in Hendo & Milner, others need to step up. It feels a bit sink or swim. 

 

I agree we need another midfielder, even if we add Gravenberch / Fofana / Kone before the window, will experience / force of will / steel change?

 

If we can add a defender and midfielder in the next 8 days, I think we’ll actually be in quite decent shape. Whether that is enough to challenge for the title again, unfortunately that’s very debatable. 

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10 hours ago, 3 Stacks said:

Hate to break it you but that's how a forum works. We're laymen with no inside information and therefore, opinions change when the facts change.

 

Couldn't care less what the likes of yourself think anyway. You're some alt account that somehow got banned on a forum with almost zero moderation. You're a complete indesirable. 


 

@Paulie Dangerously

 

@El Rojo

 

Shots fired.

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The squad is short of a Fabinho replacement and a defender at a minimum. Doesn't look like we'll get them or the players are available now, so while we have improved the midfield, the window would have to be seen as a failure and we're walking a tightrope defensively as none of the cover is adequate

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47 minutes ago, Josef Svejk said:

 

I was commenting on the YouTube clip, not our scouting. It's a shit YouTube clip.

Wasn't having a go mate, we all indulge in a little youtube scouting, just making a pant wetting joke

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3 minutes ago, JohnnyH said:

 

Toni Kross has commented.  And he's right.

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I can understand players at the end of their career going to Saudi for a last pay day. It was the Premiership 30 years ago, China for about 10 minutes, the MLS more recently, now it’s Saudi. 

 

I don’t understand players who have their whole career in front of them wanting to play there. Did Veiga grow up dreaming of winning the Saudi league or Asian CL? I doubt he even knew there was one before Benzema announced he was going. 

We’ll find out players real motivations over the next few years.

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6 minutes ago, Scott_M said:


I can understand players at the end of their career going to Saudi for a last pay day. It was the Premiership 30 years ago, China for about 10 minutes, the MLS more recently, now it’s Saudi. 

 

I don’t understand players who have their whole career in front of them wanting to play there. Did Veiga grow up dreaming of winning the Saudi league or Asian CL? I doubt he even knew there was one before Benzema announced he was going. 

We’ll find out players real motivations over the next few years.

He'll earn in a year what he might have made in a successful career at Celta. Its not hard to understand, plus coach Jaissle is there to sweeten the deal, who doesn't want to play for him?

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4 minutes ago, No2 said:

He'll earn in a year what he might have made in a successful career at Celta. Its not hard to understand, plus coach Jaissle is there to sweeten the deal, who doesn't want to play for him?


No, I get the money aspect. 
 

It depends what players get into being a footballer for. Personally, I’d like the glory of winning the league or scoring the winner in the CL Final. I know I’d be handsomely paid, the money is secondary. 
 

As I said, if they just want money, players true motivation will come out in the future years. 

 

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