Tory Cunt Leadership Race.

[Arniepie]

4 minutes ago, Kepler-186 said:

 

That audience needs fucking gassing 

[johnsusername]

Oh my god, they just get worse. Who will they nominate next, Pol Pot?

 

 

 

 

 

[Creator Supreme]

16 minutes ago, johnsusername said:

Oh my god, they just get worse. Who will they nominate next, Pol Pot?

 

 

 

 

 

So he's not been chancellor in 15 years, but it's his fault?

[Arniepie]

21 minutes ago, johnsusername said:

Oh my god, they just get worse. Who will they nominate next, Pol Pot?

 

 

 

 

 

I'm no economist..but unless I'm missing something, our economy has not exactly been a golden era over the last 12 years?

[Section_31]

40 minutes ago, Arniepie said:

That audience needs fucking gassing 

She makes Gareth Gates sound like Cicero.

[Anubis]

Let’s see how many of the fuckers clap when they’re paying £250 for an A&E consult to some US based provider.

 

 

 

[Anubis]

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[Kepler-186]

 

[Colonel Bumcunt]

Not long now until it's all over. 

 

A grim carnival of slobbering, wretched goons oversees the world economies. 

 

Greed, stupidity, and a detachment from the reality of how fragile we are as a species. 

As Carlin said, the Earth isn't in danger, we are a rogue species that will end itself and then the Earth will heal.

[Kepler-186]

The lads grafting round Liverpool are natural Conservatives. Self motivated, free market entrepreneurs pushing the boundaries.  Always keen to expand into new markets and expand operations with aggressive marketing campaigns. Supplying The City of London with its fuel to get the bankers through the day. Truly a mercantile city! 

 

 

[Kepler-186]

 

[Arniepie]

1 hour ago, Kepler-186 said:

 

Excellent read that.

Very good point about a duty of care being abhorrent and its a policy that can be traced back to Thatcherism..look after no 1,don't really on the state to look after you if you liose your job or yet sick,despite paying into the system all your life.

Seen numerous comments thus week along the lines of..if you can't afford to heat yourself this winters,it's your own fault.

[Kepler-186]

33 minutes ago, Arniepie said:

Excellent read that.

Very good point about a duty of care being abhorrent and its a policy that can be traced back to Thatcherism..look after no 1,don't really on the state to look after you if you liose your job or yet sick,despite paying into the system all your life.

Seen numerous comments thus week along the lines of..if you can't afford to heat yourself this winters,it's your own fault.

Unfortunately,  the latest incarnation of the Tory Party are about to implement full on US libertarian style “any government is communism” reforms to a system that has already been stripped bare over the last 12 years. Soulless ghouls the lot of them. 

[Kepler-186]

 

[Arniepie]

Liz truss has poured scorn over Gordon browns idea to increase the windfall tax and has instead come up with a solution..she is going to get the energy companies to keep the bills as low as possible. 

Genuis  

And here was me worrying. 

[Vincent Vega]

This is a really interesting comment piece from a conservative commentator in The Spectator on how pointless the Tory government is, interested in power for powers sake and not to actually do anything.

 

John Oxley

The crisis at the heart of the Conservative party

The Tories struggle to decide what they want to do and are unable to implement the few ideas they have

9 August 2022, 3:30pm

It is always interesting to read the Wikipedia pages of plane crashes. Thanks to the data recovered from black boxes, especially the cockpit voice recordings, the last moments of flights can be recreated with vivid accuracy. The most interesting are those caused largely by human error.

 

In those final fateful moments, you can observe highly intelligent, highly trained professionals making error after error, gradually dooming them and their passengers. Despite the ringing alarms of the onboard systems, they lose sight of what they are doing or how to avoid the impending doom. They pull the joystick instead of releasing it, they shut down the working engine instead of the failing one, or sometimes the two pilots pull in different directions, cancelling each other out. Eventually, they hit the Point of No Return and, shortly after, the ground.

 

The current Conservative leadership election has a similar atmosphere. Every day in this interminably long contest, the final two candidates fire out press releases and half-formed policy proposals, only to wind them back in – flailing around the controls they want to wield in a month’s time. Meanwhile, the country heads towards crisis.

 

Neither Rishi Sunak nor Liz Truss appears to recognise or acknowledge the looming problems Britain faces, both in the short and the long term. Analysts predict that this winter the energy price cap will hit £4,400. For the average household, this will represent 14 per cent of their post-tax income. As an isolated threat, that would mean deep discomfort for many households. Combined with other price rises and increasing interest rates, it will mean destitution. Government will have to act to prevent this, yet everything promised so far is lacklustre.

 

The grants already in place will cover less than 10 per cent of the cap limit. Abolishing VAT on domestic fuel would knock another 200 quid or so off, while removing the green levy would drop it by £155. It’s piecemeal help in the face of a massive problem and failing to address this now will only mean more hurried help when the bills start dropping on doorsteps.

 

This might be forgivable if that were the only issue where the candidates seemed oblivious. But everywhere you look, the country faces massive challenges that the governing party has no answer to. Many have written at length about the Tory failure to tackle the housing crisis. I won’t repeat their arguments, save to say that throughout the leadership contest there has been no serious attempt to look at housing. Rishi Sunak has swung behind defending the greenbelt, whilst Liz Truss has prevaricated and developed an obsession with Whitehall’s current ‘Soviet style’ housing targets. But as anyone who has managed key performance indicators will tell you, if there is no target for something, the target is zero.

 

Beyond this, Britain looks forward to running out of water and electricity. Infrastructure projects that could have alleviated these problems have been bandied around and frustrated for decades, and little can be done to turn this around on short notice. Yet equally, there is limited planning now for the threats in future decades. They say the best time to plant a tree was ten years ago, and the second-best time is today. In Britain, the second-best time to begin is after three preliminary reports, two judicial reviews and a general election. The best time is never.

 

Even in foreign and military policy, the natural home of the Conservative politician, things look bleak. Whilst the country has performed well in arming Ukraine, its own defence commitments have been mealy mouthed. Promised spending rises have been undermined by inflation and clever accounting, while procurement remains scandalously wasteful – the UK eliminates its own tanks more efficiently than its Javelin missiles deal with Russian ones. In a fit of beautiful bureaucracy, a chunk of our defence spending goes on consultants planning the next round of cuts and another chunk on how to cope with the last ones.

 

This isn’t, however, meant to be a mere catalogue of the UK’s woes. Instead, these issues are served up to highlight what is arguably the most pervasive and surprising problem the Tory party faces: that it doesn’t care about politics.

 

That is not to say that the party doesn’t care about winning elections. It remains ruthlessly committed to that and its record is clear. Even after the crashing scandals of the Johnson era, the incoming PM has a fighting chance of securing the next election, leaving the Tories in government for nearly 20 years. The problem is that the party no longer understands why or to what end they wield such power.

 

Many on the left would be shocked by how apolitical most of the Conservative party is. There is currently no theory in conservative politics. I suspect no more than a handful of Tory MPs have ever read Burke or Hayek, unless they cropped up on a PPE reading list. They will be far more familiar with Isabel Oakeshott than Michael. 

 

Factionalism within the party is driven far more by aesthetics than by ideology. One (former) MP once told me that when he asked his association why they had picked him for a safe seat, he was told ‘It was the lovely way you spoke about your wife at the selection’. Many MPs come to parliament without any real belief other than a view that ‘good things are good, and we should do more of them, and bad things are bad’. I’ve met less than half a dozen mainstream Tories who could be classed as ideologues.

 

At its best, this makes the party flexible and pragmatic, able to pivot around the issues of the day. At its worst (and it really seems to be falling into the worst now) it becomes listless, incapable and slightly baffled by the power it holds. It’s the cat that has finally caught the laser pointer.

 

Rather than principles or goals, the Tory party today lives for day-to-day reactions to the things that catch its eye. Most MPs have no understanding of economics, but instead repeat half-remembered maxims about lower taxes (we are, it seems, forever to the right of the Laffer curve), whilst at the same time celebrating the latest boondoggle that happens to land in their constituency.

 

In the same vein, you see the Tory MPs who have started to get their head around the housing crisis call for more housebuilding everywhere except where it threatens some historic carpark or ‘sacred’ waste site on their patch. They will tweet almost back-to-back about the unaffordability of homes and their objection to any new development.

 

This track record of the current government is testament to this. Despite coming to power with a majority of 80, as close to total control of the British state as you can have, the government has failed to push forward on any of its purported objectives. It is bizarre to see left wing commentators talk of the ‘rise of the far right’ or the democratic backsliding associated with post 2019 Conservatism, when those I know on the right laugh darkly at the impotence of the government.

 

A government which claimed to be hard-line on immigration did nothing to reduce it. A government that seeks to be tough on crime has seen petty crime become almost legal. A government that complains about ‘woke-culture’ has done nothing at a legislative level to prevent it. 

 

The Tory party is not driven by some grand policy agenda, but simply grasping at shiny objects. It passes repetitive, unnecessary and ultimately inoffensive laws that criminalise things that are already illegal – like dog theft or ­assaults on emergency workers. Or else spends its time complaining that the world, the civil service and the blob is against it. The party once sought to campaign in poetry and govern in prose, now it campaigns and governs in tweets.

 

Even on its beloved Brexit, the Conservative party tries to stoke an ongoing threat that it might be undone or revoked or strangled at birth rather than engage with the realities of leaving the EU. With the simple in and out completed, there is no clue whether Britain’s future is Singapore on Thames or shoring up the dying embers of Red Wall industries. Instead, it jumps to silly-season headlines on imperial measures and crowns on pint glasses.

 

There is ultimately an emptiness at the heart of the current Conservative party. Its politics and principles are skin deep and conflicted. It is apparent in almost everything it does, from Remainer Liz Truss becoming the ‘Brexit candidate’ for leadership to the pious Catholic Jacob Rees-Mogg defending the serial liar and philanderer Boris Johnson to the hilt, or the Tory MPs who claim to be cost conscious whilst vetoing the cheapest way to repair the Palace of Westminster because they like being surrounded by old oak and stone. Everything is an image; everything is a meme.

 

There is an almost complete absence of policy innovation. The party grasps around for yesterday’s answers to yesterday’s problems, copying the homework of Thatcher, a leader who has been out of power for 30 years and dead for ten. It’s why the party recycles so much from policy interns and fails to come up with anything equal to the challenges we face. It does not even propose simple answers for complex problems – just no answers beyond the triple lock and ever rising house prices.

 

It is not that the Conservative party is deliberately and mindfully pursuing ends inimical to British interests. Tory MPs do, mostly, want a prosperous and safe country. They’ve just lost any sense of what that means beyond platitudes, or how to engage with the challenges that stand in our way. The party would rather hide behind the curtain, pulling at levers that aren’t attached to anything.

 

I’m often amazed at the image the popular left has in this country of a scheming, conniving Conservative party, like the one it alleges is running down the NHS to sell it off to private interests. The reality is far scarier.

 

In a world where the British economy is stagnating and the population is ageing, there is no way to square the circle without raising taxes or reducing services. The Conservative party is afraid to do either, so lets the problem spiral.

 

Those that do foresee the problems look to the magic cure of ‘efficiency savings’, promised in the same way I promise that next summer I will have a six pack: lacking both a concrete plan to do it, and the discipline to implement it.

 

Instead, all the party can do is say things that appeal to the voters who keep backing it – generally older, wealthier suburban dwellers. Nowhere is this more apparent than in the leadership contest. This weekend, Twitter was ablaze with shock when Rishi Sunak talked about cutting degrees that don't lead to good jobs. Many on the left took this as an attack on the university sector, or even part of a grand plan to exclude the working classes from the humanities.

 

In truth, it is neither. It is Sunak appealing to an electorate who came of age when 10 per cent of the population went to university and economic growth carried them to prosperity, who now see their grandchildren laden with debt, unable to buy a home. It’s the ‘common sense’ of the bloke at the end of the Conservative Club bar, nothing more than a trope. It’s not something that will ever seriously happen.

 

Liz Truss’s plan for every child with three As to be offered an Oxbridge interview is similar politicking. It pays no heed to (i) the burden this places on the university (ii) that for many reasons such a person might not want to go to Oxbridge or (iii) that the highest A-level grade has been A* since 2010. It ignores many of the challenges of widening access, and in particular how universities like LSE, UCL and Imperial, which have fewer admissions resources per student and make more paper-based decisions, can bias against poorer children.

[Section_31]

Express and mail going full express and mail.

[Kepler-186]

More doom and gloom, but at least the fight back against wokery is on. 
 

https://www.economist.com/britain/2022/08/09/almost-nothing-seems-to-be-working-in-britain-it-could-get-worse

 

 

[Gnasher]

On 29/07/2022 at 09:01, Gnasher said:

I'm waiting for one of them to pledge to bring back hanging.

 

Where getting closer, 

 

 

 

 

[Anubis]

 

 

[Gnasher]

18 minutes ago, Anubis said:

 

 

Haha.. that made me laugh.

[Anubis]

You just know that a picture of Sunak snorting a line of coke is going to appear from somewhere.

[Gnasher]

It just gets fucking worse,

 

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2022/aug/10/nicola-sturgeon-says-liz-truss-asked-her-how-to-get-into-vogue

 

 

[skend04]

 

 

Apart from the fact she wasn't born in Yorkshire, and spent only a few years at a school she thought was shit because of the government of the time. Which coincidentally happened also to be Tory.

 

[Numero Veinticinco]

Just now, Gnasher said:

It just gets fucking worse,

 

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2022/aug/10/nicola-sturgeon-says-liz-truss-asked-her-how-to-get-into-vogue

 

 

She's asking the wrong leader