Someone’s Having a Real Laugh - How Long Until They ‘Bin Bag’ Ten Hag?

[Barrington Womble]

2 minutes ago, Dave D said:

I need to let it go but that Mascherano Red still stings.

 

I remember where I was in a pub surrounded by United fans and the injustice of it was breathtaking amidst their gleeful cackling.

 

 

One of the many examples of referee clamp downs which seems to fade away once they fuck us. How many other sending off were there for that?

[Arniepie]

39 minutes ago, Dave D said:

I need to let it go but that Mascherano Red still stings.

 

I remember where I was in a pub surrounded by United fans and the injustice of it was breathtaking amidst their gleeful cackling.

 

 

We were fucking shite that day.

Arguably the worst I've ever seen us play there.

[Razoray]

On 13/08/2024 at 12:36, Megadrive Man said:

 

He's a very good player. Really strong defensively and good on the ball too. Him being injured for most of last season was a big part of the reason they struggled defensively. 

Martinez has missed 55 games in the past two seasons. He can't be considered a good buy

[dave u]

4 hours ago, Vincent Vega said:

 

I saw this on Twitter and it really reminded me of how much the Mancs had the referees in their pocket when Ferguson was in charge. Mike Riley is an utter disgrace, how he was able to head up the refs after he retired is unbelievable. 

 

Of all the games I've ever watched, that is the one I'm most convinced was fixed by a referee. I remember thinking it at the time, and any time clips of it are posted it just becomes more and more obvious. 

[Megadrive Man]

Yeah they were determined to end that Arsenal unbeaten streak, and it was determined that United would be the ones to do it.

[tokyojoe]

Ferguson was bent. There were far, far to many dodgy decisions in their favour over many years for it to be a coincidence.

 

EDIT: The cunt still is, they are still getting away with murder.

[Tj hooker]

As Scudamore said the Manc bastards were the premier league brand and the brand had to be protected at all costs .

[TheHowieLama]

1 minute ago, Tj hooker said:

As Scudamore said the Manc bastards were the premier league brand and the brand had to be protected at all costs .

 

Still are, just a different set.

[Arniepie]

14 minutes ago, tokyojoe said:

Ferguson was bent. There were far, far to many dodgy decisions in their favour over many years for it to be a coincidence.

 

EDIT: The cunt still is, they are still getting away with murder.

I think the referees were Just terrified of him

I remember they played Portsmouth in the cup once at ot,and down at half time,he confronted the ref and absolutely berated him whilst he walked of the pitch 

Nothing happened of course  

Same with that "fergie time '

The media treated it as a joke when it was blatant cheating  

[razor]

I've mentioned before that an ex-Premier League ref is a mate of mine.

 

When people talk about corruption, they are implying financial gain etc.  I don't think this is true.

 

But football as an institution was certainly corrupted by Ferguson.  My mate talks about it - how intimidating he was and how the refs saw appeasement as the best way of dealing with him.

 

It's rubbish when a bully can act with impunity and nobody can speak out for fear of being isolated and not being supported by others or your employers.  It's a nightmare scenario that is actually now recognised and supported by law in the "whistleblowers act" (and yes, I did see what I just did there....).

 

One thing my mate speaks about is something I hadn't really thought of before.  He said that aside from the Cup Final, reffing at Old Trafford was seen as the pinnacle of achievement for refs.  It's what they aspired to.  So fear of jeopardising the next step of your career path was something he and others wouldn't risk.

 

And when they did risk it (look up the examples), their careers were diminished.

 

That massive arl lush was a pox on the game.  Great manager, no doubt about that, but his greatness was sustained through the worst possible circumstances.

[Anubis]

Hopefully turning your mouth the right way up.

 

[lifetime fan]

14 hours ago, Vincent Vega said:

 

I saw this on Twitter and it really reminded me of how much the Mancs had the referees in their pocket when Ferguson was in charge. Mike Riley is an utter disgrace, how he was able to head up the refs after he retired is unbelievable. 

I’ll never not believe refs were paid off when that cunt was managing them. 
 

Every other major league in Europe has proven cases of bent refs and we’re supposed to believe all ours are whiter than white and it was either just stupidity or incompetence. Bollocks. 

[sir roger]

45 minutes ago, lifetime fan said:

I’ll never not believe refs were paid off when that cunt was managing them. 
 

Every other major league in Europe has proven cases of bent refs and we’re supposed to believe all ours are whiter than white and it was either just stupidity or incompetence. Bollocks. 

 

I don't think they had to pay them off, Lifey.

 

The likes of that ref who never got a game at Old Trafford for 3 years after upsetting Ferguson was enough.

[lifetime fan]

3 minutes ago, sir roger said:

 

I don't think they had to pay them off, Lifey.

 

The likes of that ref who never got a game at Old Trafford for 3 years after upsetting Ferguson was enough.

Bullying and intimidation were definitely a factor as well, obviously. 
 

But they had refs taking brown envelopes as well and I’ll never believe otherwise. 

[joe_fishfish]

6 hours ago, razor said:

 He said that aside from the Cup Final, reffing at Old Trafford was seen as the pinnacle of achievement for refs.  It's what they aspired to.  So fear of jeopardising the next step of your career path was something he and others wouldn't risk.

Even for referees though, this is especially mental. Pinnacle of achievement to referee THERE? In front of the most entitled fans in world football (possibly excluding denizens of the Camp Nou and Bernabeu)? Why would you be arsed. It’s just big. It’s not even a good stadium.

[joe_fishfish]

That said though I can’t really understand what makes anyone want to be a ref. Shit job.

[Fugitive]

2 hours ago, Anubis said:

Hopefully turning your mouth the right way up.

 

He forgot to add “…hopefully Barcelona or Real Madrid as soon as fucking possible”.

 

Ugly little cunt.

[Barrington Womble]

9 hours ago, razor said:

I've mentioned before that an ex-Premier League ref is a mate of mine.

 

When people talk about corruption, they are implying financial gain etc.  I don't think this is true.

 

But football as an institution was certainly corrupted by Ferguson.  My mate talks about it - how intimidating he was and how the refs saw appeasement as the best way of dealing with him.

 

It's rubbish when a bully can act with impunity and nobody can speak out for fear of being isolated and not being supported by others or your employers.  It's a nightmare scenario that is actually now recognised and supported by law in the "whistleblowers act" (and yes, I did see what I just did there....).

 

One thing my mate speaks about is something I hadn't really thought of before.  He said that aside from the Cup Final, reffing at Old Trafford was seen as the pinnacle of achievement for refs.  It's what they aspired to.  So fear of jeopardising the next step of your career path was something he and others wouldn't risk.

 

And when they did risk it (look up the examples), their careers were diminished.

 

That massive arl lush was a pox on the game.  Great manager, no doubt about that, but his greatness was sustained through the worst possible circumstances.

It sounds like your mate is Graham Poll. I've heard him talk about those days and he says pretty much exactly the same. If you wanted to end up having the chance to ref a world cup final, champions league final, fa cup final, then getting away safely from old trafford without pissing off Ferguson was part of the job. He said it wasn't even a conscious trying to give them an advantage, just more if you are going to give something against them, or not give them a pen, you need to be more than 100% sure. Because he would finish you as a ref otherwise - he'd stop you from getting other games for them and as they were winning all before them, if you didn't get their games, you weren't moving up. 

 

Jeff winter also talks about that and how he did piss Ferguson off and then didn't get a game for 3 years or something. He laughs about it, but it's fucking mental he had that much power. 

[No2]

That Arsenal video above is the shortened version, there were about 25 similar tackles that went unpunished. The speed Riley points to the spot for that life is enough evidence to lock that cunt up.

[Carra_is_legend]

8 minutes ago, No2 said:

That Arsenal video above is the shortened version, there were about 25 similar tackles that went unpunished. The speed Riley points to the spot for that life is enough evidence to lock that cunt up.

Yup. The amount and nature of tackles in that game was scandalous. 

 

The first tackle Arsenal made in that game got a yellow card. 

[Code]

Some stats this .

 

1992-2022: Man Utd conceded two times to lose a game after 90 minutes.

 

Erik Ten Hag: Man Utd have conceded six times to lose games after 90 minutes. 

[Section_31]

I thought this Mainoo kid was gonna batter everyone like Neo taking on Agent Smiths? 

[sir roger]

Riley's deliberately not giving us a penalty for handball against Chelsea

( one of the Tiago's ?) at the Kop end in the Noughties was the worst decision I have ever seen. He actually put the whistle to his lips, the cheating fuck, and had the cheek to book Carra for complaining.

[Tj hooker]

Riley was bent for me the amount of decisions he gave against us and for Utd was conclusive prove for me , which is probably why he got the top job when he hung up his whistle. 

Fergusson probably wanted to keep him around exactly for placing the likes of Webb for their matches 

[TheHowieLama]

4 hours ago, lifetime fan said:

believe all ours are whiter than white 

 

They pretty much all are, but that is a different conversation.