Darwin Nunez - Thoughts?

[Jimmy Hills Chin]

34 minutes ago, Anubis said:

Don't most people live at home?

[Megadrive Man]

13 hours ago, Baltar said:

Don't think Suarez ever learned English, and it didn't do him any harm. 

 

 

[Peter Cormack]

Get rid in January if any one will take him. The miss last night was the straw that broke this camel’s back

[Baltar]

8 hours ago, Megadrive Man said:

 

 

Well, shut my mouth! 

[Lee909]

I've made my mind up and voted. I've gone with no

[cloggypop]

23 hours ago, Baltar said:

Don't think Suarez ever learned English, and it didn't do him any harm. 

 

It freaks my nut out to this day that his Dutch is way better than his English 

 

 

[Mook]

I gave up defending him towards the end of last season but genuinely don't think that miss last night was as bad as people are making out.

 

The general point that he isn't going to cut it, I'm going along with now.

 

If the owners can back Slot to get a new striker, I think he'll drop Nunez quicker than a bird whose tits have fallen off.

[janmolby]

He's shite and it was pretty obvious after watching him over his first dozen games or so. 

 

Convinced he'll end up back at Benfica either on a free or for £20m or something like that.

[Jhinge Machha]

5 hours ago, Mook said:

I gave up defending him towards the end of last season but genuinely don't think that miss last night was as bad as people are making out.

 

The general point that he isn't going to cut it, I'm going along with now.

 

If the owners can back Slot to get a new striker, I think he'll drop Nunez quicker than a bird whose tits have fallen off.

 

 

for most, it wasnt even the miss but the number of attacks he killed/passes he fucked up.

 

Like if we had a counter and he was on the ball, the problem is I don't expect him to find a pass and am more often than not relieved when he doesnt fuck it up.

 

decision making is absolutely horrid for a player at this level.

[Bobby Hundreds]

He is not good enough by a long stretch. He's a proffesional footballer so he will have his moments hidden among the often comedic failures. It would take some turn around to make it worth keeping him. I dont think I've ever seen a top level player miss kick a ball so much, to have such terrible timing striking a ball. I cant believe what we paid for him. I said at the start of the season it needs to be his best season or his last season, if this is his best he's still got to go. For now fingers crossed he somehow finds form it would be far easier for everybody if he just improved.

 

Fuck his tactical work he should be spending 8 hours a day on technical work, it should be fucking van damme training montages blindfolded kicking the fucking ball at the goal sun up until sundown. I want him plied with alcohol and having to strike the ball pissed, he needs to be doing yoga, meditation I want him practicing volleys in the spiritual plane. Work harder at being better. 

[Slots it away]

Arne has attempted to be the wizard of Oz since arriving.

He did manage to give heart and courage to Gravenberch and Gakpo respectively. Unfortunately, the intricacies of a brain implant on this subject have been beyond him.

We all have our limitations, I guess.....  

[Anubis]

In tears about the Van Damme training montages.

[El Rojo]

He was a decent goal threat in streaks of games over his first two seasons, but that seems to have evaporated completely.

The Newcastle game aside, he’s usually been good in general play this season, but a team looking to win the title can’t carry a £90m non-scoring attacker.

 

Jota is as big a problem in all of this, because if he didn’t miss so many games Nunez could be used as an impact player which is probably his most effective role.

I don’t see us moving him on in January, so we badly need to get him into something near decent form.

 

 

[Anubis]

Erik Meijr was a minor cult hero at Anfield. Crowd loved him. When he got onto the pitch he brought a shedload of energy and positivity with him. And he was a nice lad who still gets on with fans and follows us in games.

 

But he was a striker. And he couldn't score for toffee. And he was moved on pretty quickly because he couldn't do what we wanted. 

 

Darwin is a nice lad. But, most of the time, he couldn't score if he stood there with the ball and we threw the goal at him. He can't do what we need him to do. We've a body of evidence going back two seasons. And no amount of wishing him into greatness is going to work. Its time to move him on.

[gkmacca]

21 hours ago, Jimmy Hills Chin said:

Don't most people live at home?

 

Maybe they have conducted a survey exclusively of virgins - a very methodologically dubious choice, I have to say - and few if any of those virgins questioned who have left home are pro-Nunez, while most or all of those who remain at home think he's 'all that'. I'm really not sure where they think that data can take them, other than extremely specialist journals such as Virgin Studies, Virgin Quarterly or Virgin: on the Ridiculous.

[TD_LFC]

9 hours ago, janmolby said:

He's shite and it was pretty obvious after watching him over his first dozen games or so. 

 

Convinced he'll end up back at Benfica either on a free or for £20m or something like that.

 

Not convinced Benfica would want him back.

 

His one good season with them the rest of the team struggled to get in to double figures in goal scoring, it was like, similar to the Ronaldo season at Utd under Solksjaer, they were built to provide him enough chances that he's score goals purely by the law of averages, and then sell him at the first opportunity. When he left there was a better spread of goals amongst the team.

 

 

[Jennings]

I admire those who have his back but...

 

...he was never good enough and it was obvious from the very  start. 

 

He is impulsive rather than instinctive. Consequently his rush of blood causes him to miss the ball; miss the goal; be offside and occasionally lash one in.

 

 

Me when he is on the teamsheet...

[Mook]

41 minutes ago, El Rojo said:

He was a decent goal threat in streaks of games over his first two seasons, but that seems to have evaporated completely.

The Newcastle game aside, he’s usually been good in general play this season, but a team looking to win the title can’t carry a £90m non-scoring attacker.

 

Jota is as big a problem in all of this, because if he didn’t miss so many games Nunez could be used as an impact player which is probably his most effective role.

I don’t see us moving him on in January, so we badly need to get him into something near decent form.

 

 

 

I think it was more like £63m with add ons, I'm guessing we've not had to pay too much of them but happy to be corrected on that.

[TD_LFC]

We've paid around 10-12 million of his bonuses over the last year or so, so we're closer to 75m paid so far.

 

Should have based the bonuses on goals instead of appearances/starts, they'd probably owe us money.

[Scott_M]

There have been some good prefomances in Jota's absence...

 

Chelsea

Leipzig

Villa (although he should have scored more than one)

Real Madrid

 

... however, you can hardly say he's grasped the opportunity with both hands and has really claimed a stake to be our first choice 9 when everybody is fit.

 

Every time we think we've taken a step forward with him, we seemingly take a step backwards just as quickly. 

 

Now Chiesa is almost fit, all the other 5 players can play through the middle. I can only see him being used less & less.

 

I don't think we'll do anything in January, I think it needs addressing in the summer. Continued talk on Cunha, I'd be surprised we pay Wolves want they'd ask for. Vlahović is out of contract in 2026, looking at how they treated Chiesa, I reckon they'll be open to seeing in the summer if they can't tie him down. We always like a player from Leipzig, Openda has a £80m release clause and I think Sesko has a £50m release clause. 

[Babb'sBurstNad]

As poor a fit as he is for this Slot team,  I do wonder if we'll see better out of him now Trent's back. Nunez's pace, combined with someone capable of playing a great long ball, should be of use.

 

The problem though is what he does when he's in a great position. His link up play has actually regressed, and a 1 on 1 with the keeper may as well be a corner to him.

[Code]

On 05/02/2024 at 15:32, Code said:

Nunez has played 22 Premier League games this season, and he has scored in 5 of them, that means he has failed to score in 17 of the 22 PL games he has played.

 

In fact he has got a yellow card in more games than he has scored, thats something for a striker. 

 

27.08.23 Newcastle-Liverpool 1-2, scored two goals

24.09.23 Liverpool- West Ham 3-1, scored one goal

29.10.23 Liverpool- Nottingham F 3-0, scored one goal

26.12.23 Burnley-Liverpool 0-2, scored one goal

21.01.24 Bournemouth-Liverpool 0-4, scored two goals

 

Apart from him not scoring enough goals and not scoring in enough games, what can we take from this?

His 7 goals so far have directly given us 3 points in the league, he never score consistently, in fact it goes a month between him scoring a goal in the league.

 

The teams he has scored against are 7th, 9th, 12th, 16th and 19th in the league.

 

If I was going to roll the dice Id give him a three, but he’s closer to a two than a four.

 

 

 

 

 

 

I posted this 10 months ago in early February. 
 

The same points still stand.

 

We have a striker with more yellow cards than goals, so far he has failed to score in 15 of the 18 games he has played.

 

He has contributed with an assist that won us a point against Arsenal and he won us 3 points against RB Leipzig, that’s it. So far the season has been much of the same, but the main worry is that he is not improving, he is regressing. 

 

[3 Stacks]

The main thing now is what kind of player should he be replaced with.  Will it be someone like Cunha, who is the half 10 half striker, someone like Marmoush who is the half winger half striker, or the similar bigger athletic striker profile like Sesko. 

 

I think a similar profile is useful because someone who can provide a big moving target for Salah would seem ideal, but not sure that Slot really values it. Or maybe Slot just thinks Darwin is shit. 

[Arniepie]

2 minutes ago, 3 Stacks said:

The main thing now is what kind of player should he be replaced with.  Will it be someone like Cunha, who is the half 10 half striker, someone like Marmoush who is the half winger half striker, or the similar bigger athletic striker profile like Sesko. 

 

I think a similar profile is useful because someone who can provide a big moving target for Salah would seem ideal, but not sure that Slot really values it. Or maybe Slot just thinks Darwin is shit. 

Obviously thats why he started him against madrid.

[SasaS]

He isn't on huge money is he? What we spent on him is not going to be recouped, unless we gravenberched him nobody is going to offer us too much, and if we do improve him, we might as well keep him.

 

I don't mind Nunez that much as long as we are winning / playing well, he does contribute. We should just stop looking at him as someone who will be adding a lot of goals or hit some great heights once the whole of the moon reveals itself.