Darwin Nunez - Thoughts?

[an tha]

4 minutes ago, TD_LFC said:

 

If someone is commenting on what he is, absent of the cult hero tropes around him and all the chaos/peacock bluster and bullshit, then what humble pie is there to eat?

 

You just continue to comment on what he is.

 

 

If you say so.

 

As it happens i feel the other stuff is very relevant and all feeds in to 'what he is' both positively and negatively as it happens.

[Jairzinho]

I think the long and short of it is that he's young, dumb, and full of cum.

[Bobby Hundreds]

Needs to finish better. That's about it. I'd be livid if he did a Keita champions league final type shit. Fucking Keita.

[TD_LFC]

Just now, Bobby Hundreds said:

Needs to finish better. That's about it. I'd be livid if he did a Keita champions league final type shit. Fucking Keita.

 

Aspas is still dragged over the coals for one corner, let alone a shot in a CL final.

[dave u]

38 minutes ago, an tha said:

If you say so.

 

As it happens i feel the other stuff is very relevant and all feeds in to 'what he is' both positively and negatively as it happens.

 

Yeah, and the positives massively outweigh any negative.

[dave u]

40 minutes ago, TD_LFC said:

 

No I'm just commenting on one aspect of his game, he's rightly up beat and outwardly expressive when he pulls a Toulouse and we win but he needs to take that energy into the aftermath of games like Luton when we don't and his confidence drops off otherwise it just looks performative.

 

What, like on Sunday you mean when he geed up the crowd after he missed a chance, then missed another one but didn't allow it to affect him and kept plugging away to play a part in the two goals that won it for us? Like that you mean?

 

You compared his behaviour and personality to the biggest tit in the Premier League. The streets won't forget such disrespect.

[Fallen Angel]

He’s oddly divisive. But that hair is a no - not even a Bon Jovi could defend that … right?

[TD_LFC]

14 minutes ago, dave u said:

 

What, like on Sunday you mean when he geed up the crowd after he missed a chance, then missed another one but didn't allow it to affect him and kept plugging away to play a part in the two goals that won it for us? Like that you mean?

 

You compared his behaviour and personality to the biggest tit in the Premier League. The streets won't forget such disrespect.

 

What was the result on Sunday?

 

The streets are too busy praising his hair or how crazy he is to try and distract the masses from yet another shank, or air shot  to care what I say.

 

Besides I have a touch of admiration for the shameless way he completely scuffed his shot then blamed the crowd for not cheering him on loud enough, what's the Spanish for gumption?

[Barrington Womble]

28 minutes ago, dave u said:

 

What, like on Sunday you mean when he geed up the crowd after he missed a chance, then missed another one but didn't allow it to affect him and kept plugging away to play a part in the two goals that won it for us? Like that you mean?

 

You compared his behaviour and personality to the biggest tit in the Premier League. The streets won't forget such disrespect.

You're wasting your time Dave. He's consumed with needing to be right and would sooner the club and the player failed than admit he might have been wrong. He used to go on about how we had no plan for him, which was maybe the most disrespectful thing I've ever heard a Liverpool fan say about klopp. It made klopp sound like some sort of clown who picked forwards based on a couple of YouTube clips and then would deal with the player after seeing him in training. That in itself invalidates every single thing he says after that. It took him a year to retreat from that position and then tried to claim it was just tongue in cheek. There's only one clown in this situation and it's not the man who works for Liverpool.

 

TD_LFC? More like TD_1878

[TD_LFC]

When did I claim it was tongue in cheek?

 

Any plan we had for him went out the window early in the first season when we realised he couldn't do it (and that it sacrificed Salah's attacking threat as a result).

 

We spent the rest of the year pissing around trying to fit him in before giving up and just not playing him or bringing him off the bench when we had no other option.

 

What we're seeing now is a variation on City's tactic for Haaland last season (that we started using in the run in last year).

 

We had plenty of conversations about the re-emergence of the WM formation and how it would hopefully better suit him at that time.

[dave u]

1 hour ago, TD_LFC said:

Besides I have a touch of admiration for the shameless way he completely scuffed his shot then blamed the crowd for not cheering him on loud enough, what's the Spanish for gumption?

 

Well that never happened. 

 

Firstly, it wasn't shameless, secondly he didn't scuff the shot (the whipping up the crowd came after the one that smacked the bar) and thirdly he wasn't blaming the crowd for not cheering him loudly enough, he was trying to get them into the gamer and help the team to get over the line on a day when they weren't really firing.

 

What's the Spanish for agenda?

[TD_LFC]

My mistake, I'm mixing up the 'how hard and far can I hit it' and his 'how can I mis-hit it's', it's hard to keep track.

 

Maybe the solution to the crowd being more up for it when he's in front of goals is to put it through the rectangle, he wouldn't get the grumbling while he's sat on the deck and them the sympathetic support afterwards then.

[Code]

3 hours ago, dave u said:

 

Most of that is true, but as probably the best finisher on this forum I can tell you that finishing does have an element of luck to it. Sometimes you'll score with an awful mishit but then see a beautifully struck finish hit the woodwork or be saved by the keeper.

 

Darwin has had absolutely no luck whatsoever. He's also had some bad misses as well, but when the luck aspect begins to even itself out some people are going to be eating humble pie.

 

Not you Frode, there's as much chance of you ever eating humble pie as there is of Greta Thunberg eating a Big Mac.

Hah, I have no reason to eat humble pie either.

 

I have just pointed out that his misses were awful, and when he enters the pitch with a hair that would give him a sentence for life by the fashion police, he simply need to put away the easy chances.

 

I like Nunez, now Jota is out I would like to see Klopp try him out on the left with Gakpo through the middle and Salah to the right. 

[Joey8FrogsLegs]

3 hours ago, TD_LFC said:

 

What was the result on Sunday?

 

The streets are too busy praising his hair or how crazy he is to try and distract the masses from yet another shank, or air shot  to care what I say.

 

Besides I have a touch of admiration for the shameless way he completely scuffed his shot then blamed the crowd for not cheering him on loud enough, what's the Spanish for gumption?

Whatever you’ve been smoking I recommend staying off it for a while.

[Antynwa]

I know this sounds daft, but the only way Nunez can become a success at Liverpool is if we win the league. 

 

My worry about Nunez and this was almost the case v Fulham and it was partially the case via Luton is that sometimes, you've just got to score. You're not always going to get multiple chances a game, sometimes we're going to get one or two and they need to be taken.

 

Yes it's a team effort and us winning the league will have as much to do with our defence as anything, but I really don't want to be looking at the end of the season and ruing the missed chances. It's irrelevant if we win the big shiny thing at the end. But he'll have a big of a say as anyone, especially with the price tag as to what we go on to achieve this year.

 

I'm still on the fence with him,  he'll have a problem if Gakpo pushes on. 

 

 

[3 Stacks]

On 05/12/2023 at 04:21, Pidge said:

In per 90 terms, he's playing better than 1 in 2 and he will likely have contributed directly to 15+ goals by new year's. He needs to be more clinical, but he's doing fine and is a positive impact on the team giving us pace and a direct goal threat and he's still getting better.

 

 

The per 90 would look good, though, because he's rotating and not playing that many minutes. There has to come a point where he shows consistency game in game out instead of looking at something like per 90, which can be a hypothetical way of saying; "imagine all the goals he'd score if this guy played more." Well actually, we haven't seen that yet.

 

The argument in his favour is that we have 5 good players so we would rotate anyways.  But then in that case, he needs to not miss so many chances when he's out there because, yes he won us a game, but he's also cost us.

[VladimirIlyich]

On 05/12/2023 at 07:38, ZonkoVille77 said:

 

Don't think the problems are solely at the back although there are many issues there. There's no protection from the midfield. If we had a prime Fabinho we'd be unstoppable. MacAllister isn't cutting it there. Endo is capable but isn't physical enough. Szobolzlai and Gravenberch aren't the type of players to protect the back 4. That's without the square peg/round hole that is Trent at RB.

With all those problems we must be in the bottom half at least!

[VladimirIlyich]

43 minutes ago, 3 Stacks said:

The per 90 would look good, though, because he's rotating and not playing that many minutes. There has to come a point where he shows consistency game in game out instead of looking at something like per 90, which can be a hypothetical way of saying; "imagine all the goals he'd score if this guy played more." Well actually, we haven't seen that yet.

 

The argument in his favour is that we have 5 good players so we would rotate anyways.  But then in that case, he needs to not miss so many chances when he's out there because, yes he won us a game, but he's also cost us.

Cost us? Cost us what exactly?

[Pidge]

1 hour ago, 3 Stacks said:

The per 90 would look good, though, because he's rotating and not playing that many minutes. There has to come a point where he shows consistency game in game out instead of looking at something like per 90, which can be a hypothetical way of saying; "imagine all the goals he'd score if this guy played more." Well actually, we haven't seen that yet.

 

The argument in his favour is that we have 5 good players so we would rotate anyways.  But then in that case, he needs to not miss so many chances when he's out there because, yes he won us a game, but he's also cost us.

 

All fair points, but it think it has to also be considered that it's not just him coming off the bench against tired legs, he is playing a good number of minutes and they still look good in comparison to the other players he's playing with too that are also in rotation. 

 

I think he gets us chances that other players don't (and vice versa), but he def misses too many of those as well.

[TheHowieLama]

5 subs mean a forwards per 90 contribution is more important than ever before.

[manwiththestick]

He steps up tonight. I feel it in my bone.

[Bjornebye]

On 04/12/2023 at 13:04, dave u said:

Lots of baldies and old fellas hating on him because he's got a full head of hair and isn't afraid to experiment with it. 

 

Christ, I always thought I'd win the Pepsi challenge with you for being his biggest fanboy but them braids are a monstrosity*. I still love him but how can I justify calling Haaland an ugly Goomba when we've got the bird from Avatar up-front? 

 

It's doesn't surprise me one bit that you like his chop. Pining for lost days. 

 

*I love him and don't really care about his hair. 

 

 

[stringvest]

On 03/12/2023 at 22:23, AngryOfTuebrook said:

He's never made a mistake like this.

 

He looks like a cut and shut from the back.  Running around with two sets of dodgy registration plates under his arm. It's just not on, this barnet.  It's times like this I wish Herbert was still alive.

[johnsusername]

1 hour ago, manwiththestick said:

He steps up tonight. I feel it in my bone.

 

Dropped. 

[manwiththestick]

1 hour ago, manwiththestick said:

He steps up tonight. I feel it in my bone.

Off the bench it is then.