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22 minutes ago, Brownie said:

I’m mates with a Madrid fan who was there and have exchanged messages with him today. He said their fans absolutely did have problems both before and after the game albeit not at the same scale as us.

There are lots of reports saying they were getting pepper sprayed, too. Even Sky reported it. You'd hope they're not too tribal, or smug, to support the investigation.

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Just read Hogan's interview in official site. Very calm, composed and measured but at the same time calling the French as liars. I liked the legal aspect he mentioned. I sincerely hope the club takes them to the court.

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2 hours ago, Arnaud said:

Olympics and rugby WC are the reasons they lied I believe. They could not say there were bad at organization.


The Olympics. This is how we take them on.


Collate every story, every video, including the Madrid fans and that Spanish bloke who has tracked one of the locals posing on social media with a suspected terrorist. And any sponsor complaints.

 

Send the lot to the Olympic committee. Question whether they can guarantee attendee safety? Question if they can guarantee athlete safety in light of the vidos showing the organisations employed to run the events letting l people in without checks? The Olympic authorities are paranoid about athlete safety and if the French can’t guarantee the security in the Olympic village…

 

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2 minutes ago, Anubis said:


The Olympics. This is how we take them on.


Collate every story, every video, including the Madrid fans and that Spanish bloke who has tracked one of the locals posing on social media with a suspected terrorist. And any sponsor complaints.

 

Send the lot to the Olympic committee. Question whether they can guarantee attendee safety? Question if they can guarantee athlete safety in light of the vidos showing the organisations employed to run the events letting l people in without checks? The Olympic authorities are paranoid about athlete safety and if the French can’t guarantee the security in the Olympic village…

 

That's a good idea.

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2 hours ago, Arnaud said:

Olympics and rugby WC are the reasons they lied I believe. They could not say there were bad at organization.

 

I don’t know if it’s reported in the UK yet, but on French radio ( France Inter )they just said the machine they used to read the codes were bit working correctly and good tickets were nipped as fake ones. It’s total disaster…,

David Conn’s Twitter timeline is full of reds saying their legitimate tickets wouldn’t scan. Seems to be an issue with the stadium scanners rather than wide scale forgeries.

 

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19 minutes ago, gkmacca said:

There are lots of reports saying they were getting pepper sprayed, too. Even Sky reported it. You'd hope they're not too tribal, or smug, to support the investigation.

You can get a gist of a story here even if you don't speak Spanish. I don't think the Spanish are too happy with the way they are treated either. And of course this give both clubs ammunition as to why they need a super league, because uefa can't be trusted with the safety of fans. That's 2 fuck up finals in 10 days in their biggest 2 club competitions. And likely the other game wasn't a shambles because it was an Albania. 

 

 

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My mate has his own Madrid YouTube channel and he’s going live on it tomorrow to call out their bullshit. He said he’s been to 4 finals involving Liverpool and has never seen any trouble. He mingles with reds all the time (that’s how we met him).

 

He has half a million subscribers on his channel.

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Even The Spectator, Daily Mail and (apparently) that rag are backing Liverpool fans. The Spectator article is quite good but I won’t post it because they can get to fuck.

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8 minutes ago, Reckoner said:

Even The Spectator, Daily Mail and (apparently) that rag are backing Liverpool fans. The Spectator article is quite good but I won’t post it because they can get to fuck.

 

We've finally found someone the right wing media hate more than Scousers, and it's the French.

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36 minutes ago, Vincent Vega said:

David Conn’s Twitter timeline is full of reds saying their legitimate tickets wouldn’t scan. Seems to be an issue with the stadium scanners rather than wide scale forgeries.

 

So scans red 4 times then green on the fifth.

 

Is that 4 fake tickets counted and one legitimate?

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No part of official version of events in Paris rings true

May 30 2022, 5.00pm

It’s sad to see a magnificent city that so many of us love now depicted as inhospitable and dangerous. It’s where so many football fans enjoyed a wonderful day basking in the sun and the glow of anticipation for the Champions League final until heading to the Stade de France. Saturday’s subsequent shambles outside the ground was a PR disaster for the French state, which might explain its attempt to shift the blame on to fans in a buck-passing exercise that was instantly derided and disproved.

Innocent Manchester United fans were tear-gassed in Lille in 2010. Chelsea fans were tear-gassed outside Parc des Princes in 2015 and inside in 2016. Now it’s Liverpool fans. And this is the issue, certainly in trying to understand why the CRS laid out the terrain around Stade de France as if expecting a battle.

They tear-gassed rioting England fans in Marseille at France ’98 and Euro 2016 and their view of English football fans seems shaped by that. There is little sophistication in their thinking or reacting. This is in contrast to the more nuanced policing of fans in Germany where they communicate, diffuse tension and don’t go on past reputation but the reality of what’s in front of them. The problem with French police is that they have modern equipment but outdated thinking. They have their agendas and pepper-sprays.

They looked at the river of red flowing up from La Plaine RER station and thought “hooligans” — not that this is largely a well-behaved group, containing some ticketless fans and some with fakes as happens at major events, but mainly decent fans. And look closer and there was a university lecturer popular in English academia, there was the leading executive of a global clothing company, a noted football agent, a partner in a specialist pensions firm, and also those who have served diligently clubs and national associations. This was not a mob as perceived by the police. This was a collection of ages, professions and demographics.

The darkening cloud for posturing French politicians and blinkered Uefa officials is now the backlash from the corporate community, including sponsors, who are preparing letters of complaint after their treatment at the clenched fists of the French police. Uefa may talk about a duty of care to fans but history shows it mainly cares about keeping the patrons and funders sweet. Money matters.

If Uefa is finally to acknowledge its mistakes, the poor allocations, the failure to urge intelligence and restraint by the police, then it will come only because the money men and women stamp their feet. So here is the experience of one leading business figure, hugely respected within the European footballing club and international community, who attended the final with 100-plus colleagues and corporate clients who all had tickets. He’s a neutral, a supporter of neither club, but a passionate fan of football, and his clients pour many millions into the sport.

As they did at Euro 2016 in Marseilles, the French police tear-gassed English fans with little restraint on Saturday

As they did at Euro 2016 in Marseilles, the French police tear-gassed English fans with little restraint on Saturday

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He speaks of French methods revealing “a mentality in which spectators were regarded as a mob to be bent and beaten into a pre-ordained order rather than customers to be accommodated, respected and protected”. No wonder the corporate classes are asking strong questions of Uefa.

His experience tallies with those of the Liverpool fans now rightly railing at Uefa and the French authorities. Along with his large party, he approached the ground and encountered Liverpool and Real Madrid fans queuing because the police had formed those controversial pinch-points with vans parked diagonally in the underpass 100 metres from the Stade de France. “The effects of this tactic were potentially catastrophic,” he tells me, and will soon tell Uefa. “I was personally crushed on three occasions and in the last of these my feet actually left the floor.”

Fortunately for all involved, and one reason why European football is not conducting an inquest into loss of life today, the forbearance of both sets of supporters was admirable. “The behaviour of the fans around me was exemplary,” he continues. “Encouragement was offered uniformly and in several languages. Great care was shown to discourage surges and help those suffering panic attacks or discomfort.” Consider these words, as Uefa soon must. Surges. Panic attacks. Police action risked a catastrophe in that underpass and beyond. And consider that those poor souls suffering panic attacks may have been of an age that they experienced Hillsborough. The police approach was totally unthinking.

“The patience displayed by fans of both teams was beyond reproach and matched only by the indifference of the police who watched the situation unfold from positions of safety,” the businessman continues. “The final pinch-point took 45 minutes to navigate but probably a lifetime to fully process.” He says some of his clients and colleagues had “even more terrifying experiences”.

This is a man experienced in helping organise football events, let alone attend them, and he was horrified by French incompetence and belligerence.

Many fans who had paid hundreds, if not thousands, of pounds to be in Paris were effectively “kettled” and treated as a “mob to be bent and beaten”

Many fans who had paid hundreds, if not thousands, of pounds to be in Paris were effectively “kettled” and treated as a “mob to be bent and beaten”

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On it went, this journey into the heart of darkness on the edge of Paris. It should have been a path full of excitement, not an assault course. The French sports minister, Amélie Oudéa-Castéra, who has been heaping blame on Liverpool fans, does not appreciate that her people let these visitors down. There were no French organisers to be seen, nobody in charge. There was just the unsmiling, unyielding riot police.

And then there were the poor stewards, whose work was complicated further by the inexplicable decision to close some gates. “I hoped that the difficulties were behind me but there were further issues in accessing the final perimeter where the electronic ticketing system failed,” the businessman adds. “It was not forged tickets but failed systems that created access problems immediately outside the stadium. This narrative of blaming fans has a familiar and deeply unpleasant ring to it.”

So let’s dissect Oudéa-Castéra’s narrative of “30,000 to 40,000 without tickets or with fake tickets”. To suggest that enough people to fill three quarters of Anfield also rocked up, on top of the 75,000, is nonsense, as those of us on the concourse could see. The experience of Liverpool left back Andy Robertson’s friends undermined her claim, as they were accused of having fake tickets — tickets that had come from Liverpool and Uefa. They weren’t fakes. Some were doubtless in circulation but nowhere anywhere Oudéa-Castéra’s estimate.

French abject handling of the situation, risking a tragedy, had started long before any ticket checks, unless police have discovered a way of establishing a ticket’s validity by pepper-spraying a ten-year-old or somebody in a wheelchair long before they have reached the gates. Images of supporters sitting in the stadium aisles indicated some were entering illicitly but also needs placing in the context that some fans couldn’t get to their areas, and also the number of local youths who forced their way in.

The tale spun by Oudéa-Castéra and the interior minister, Gérald Darmanin, is that some Liverpool fans leapt the fence. “I witnessed two such incidents but they were clearly local youths trying their luck,” the businessman insists. “Both were given a truly savage beating for their efforts. This was delivered by three or four policemen and went well beyond what was required to immobilise the individual. In summary, and regrettably, I recognise from personal experience and with no agenda to satisfy, that no part of the official version of events rings true.”

While the French have their maths and methods called into question, Uefa needs to come up with an apology, some answers and a promise and plan to prevent a repeat. “What I witnessed was a failure of ethos, an inability to anticipate difficulties and a rigidity of response when matters took an obviously dangerous turn,” the businessman says. “That serious injury and even deaths were avoided was a matter of luck.” Listen to that, Uefa.

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Now an inquiry is inevitable the French politicians are seeking to control its scope, trying to tilt the focus on the basis of there having been "massive fraud".

 

They need fighting every step of the way.

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32 minutes ago, Strontium said:

 

We've finally found someone the right wing media hate more than Scousers, and it's the French.

Ironically though, every Twitter user with a Union Jack in their profile now thinks the European football governing body and the French authorities are as sincere and trustworthy as Captain Tom.

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25 minutes ago, luxury_scruff said:

No part of official version of events in Paris rings true

May 30 2022, 5.00pm

It’s sad to see a magnificent city that so many of us love now depicted as inhospitable and dangerous. It’s where so many football fans enjoyed a wonderful day basking in the sun and the glow of anticipation for the Champions League final until heading to the Stade de France. Saturday’s subsequent shambles outside the ground was a PR disaster for the French state, which might explain its attempt to shift the blame on to fans in a buck-passing exercise that was instantly derided and disproved.

Innocent Manchester United fans were tear-gassed in Lille in 2010. Chelsea fans were tear-gassed outside Parc des Princes in 2015 and inside in 2016. Now it’s Liverpool fans. And this is the issue, certainly in trying to understand why the CRS laid out the terrain around Stade de France as if expecting a battle.

They tear-gassed rioting England fans in Marseille at France ’98 and Euro 2016 and their view of English football fans seems shaped by that. There is little sophistication in their thinking or reacting. This is in contrast to the more nuanced policing of fans in Germany where they communicate, diffuse tension and don’t go on past reputation but the reality of what’s in front of them. The problem with French police is that they have modern equipment but outdated thinking. They have their agendas and pepper-sprays.

They looked at the river of red flowing up from La Plaine RER station and thought “hooligans” — not that this is largely a well-behaved group, containing some ticketless fans and some with fakes as happens at major events, but mainly decent fans. And look closer and there was a university lecturer popular in English academia, there was the leading executive of a global clothing company, a noted football agent, a partner in a specialist pensions firm, and also those who have served diligently clubs and national associations. This was not a mob as perceived by the police. This was a collection of ages, professions and demographics.

The darkening cloud for posturing French politicians and blinkered Uefa officials is now the backlash from the corporate community, including sponsors, who are preparing letters of complaint after their treatment at the clenched fists of the French police. Uefa may talk about a duty of care to fans but history shows it mainly cares about keeping the patrons and funders sweet. Money matters.

If Uefa is finally to acknowledge its mistakes, the poor allocations, the failure to urge intelligence and restraint by the police, then it will come only because the money men and women stamp their feet. So here is the experience of one leading business figure, hugely respected within the European footballing club and international community, who attended the final with 100-plus colleagues and corporate clients who all had tickets. He’s a neutral, a supporter of neither club, but a passionate fan of football, and his clients pour many millions into the sport.

As they did at Euro 2016 in Marseilles, the French police tear-gassed English fans with little restraint on Saturday

As they did at Euro 2016 in Marseilles, the French police tear-gassed English fans with little restraint on Saturday

GETTY IMAGES

He speaks of French methods revealing “a mentality in which spectators were regarded as a mob to be bent and beaten into a pre-ordained order rather than customers to be accommodated, respected and protected”. No wonder the corporate classes are asking strong questions of Uefa.

His experience tallies with those of the Liverpool fans now rightly railing at Uefa and the French authorities. Along with his large party, he approached the ground and encountered Liverpool and Real Madrid fans queuing because the police had formed those controversial pinch-points with vans parked diagonally in the underpass 100 metres from the Stade de France. “The effects of this tactic were potentially catastrophic,” he tells me, and will soon tell Uefa. “I was personally crushed on three occasions and in the last of these my feet actually left the floor.”

Fortunately for all involved, and one reason why European football is not conducting an inquest into loss of life today, the forbearance of both sets of supporters was admirable. “The behaviour of the fans around me was exemplary,” he continues. “Encouragement was offered uniformly and in several languages. Great care was shown to discourage surges and help those suffering panic attacks or discomfort.” Consider these words, as Uefa soon must. Surges. Panic attacks. Police action risked a catastrophe in that underpass and beyond. And consider that those poor souls suffering panic attacks may have been of an age that they experienced Hillsborough. The police approach was totally unthinking.

“The patience displayed by fans of both teams was beyond reproach and matched only by the indifference of the police who watched the situation unfold from positions of safety,” the businessman continues. “The final pinch-point took 45 minutes to navigate but probably a lifetime to fully process.” He says some of his clients and colleagues had “even more terrifying experiences”.

This is a man experienced in helping organise football events, let alone attend them, and he was horrified by French incompetence and belligerence.

Many fans who had paid hundreds, if not thousands, of pounds to be in Paris were effectively “kettled” and treated as a “mob to be bent and beaten”

Many fans who had paid hundreds, if not thousands, of pounds to be in Paris were effectively “kettled” and treated as a “mob to be bent and beaten”

REUTERS

On it went, this journey into the heart of darkness on the edge of Paris. It should have been a path full of excitement, not an assault course. The French sports minister, Amélie Oudéa-Castéra, who has been heaping blame on Liverpool fans, does not appreciate that her people let these visitors down. There were no French organisers to be seen, nobody in charge. There was just the unsmiling, unyielding riot police.

And then there were the poor stewards, whose work was complicated further by the inexplicable decision to close some gates. “I hoped that the difficulties were behind me but there were further issues in accessing the final perimeter where the electronic ticketing system failed,” the businessman adds. “It was not forged tickets but failed systems that created access problems immediately outside the stadium. This narrative of blaming fans has a familiar and deeply unpleasant ring to it.”

So let’s dissect Oudéa-Castéra’s narrative of “30,000 to 40,000 without tickets or with fake tickets”. To suggest that enough people to fill three quarters of Anfield also rocked up, on top of the 75,000, is nonsense, as those of us on the concourse could see. The experience of Liverpool left back Andy Robertson’s friends undermined her claim, as they were accused of having fake tickets — tickets that had come from Liverpool and Uefa. They weren’t fakes. Some were doubtless in circulation but nowhere anywhere Oudéa-Castéra’s estimate.

French abject handling of the situation, risking a tragedy, had started long before any ticket checks, unless police have discovered a way of establishing a ticket’s validity by pepper-spraying a ten-year-old or somebody in a wheelchair long before they have reached the gates. Images of supporters sitting in the stadium aisles indicated some were entering illicitly but also needs placing in the context that some fans couldn’t get to their areas, and also the number of local youths who forced their way in.

The tale spun by Oudéa-Castéra and the interior minister, Gérald Darmanin, is that some Liverpool fans leapt the fence. “I witnessed two such incidents but they were clearly local youths trying their luck,” the businessman insists. “Both were given a truly savage beating for their efforts. This was delivered by three or four policemen and went well beyond what was required to immobilise the individual. In summary, and regrettably, I recognise from personal experience and with no agenda to satisfy, that no part of the official version of events rings true.”

While the French have their maths and methods called into question, Uefa needs to come up with an apology, some answers and a promise and plan to prevent a repeat. “What I witnessed was a failure of ethos, an inability to anticipate difficulties and a rigidity of response when matters took an obviously dangerous turn,” the businessman says. “That serious injury and even deaths were avoided was a matter of luck.” Listen to that, Uefa.

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Paris chaos: Liverpool call for French to apologise

Club hits back after French authorities blame ‘40,000 fans with fake tickets’, while Uefa opens investigation into shambolic security at final

May 29 2022, 3.50pm

Amélie Oudéa-Castéra, France’s new sports minister, criticised a lack of supervision from Anfield officials and said fans had been “out in the wild”, while the French interior minister, Gérald Darmanin, claimed seven of out ten Liverpool fans arriving at the Stade de France had fake tickets and said there were 40,000 counterfeit tickets in total.

Uefa on Monday night announced that it had commissioned an independent report into the events surrounding Saturday’s final with Real Madrid in Paris, which had to be delayed by 36 minutes after thousands of Liverpool fans were unable to gain access to the stadium and heavy-handed policing resulted in them being tear-gassed.

Liverpool had written to European football’s governing body earlier in the day to call for an impartial review and welcomed that being undertaken, although they believe that the continued accusations from the authorities may undermine the pursuit of the facts.

Werner said he was writing in “utter disbelief” at the French comments and his letter continued: “The events that occurred in and around the Stade de France on Saturday night at the Uefa Champions League final were not only incredibly dangerous for all who attended, but raised serious questions about the organisation and operation of the event.

“This should be the focus of all interested parties today rather than pursuing a blame-game strategy via press conference. I have received countless emails from Liverpool supporters who were frightened to death and subject to police harassment, pepper spray and tear gas.

Oudýa-Castýra claimed that Liverpool had let their fans downOudýa-Castýra claimed that Liverpool had let their fans down

Oudýa-Castýra claimed that Liverpool had let their fans down

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“Moreover, the situation was no better at the end of the evening than at the beginning, with many fans robbed and attacked by gangs. It was clear that fans were forced to go through a gauntlet, spending more than two hours in queues.

“One person said they were ‘trapped against the gates, nobody was moving, and nobody on the other side of the gates was communicating at all’. These fans were treated like cattle. On behalf of all the fans who experienced this nightmare I demand an apology from you and an assurance that the French authorities and Uefa will allow an independent and transparent investigation to proceed.”

The French government organised a meeting yesterday morning with Uefa, but Liverpool were surprised that neither they nor representatives from fans’ groups were asked to attend.

Oudéa-Castéra then claimed Liverpool had let their fans down from an organisational point of view, compared with Real Madrid, while Darmanin said the chaos at the ground resulted from “a massive, industrial and organised fraud in counterfeits”.

Police used tear gas outside the stadium prior to the Champions League final

Jürgen Klopp, the Liverpool manager, was also criticised, having said fans could travel without tickets because Paris was “big enough”.

Uefa said its independent report will be led by Dr Tiago Brandão Rodrigues, who is a member of the Portuguese parliament, and will be made public.

Oudéa-Castéra has also commissioned a report to look into the trouble, asking Michael Cadot, the inter-ministerial delegate for large sports events, to produce the report within ten days.

As the fall-out from the final continued, Liverpool asked supporters who attended the game to complete a feedback form, which can be accessed on the club website, to support the investigation.

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“The videos and the photographs tell a consistent story: [of] the unacceptable treatment of men, women and children,” Billy Hogan, the Liverpool chief executive, said. “Also, to say our fans didn’t turn up on time is crazy. We all saw it with our own eyes; we were outside the ground, on the ground, in those crowds and from everything I saw, our fans arrived early and they were queuing as directed by authorities.

“I would say that all politicians and agencies involved in this event need to wait until a full and independent investigation is concluded before attempting to shift blame.”

Meanwhile, it has emerged Liverpool turned down the option of using digital tickets for the final in the belief that it would be open to abuse.

Liverpool thought that the QR codes on offer would add another layer of complexity to the event and also constituted a security risk as they could be easily forwarded on to other people.

Real Madrid chose to take up the digital option for their supporters.

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1 hour ago, Carra_is_legend said:

Just read Hogan's interview in official site. Very calm, composed and measured but at the same time calling the French as liars. I liked the legal aspect he mentioned. I sincerely hope the club takes them to the court.

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39 minutes ago, luxury_scruff said:

That's one of the good things about having American owners. They won't hesitate to go to court when this crap happens:

 

The Liverpool chairman Tom Werner has written to the French government to demand an apology after the French authorities blamed the club and their supporters for the security failures at the Champions League final.

Amélie Oudéa-Castéra, France’s new sports minister, criticised a lack of supervision from Anfield officials and said fans had been “out in the wild”, while the French interior minister, Gérald Darmanin, claimed seven of out ten Liverpool fans arriving at the Stade de France had fake tickets and said there were 40,000 counterfeit tickets in total.

In a strongly-worded missive, Werner took Oudéa-Castéra to task and said the comments were “irresponsible, unprofessional and wholly disrespectful to the thousands of fans harmed physically and emotionally” at Saturday’s showpiece event, which had been allowed to descend into “one of the worst security collapses in recent memory”.

 

Uefa on Monday night announced that it had commissioned an independent report into the events surrounding Saturday’s final with Real Madrid in Paris, which had to be delayed by 36 minutes after thousands of Liverpool fans were unable to gain access to the stadium and heavy-handed policing resulted in them being tear-gassed.

Liverpool had written to European football’s governing body earlier in the day to call for an impartial review and welcomed that being undertaken, although they believe that the continued accusations from the authorities may undermine the pursuit of the facts.

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Werner said he was writing in “utter disbelief” at the French comments and his letter continued: “The events that occurred in and around the Stade de France on Saturday night at the Uefa Champions League final were not only incredibly dangerous for all who attended, but raised serious questions about the organisation and operation of the event.

“This should be the focus of all interested parties today rather than pursuing a blame-game strategy via press conference. I have received countless emails from Liverpool supporters who were frightened to death and subject to police harassment, pepper spray and tear gas.

Oudýa-Castýra claimed that Liverpool had let their fans down
Oudýa-Castýra claimed that Liverpool had let their fans down
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“Moreover, the situation was no better at the end of the evening than at the beginning, with many fans robbed and attacked by gangs. It was clear that fans were forced to go through a gauntlet, spending more than two hours in queues.

“One person said they were ‘trapped against the gates, nobody was moving, and nobody on the other side of the gates was communicating at all’. These fans were treated like cattle. On behalf of all the fans who experienced this nightmare I demand an apology from you and an assurance that the French authorities and Uefa will allow an independent and transparent investigation to proceed.”

 

 
 

The French government organised a meeting yesterday morning with Uefa, but Liverpool were surprised that neither they nor representatives from fans’ groups were asked to attend.

Oudéa-Castéra then claimed Liverpool had let their fans down from an organisational point of view, compared with Real Madrid, while Darmanin said the chaos at the ground resulted from “a massive, industrial and organised fraud in counterfeits”.

 
 
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Police used tear gas outside the stadium prior to the Champions League final

Jürgen Klopp, the Liverpool manager, was also criticised, having said fans could travel without tickets because Paris was “big enough”.

Uefa said its independent report will be led by Dr Tiago Brandão Rodrigues, who is a member of the Portuguese parliament, and will be made public.

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Oudéa-Castéra has also commissioned a report to look into the trouble, asking Michael Cadot, the inter-ministerial delegate for large sports events, to produce the report within ten days.

As the fall-out from the final continued, Liverpool asked supporters who attended the game to complete a feedback form, which can be accessed on the club website, to support the investigation.

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“The videos and the photographs tell a consistent story: [of] the unacceptable treatment of men, women and children,” Billy Hogan, the Liverpool chief executive, said. “Also, to say our fans didn’t turn up on time is crazy. We all saw it with our own eyes; we were outside the ground, on the ground, in those crowds and from everything I saw, our fans arrived early and they were queuing as directed by authorities.

“I would say that all politicians and agencies involved in this event need to wait until a full and independent investigation is concluded before attempting to shift blame.”

Meanwhile, it has emerged Liverpool turned down the option of using digital tickets for the final in the belief that it would be open to abuse.

Liverpool thought that the QR codes on offer would add another layer of complexity to the event and also constituted a security risk as they could be easily forwarded on to other people.

Real Madrid chose to take up the digital option for their supporters.

 

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