The best Breaking Bad/Better Call Saul villain?

[Elite]

You could argue a few of the protagonists are villains themselves but I've stuck to the shows antagonists.

[Elite]

I've gone for Todd as he was the most unsettling. Complete sociopath.

[Bjornebye]

The old dude in the wheelchair off scarface

[Numero Veinticinco]

Honestly, there's just a load of them that are all in with a shout. It's probably Gus Fring, he was next level, but I went with Lalo. He's a proper psycho. I'm more scared of him than the likes of Gus, because Gus is a rational businessman who is cut throat when you need him to be, but Lalo will kill you as soon as look at you. 

[Elite]

35 minutes ago, Numero Veinticinco said:

Honestly, there's just a load of them that are all in with a shout. It's probably Gus Fring, he was next level, but I went with Lalo. He's a proper psycho. I'm more scared of him than the likes of Gus, because Gus is a rational businessman who is cut throat when you need him to be, but Lalo will kill you as soon as look at you. 

I was going to vote for Gus as he's brilliant but I think the fact that we are exposed to him constantly has caused me to get a bit of Stockholm syndrome with him.

 

Lalo is great but almost a bit cartoony at times for me, reminds me of Jim Carrey.

 

Great fictional crime family the Salamancas though.

[TD_LFC]

Walter Whi.....

1 hour ago, Elite said:

You could argue a few of the protagonists are villains themselves but I've stuck to the shows antagonists.

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[Numero Veinticinco]

8 minutes ago, Elite said:

Lalo is great but almost a bit cartoony at times for me, reminds me of Jim Carrey.

Interesting take, mate. I actually don't see him that way, I see him as pretty much a perfect, understated psychopath/sociopath. He manipulates and kills when needed without any sort of remorse, but is clever as fuck. 

[Section_31]

Fring is one of the top 10 villains in TV/film history for my money.

[Captain Howdy]

Don Eladio. Incredibly intimidating 

[Numero Veinticinco]

1 minute ago, Captain Howdy said:

Don Eladio. Incredibly intimidating 

[Captain Howdy]

Clicked other by mistake.

[Captain Howdy]

Just now, Numero Veinticinco said:

Even when he’s dead he gives me the shits 

[Captain Howdy]

19 minutes ago, Numero Veinticinco said:

Interesting take, mate. I actually don't see him that way, I see him as pretty much a perfect, understated psychopath/sociopath. He manipulates and kills when needed without any sort of remorse, but is clever as fuck. 

Same. Great character 

[polymerpunkah]

The answer for me is Gus--because he's been ever-present, but also because he's been given more depth, a compelling back-story etc. 

 

But I think Lalo and Gus are two peas in a pod--both willing to do whatever is necessary, without any moral consideration, to get the job done. Whatever that job might be.

 

It's just that Gus has a public image and a large organization to protect (ignoring the question of where the Salamanca organization we saw earlier in BCS went) so he has to go about his business much more carefully, and subtly.

 

Recall Gus with the box-cutter, vs Lalo in the last episode. 

 

 

 

[clockspeed]

 

Enough said 

[Preston Red]

Gus Frings was the one for me.

 

Totally unsettling and stone-faced, until he had half of it blown off.

[Elite]

2 minutes ago, Preston Red said:

Gus Frings was the one for me.

 

Totally unsettling and stone-faced, until he had half of it blown off.

I love the way his face immediately changes once he's out of public view. From jovial, nice guy to stone-faced killer.

[Preston Red]

42 minutes ago, Elite said:

I love the way his face immediately changes once he's out of public view. From jovial, nice guy to stone-faced killer.

Superb character. Hector, I found amusing, especially when he shits himself in the chair as a penultimate "Fuck You!" to Gus.