Sunak's Budget Speech

[A Red]

32 minutes ago, Bjornebye said:

I really don’t. I know all in need to know. Once my suspicions were confirmed that was enough for me to see you for what you are. 
 

Oh and I did answer your question, the answer just didn’t suit you. 

I agree with you about taxing inheritance and unearned income. I also don't trust the government not to line their pockets. I bet you feel grubby now.

 

I just didn't realise that when I was arguing with aot on the subject that he was the tory and I was the socialist.

[Bjornebye]

2 minutes ago, A Red said:

I agree with you about taxing inheritance and unearned income. I also don't trust the government not to line their pockets. I bet you feel grubby now.

 

I just didn't realise that when I was arguing with aot on the subject that he was the tory and I was the socialist.

 

 

[Karl_b]

1 hour ago, Bjornebye said:

I have called SD a Tory plenty of times for many reasons. Him voting for that horrible Lib Dem/Tory coalition being the main reason. Do I believe he’s a full blown Conservative voter who would put a cross in their sole slot on a ballot paper? Nah. He’s better than that. 
 

Anyway, you didn’t answer the question. Why did you vote Tory? 

I voted for that "Lib Dem/Tory coalition" because I genuinely believed that voting Lib Dem best served my interests at the time. Am I a Tory now?

[Gnasher]

1 hour ago, A Red said:

You still haven't answered. Is he a tory for wanting to tax unearned income, you said he was, have you changed your mind?

 

To answer yours, the same reason I've ever voted for anyone, the least worst.

 

Just a little hint for you, I couldn't give a flying fuck if you think I'm a tory or not, as someone else stated recently, you only know because I said so. If it bothered me I wouldn't have said it. Politics isn't tribal to me, I'm not a supporter just a voter for whatever suits me best or least worst at the time.

https://images.app.goo.gl/wHFL55UdS3LMAMH56

 

The world's your lobster.

[Bjornebye]

5 minutes ago, Karl_b said:

I voted for that "Lib Dem/Tory coalition" because I genuinely believed that voting Lib Dem best served my interests at the time. Am I a Tory now?

I have called SD a Tory plenty of times for many reasons. Him voting for that horrible Lib Dem/Tory coalition being the main reason. Do I believe he’s a full blown Conservative voter who would put a cross in their sole slot on a ballot paper? Nah.

 

Only you know if you're a tory or not, from your posts that I remember I wouldn't say so. But thanks for voting for that coalition. The working class appreciate it. 

[Gnasher]

3 hours ago, Gnasher said:

 

I saw the report where the bbc interviewers last question to Sunak was what type of bread did he like, Sunak and BBC interveiwer then had chuckle because Rishi likes healthy brown bread but his wife prefers white which makes it mors difficult at meal times to get the children to eat healthy, cut to bbc sofa where sports commentator Mike Collins and the other two presenters smile that the chancellor has the same problems at breakfast time as the rest of us when it comes to the problem of getting children to ear more healthily.

 

I uses to think Elvis was mad but I kind of understand his thinking towards the latter part of his life where he sit in front of a multiple TV screens off his head on prescription drugs and if something annoyed him on one of the tv he'd pull out a loaded Colt 45 and blast the set full of holes.

Back to the important stuff.

 

 

Sometimes the brown stuff with seeds in apparently, how they chuckled at the BBC.

[A Red]

Not sure if Stig thinks you're a tory? Worried that he might? Let him confirm it one way or another, just ask away.

 

NB Stig might not necessarily understand the difference between a tory and socialist policy so beware he might call you a tory just to be sure.

[Bjornebye]

1 minute ago, A Red said:

Not sure if Stig thinks you're a tory? Worried that he might? Let him confirm it one way or another, just ask away.

 

NB Stig might not necessarily understand the difference between a tory and socialist policy so beware he might call you a tory just to be sure.

Tory. 

[Bjornebye]

 

 

 

 

 

[Strontium]

1 hour ago, Babb'sBurstNad said:

Could've just been a bit of a brain fart moment. I went to the self checkout once and put the basket on the wrong side, and subsequently kept lifting a pasty in and out of the basket area for what seemed like an eternity.

 

Might save the rest of these cracking anecdotes for my autobiography.

 

You bought a pasty in the supermarket? You must have been hungry.

[A Red]

4 minutes ago, Bjornebye said:

Tory. 

I'll translate

 

Look at the big bad tory, lads he's a tory, we don't like them do we? I don't, I think they're cunts! Lads please like me, I'm just like you, a socialist. I care! Lads? .............Lads???

[Pidge]

Inheritance tax is a really interesting one, and even with the usual mud-slinging it's been interesting seeing all the different perspectives. 

 

Personally I feel the threshold is fairly reasonable as it stands. The exact threshold mainly revolves around the value of a single property. There are many parts of the country where it is perfectly feasible that a working class family home and DB pension payout would exceed the threshold, meaning that tax needs to be paid. Lowering the threshold would see more people having to sell family homes and, in rural areas in particular, incentivises the breakup of communities. 

 

The bigger issue for me is the extent to which the remaining threshold can be transferred to a spouse. A well-arranged estate can have a threshold of £1m, which is clearly not realistic for most people.

 

Regardless, I would like to see taxes formally redistributed from higher house value areas to lower, to reduce the likelihood of families being expected to exhaust their equity to fund care, based on a post code lottery.

 

edit: also, I voted LD in 2010, haven't really forgiven them since, mind...

[Boss]

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[Bjornebye]

3 minutes ago, A Red said:

I'll translate

 

Look at the big bad tory, lads he's a tory, we don't like them do we? I don't, I think they're cunts! Lads please like me, I'm just like you, a socialist. I care! Lads? .............Lads???

Nope. I dislike this tory government and I think anyone who voted them in has to take responsibility for the state of this country and this greedy self-serving party laughing in our faces while they take the piss out of us every single day. I want a fair and equal share of taxes, I want life to be a fun and exciting adventure for everyone without the stress, anxiety, hunger, worry, doubt, burdens ( I could go on) forced upon to decent working people who only want the best for themselves, their loved ones and others. 

 

I know you're still trying really hard to make a cunt out of me but 2 things: 1. I can more than do that for myself and 2. You will always be a bigger cunt. 

[Bjornebye]

1 minute ago, Boss said:

 

That phrase "unearned income" is pure Orwellian doublethink. It's been earned by the person who's already paid taxes on it. They OWN that asset. They can therefore do with it as they please.

 

Often times it's left to their sons or daughters after they've spent years looking after them; through dementia, through incontinence and all the unspoken realities of growing old. What have the government done to earn that money? 

 

Where does all this money go, by the way? Because it isn't going to local counsels, hospitals or schools because they've ALL had their funding cut. Oh, that's right, it's going to a government contract for a shipping company that has no ships. An MP is working as an "advisor", earning £250,000 a year for 30 minutes work per month. It's all falling into place now. 

 

"Name of the game: move the money from your client's pocket into your pocket."

"Right, but if you can make your clients money at the same time then it's advantageous for everyone, correct?"

"No!"

 

That's why they call you Boss. 

[A Red]

9 minutes ago, Boss said:

 

That phrase "unearned income" is pure Orwellian doublethink. It's been earned by the person who's already paid taxes on it. They OWN that asset. They can therefore do with it as they please.

 

Often times it's left to their sons or daughters after they've spent years looking after them; through dementia, through incontinence and all the unspoken realities of growing old. What have the government done to earn that money? 

 

Where does all this money go, by the way? Because it isn't going to local counsels, hospitals or schools because they've ALL had their funding cut. Oh, that's right, it's going to a government contract for a shipping company that has no ships. An MP is working as an "advisor", earning £250,000 a year for 30 minutes work per month. It's all falling into place now. 

 

"Name of the game: move the money from your client's pocket into your pocket."

"Right, but if you can make your clients money at the same time then it's advantageous for everyone, correct?"

"No!"

Yep, agree with you.

[A Red]

9 minutes ago, Bjornebye said:

Nope. I dislike this tory government and I think anyone who voted them in has to take responsibility for the state of this country and this greedy self-serving party laughing in our faces while they take the piss out of us every single day. I want a fair and equal share of taxes, I want life to be a fun and exciting adventure for everyone without the stress, anxiety, hunger, worry, doubt, burdens ( I could go on) forced upon to decent working people who only want the best for themselves, their loved ones and others. 

 

I know you're still trying really hard to make a cunt out of me but 2 things: 1. I can more than do that for myself and 2. You will always be a bigger cunt. 

Lovely flowery stuff that. And yeah, i'll always be a bigger cunt

[Bjornebye]

Just now, A Red said:

Lovely flowery stuff that. And yeah, i'll always be a bigger cunt

Thanks, you should try some. 

[Bjornebye]

28 minutes ago, Bjornebye said:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Boss]

4 minutes ago, A Red said:

Yep, agree with you.

I'm going to remove that. I'm not going to discuss politics anymore. I'll just stick to the music threads instead.

[Bjornebye]

9 minutes ago, Boss said:

I'm going to remove that. I'm not going to discuss politics anymore. I'll just stick to the music threads instead.

Shame, it was a brilliant post. 

[Captain Turdseye]

12 minutes ago, Boss said:

I'm going to remove that. I'm not going to discuss politics anymore. I'll just stick to the music threads instead.

Haha. You have as well. 
 

Pity it got quoted, man. It’s gonna be there forever. Your children are gonna see it. And then your children’s children after them.  

[AngryOfTuebrook]

2 hours ago, Babb'sBurstNad said:

Could've just been a bit of a brain fart moment. I went to the self checkout once and put the basket on the wrong side, and subsequently kept lifting a pasty in and out of the basket area for what seemed like an eternity.

 

Might save the rest of these cracking anecdotes for my autobiography.

I've been known to present my bank card instead of my travel pass to the ticket machine on the bus, so I'm quite forgiving of brainfarts.

[Bjornebye]

3 minutes ago, AngryOfTuebrook said:

I've been known to present my bank card instead of my bus pass to the ticket machine on the bus, so I'm quite forgiving of brainfarts.

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[AngryOfTuebrook]

12 hours ago, Bjornebye said:

What's the point in owning anything ???!!!!! Fucking tories and tory mentality ruining life for everyone. 

The point is having somewhere to live when you're alive.

 

I've not been through this whole thread, so I have no idea how you arrived at the conclusion that the progressive taxation of unearned wealth is a "Tory mentality" but it really isn't - it is literally the opposite. And how does taxing inherited wealth over £350,000 (or whatever) "ruin life for everyone"?