Summer 2022 Transfer Thread

[TD_LFC]

17 minutes ago, Barrington Womble said:

This is the law as far as I know and by books, I think it's professional, which he hasn't been....

 

What constitutes a 'home grown' player? 'Home Grown' means that a player must have been on the books of a club affiliated with the Football Association (England's governing body) for at least three years before they turn 21 – it does not mean that they have to be English.

And it's club not clubs for some competitions.

 

Elliot didn't qualify for the CL (I think) because we let him go to Blackburn on loan so he hadn't been at the same club.

[Megadrive Man]

7 minutes ago, Lee909 said:

 

 

Doesn't matter when they are English, hence Sancho being classed as Home grown last year e en though he has been in Germany since he was 17. 

Where have you seen that out of interest?

[Lee909]

1 minute ago, MegadriveMan said:

Where have you seen that out of interest?

 

Official premier league website. Squad pages

[Barrington Womble]

10 minutes ago, Lee909 said:

 

 

Doesn't matter when they are English, hence Sancho being classed as Home grown last year e en though he has been in Germany since he was 17. 

I didn't know that. The only reason I first looked at the rule was because I read he wouldn't class as homegrown in a transfer article. The rule was initially implemented as "home grown" as under EU law we were not able to discriminate which country a person is from within the EU for employment reasons. So nationality never played a part, it was purely where you played your football. Maybe this has changed post Brexit. 

[Lee909]

As far as I know English players are always home grown. This new 'trained' rule just allowed big clubs to carry on signing young players. 

[TD_LFC]

18 minutes ago, Lee909 said:

 

 

Doesn't matter when they are English, hence Sancho being classed as Home grown last year e en though he has been in Germany since he was 17. 

He was at Watford and Man City prior to that.

[Colonel Bumcunt]

 

 

[TD_LFC]

1 minute ago, Colonel Bumcunt said:

 

 

Never heard of him.

[johnsusername]

1 hour ago, 3 Stacks said:

It was defo 1 in 1 out. Just that it was a returning loan instead of a signing. But it's the same thing. One guy leaves, another who wasn't there comes in.

 

[Lee909]

4 minutes ago, TD_LFC said:

He was at Watford and Man City prior to that.

 

As a youth player who hadn't signed a pro contract. But the same argument could be made for bellingham

[Trojan1892]

1 hour ago, Lee909 said:

Michael Olise is worth watching. Though probably difficult to get as he only signed for Palace last year

Klopp is definitely watching him, I remember when City played Palace and they asked him about the game he said something along the lines of we watched it for 60 mins and didn’t need to watch the rest and Olise was subbed after an hour….

[Megadrive Man]

I can't see anything to suggest that there's a different rule for English players though?

 

I think the most likely explanation is that it includes youth level football, so both Bellingham and Sancho would qualify.

 

I'm pretty sure if an English born player didn't spend any of their youth development in England that that they wouldn't qualify though. For instance if Erling Haaland had decided to play for England (he was born in Leeds) I don't think he would count as homegrown.

 

The whole rule is a bit of a farce.

[3 Stacks]

Not sure why we wouldn't have bought Olise from QPR.

[TD_LFC]

2 minutes ago, MegadriveMan said:

 

I'm pretty sure if an English born player didn't spend any of their youth development in England that that they wouldn't qualify though. For instance if Erling Haaland had decided to play for England (he was born in Leeds) I don't think he would count as homegrown.

 

Eric Dier didn't because he spent his youth in portugal.

[Megadrive Man]

That proves it must be based on the youth team football then, as Dier was born in England, played for the English national team, but didn't actually play in England until he was twenty.

 

The whole thing is stupid and needs an overhaul.

[El Dangerous]

21 minutes ago, 3 Stacks said:

Not sure why we wouldn't have bought Olise from QPR.

Because he played for Reading.

[3 Stacks]

25 minutes ago, El Dangerous said:

Because he played for Reading.

True. That was Eze at QPR.

[3 Stacks]

Welcome.

 

 

[aRdja]

9 minutes ago, 3 Stacks said:

Welcome.

 

 

Looks very skilful and I like that he’s a right sided attacker, but his numbers on the other hand aren’t great. From what I’ve read he’s a snide, not sure that’s something we’d want at the club especially around our younger players like Elliott, Gordon and Carvalho. 

 

 

[Lee909]

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[Torvald Utne]

56 minutes ago, aRdja said:

Looks very skilful and I like that he’s a right sided attacker, but his numbers on the other hand aren’t great. From what I’ve read he’s a snide, not sure that’s something we’d want at the club especially around our younger players like Elliott, Gordon and Carvalho. 

 

 

Doesn't seem to possess a right foot, hate watching players trying to contort their body to avoid using the weaker foot.

[Lee909]

17 minutes ago, fungus said:

Doesn't seem to possess a right foot, hate watching players trying to contort their body to avoid using the weaker foot.

 

It's ridiculous 

Even at the levels I played at my Dad was on at me so much and forced me to use my left foot to the point I played on the left as I was able to use it to a similar level. How the fuck these lads makes pro when the can't use their weaker foot is amazing 

[Trojan1892]

I think we’ll be seeing quite a bit more of  Kaide Gordon this season especially now with 5 subs.

[Jose Jones]

8 hours ago, Lee909 said:

Michael Olise is worth watching. Though probably difficult to get as he only signed for Palace last year

Yeah he looks decent. Only scored 2 goals in the league though so obviously could do with a bit more end product.

[Chairman Meow]

6 hours ago, fungus said:

Doesn't seem to possess a right foot, hate watching players trying to contort their body to avoid using the weaker foot.

 

5 hours ago, Lee909 said:

 

It's ridiculous 

Even at the levels I played at my Dad was on at me so much and forced me to use my left foot to the point I played on the left as I was able to use it to a similar level. How the fuck these lads makes pro when the can't use their weaker foot is amazing 

 

It's something I've wondered about quite a lot over the last few years.

 

If you watch old videos of players like Rush and quite a few others it's actually quite hard to definitively say they have a stronger foot and if you read the Geoff Twentyman one of the keys things Liverpool always looked at was being able to "go both ways" <insert Kenneth Williams "oooh" gif here>. Even someone like John Barnes who I think most would think of as left footed, if you watch any compilations of his goals he was absolutely brilliant with his right as well. 

 

Right now I can't think of any player off the top of my head who seems to be genuinely two footed, or at the very least so good with both feet that they don't seem to have a really dominant foot. 

 

Seems to be something which has totally left the game.