Summer 2022 Transfer Thread

[Boss]

I don't know whether Antony is physically fast enough to play that position for us. He seems to arse about with little flicks and tricks when our forwards are just ruthlessly efficient and direct. Even Firmino - who's obviously very skilful doesn't do skills for the sake of it. He seems the opposite of what we'd go for. 

[Freddo]

1 hour ago, Colonel Bumcunt said:

Has Klopp ever signed a twat for us?

Not that I recall and I highly doubt we sign this one 

[Scott_M]

3 hours ago, Boss said:

In other news, Barca have tabled their first offer for Raphinha. Maybe we've looked at him and Antony and decided to go for the latter. 

If Leeds stay up, Raphinha’s release clause is c.£60m.

 

If Leeds go down, Raphinha’s release clause is c.£25m.

 

If Antony is c.£33m, then I can see why we’ve potentially prioritised him. I bet we’d shift Leeds went down.

 

Dunno where Barca are getting c.£60m from, they can’t even afford Adama Traore.

[cloggypop]

He's fast like. 

 

Suarez was a bit of a twat at Ajax as well. 

[Scott_M]

2 minutes ago, cloggypop said:

He's fast like. 

 

Suarez was a bit of a twat at Ajax as well. 

It’s not a problem when they are our twat!

[Lee909]

12 minutes ago, cloggypop said:

He's fast like. 

 

Suarez was a bit of a twat at Ajax as well. 

Signed under the old regime and Commoli though wasn't he

[3 Stacks]

1 hour ago, TD_LFC said:

 

https://ajaxanalysis.com/analysis/antony-2021-22-ajax-stats

 

 

and from earlier in the season (November time)

 

Cool, thanks for that. Would have to compare it to others and our own forwards. 

[m0e]

21 hours ago, 3 Stacks said:

Cool, thanks for that. Would have to compare it to others and our own forwards. 

I'm waiting....

[3 Stacks]

5 minutes ago, m0e said:

I'm waiting....

Well, that's the thing; so TD found that for Antony and then also, I've seen @Ne Moe Imya post some shot location stats before, but I don't know if there's somewhere you could see that for every player. Be nice if there was, but I doubt it. Would be a nice thing to see because I imagine it's one of the most valuable insights out there to determine the quality of attacking players.

[No2]

On 24/03/2022 at 21:43, TD_LFC said:

 

https://ajaxanalysis.com/analysis/antony-2021-22-ajax-stats

 

and from earlier in the season (November time)

 

75 shots, 65 off target, most of them from inside the box. He's shite, I'm out.

[TD_LFC]

@3 Stacks No pictures but I've set up a comparison on FBRef with our other wide forwards to see how he compares (and thrown Moussa Diaby in as well). Looks like the Eredivisie isn't fully recorded though.

 

(sorry the tiny links aren't working)

 

https://fbref.com/en/stathead/player_comparison.cgi?request=1&sum=0&comp_type=by_type&dom_lg=1&spec_comps=big_5&player_id1=99127249&p1yrfrom=2021-2022&player_id2=e342ad68&p2yrfrom=2021-2022&player_id3=4a1a9578&p3yrfrom=2021-2022&player_id4=c691bfe2&p4yrfrom=2021-2022&player_id5=178ae8f8&p5yrfrom=2021-2022&player_id6=aeed5c06&p6yrfrom=2021-2022

 

Here's one with Coady Gakpo and Antony

 

https://fbref.com/en/stathead/player_comparison.cgi?request=1&sum=0&comp_type=by_type&dom_lg=1&spec_comps=big_5&player_id1=99127249&p1yrfrom=2021-2022&player_id2=e342ad68&p2yrfrom=2021-2022&player_id3=4a1a9578&p3yrfrom=2021-2022&player_id4=c691bfe2&p4yrfrom=2021-2022&player_id5=178ae8f8&p5yrfrom=2021-2022&player_id6=1971591f&p6yrfrom=2021-2022

 

 

 

[3 Stacks]

17 minutes ago, TD_LFC said:

@3 Stacks No pictures but I've set up a comparison on FBRef with our other wide forwards to see how he compares (and thrown Moussa Diaby in as well). Looks like the Eredivisie isn't fully recorded though.

 

(sorry the tiny links aren't working)

 

https://fbref.com/en/stathead/player_comparison.cgi?request=1&sum=0&comp_type=by_type&dom_lg=1&spec_comps=big_5&player_id1=99127249&p1yrfrom=2021-2022&player_id2=e342ad68&p2yrfrom=2021-2022&player_id3=4a1a9578&p3yrfrom=2021-2022&player_id4=c691bfe2&p4yrfrom=2021-2022&player_id5=178ae8f8&p5yrfrom=2021-2022&player_id6=aeed5c06&p6yrfrom=2021-2022

 

Here's one with Coady Gakpo and Antony

 

https://fbref.com/en/stathead/player_comparison.cgi?request=1&sum=0&comp_type=by_type&dom_lg=1&spec_comps=big_5&player_id1=99127249&p1yrfrom=2021-2022&player_id2=e342ad68&p2yrfrom=2021-2022&player_id3=4a1a9578&p3yrfrom=2021-2022&player_id4=c691bfe2&p4yrfrom=2021-2022&player_id5=178ae8f8&p5yrfrom=2021-2022&player_id6=1971591f&p6yrfrom=2021-2022

 

 

 

Ah ok, yeah heard of fbref. So they don't have charts, but they have distance of shots, which says a little something. 

 

 

[Lee909]

Linked with Gavi again as he has turned down a deal for a 3rd time. Same with the CB Araújo. Maybe Gomez out and this lad in with Joe wanting away. 

Barcelona linked with Salah. 

If he doesn't sign a new deal I wonder if some sort of deal will be done. I'd love to get Gavi in,looks a right talent. 

 

The Dortmund talks with Adeyemi broke down so could be another to watch. 

 

 

[aRdja]

1 hour ago, Lee909 said:

Linked with Gavi again as he has turned down a deal for a 3rd time. Same with the CB Araújo. Maybe Gomez out and this lad in with Joe wanting away. 

Barcelona linked with Salah. 

If he doesn't sign a new deal I wonder if some sort of deal will be done. I'd love to get Gavi in,looks a right talent. 

 

The Dortmund talks with Adeyemi broke down so could be another to watch. 

 

 

Gavi from the little I’ve seen looks a talent but not sure if he’d be a good fit for the PL.

[Scott_M]

[Scott_M]

11 hours ago, aRdja said:

Gavi from the little I’ve seen looks a talent but not sure if he’d be a good fit for the PL.

Gavi only turned 17 when the season started, give him a bit of time! 

[El Dangerous]

I’d buy him for £50m and immediately loan him out to Stoke with the stipulation he only plays cold windy Tuesday nights.

[VERBAL DIARRHEA]

12 hours ago, aRdja said:

Gavi from the little I’ve seen looks a talent but not sure if he’d be a good fit for the PL.

Fortunately you know fuck all.

[YorkshireRed]

Barcelona seem to be finding money down the back of their sofa so I suspect we’ll see investment in the current squad and some quality additions. 
 

I’d be surprised if we’re getting Gavi out of there anytime soon. 
 

Shame as he’s absolutely one of the best teenagers in world football.
 

We’ll also miss out on the headline; ‘Gavi’s Gone’. 

[dockers_strike]

6 minutes ago, YorkshireRed said:

Barcelona seem to be finding money down the back of their sofa so I suspect we’ll see investment in the current squad and some quality additions. 
 

I’d be surprised if we’re getting Gavi out of there anytime soon. 
 

Shame as he’s absolutely one of the best teenagers in world football.
 

We’ll also miss out on the headline; ‘Gavi’s Gone’. 

They are happy to cash in on these NFTs and other cryptos to fleece their fans to swell the club's coffers.

[Kobayashi Maru]

17 hours ago, aRdja said:

Gavi from the little I’ve seen looks a talent but not sure if he’d be a good fit for the PL.

This gives me the confidence that it's inevitable he will be a star in the EPL

[Scott_M]

 

4 hours ago, YorkshireRed said:

Barcelona seem to be finding money down the back of their sofa so I suspect we’ll see investment in the current squad and some quality additions. 
 

I’d be surprised if we’re getting Gavi out of there anytime soon. 
 

Shame as he’s absolutely one of the best teenagers in world football.
 

We’ll also miss out on the headline; ‘Gavi’s Gone’. 

 

There is a big piece on them in The Athletic today.

 

On the surface it all sounds splendid (transfers, sponsors, winning etc) but the reality apparently quite different.

 

Basically, they've restructured all their debt into a longer loan at lower interest rates. The are planning to re-develop the Nou Camp in the next 5 years and borrowed on the basis that future earnings will be higher.

 

They have saved a massive amount in Messi, Greizmann and Coutinho leaving. The players they signed in January have all signed low wage deals on the promise they'll be rewarded when it comes to extending their contracts. 

 

Even this Spotify deal isn't great for them. Beko & Rakuten combined pay more than Spotify will do. And Spotify get to sponsor the ground ("The Sportify Camp Nou"). In reality, Barca only agreed that deal because Spotify have paid already paid a significant instalment up front. 

 

They seem to have already signed Kessie, Christensen & Azpiliceuta, all on free transfers. As ever, they have some talented youngsters (Gavi, Pedi, Fati etc) but they want to show everybody Barca is back by signing Mbappe or Haaland. 

 

Apparently Xavi has had extensive meetings with Haaland's representatives and the ball is in their court. 

 

Rumours are if they can't get either of them two, Salah is next on the wanted list. 

 

Who knows how it will all pan out but I don't think it's all rosey for them yet. They still seem skint, just they've restructured it.

 

 

[YorkshireRed]

1 minute ago, Scott_M said:

 

 

There is a big piece on them in The Athletic today.

 

On the surface it all sounds splendid (transfers, sponsors, winning etc) but the reality is quite different.

 

Basically, they've restructured all their debt into a loan at lower interest rates. The are planning to re-develop the Nou Camp in the next 5 years and borrowed on the basis that future earnings will be higher.

 

They have saved a massive amount in Messi, Greizmann and Coutinho leaving. The players they signed in January have all signed low wage deals on the promise they'll be rewarded when it comes to extending their contracts. 

 

Even this Spotify deal isn't great for them. Beko & Rakuten combined pay more than Spotify will do. And Spotify get to sponsor the ground ("The Sportify Camp Nou"). In reality, Barca only agreed that deal becuase Spotify have paid already paid a significant instalment up front. 

 

They seem to have already signed Kessie, Christensen & Azpiliceuta, all on free transfers. As ever, they have some talented youngsters (Gavi, Pedi, Fati etc) but they want to show everybody Barca is back by signing Mbappe or Haaland. 

 

Apparently Xavi has had extensive meetings with Haaland's representatives and the ball is in their court. 

 

Rumours are if they can't get either of them two, Salah is next on the wanted list. 

 

Who knows how it will all pan out but I don't think it's all rosey for them yet. They still seem skint, just they've restructured it.

 

 

They’re apparently at the head of the queue (or at least close to it) for Raphinha as well.

[Scott_M]

1 minute ago, YorkshireRed said:

They’re apparently at the head of the queue (or at least close to it) for Raphinha as well.

 

Hmmm, I don't see them spending the £60m rumoured on him. They can barely afford fucking Adama Traore.

 

Spending £60m+ on Haaland or Salah, more or less would be a guaranteed successes. Quite different to a player playing for an average French side, an average English side, never played in the Champions League and has <10 international caps.

 

Maybe if Leeds get relegated and they can get him for £20m, that might be more likely. 

[TheHowieLama]

Raphinha's agent is Deco - he is definitely going to Barca.