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Arsenal (A) - CC Semi Final 2nd (not 1st!) leg, Thu 20th Jan 2022 (7:45pm)


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I honestly dont know what the answer is to these postponements. It's easy to say just make them play but there could be consequences to that.

 

Im not so keen on the possibility of city, united, chelsea and others possibly playing oppos who have to field a rag tag team made up of the walking wounded and some U23s when the same oppos may have players back by the time they come to play us. Or, us forced to play an effective cup side with U23s in it while playing the shite, newcastle or palace etc.

 

Neither am I convinced it would 'even itself out' over the season. Like I said, Im not sure what the answer is.

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7 hours ago, dockers_strike said:

I honestly dont know what the answer is to these postponements. It's easy to say just make them play but there could be consequences to that.

 

Im not so keen on the possibility of city, united, chelsea and others possibly playing oppos who have to field a rag tag team made up of the walking wounded and some U23s when the same oppos may have players back by the time they come to play us. Or, us forced to play an effective cup side with U23s in it while playing the shite, newcastle or palace etc.

 

Neither am I convinced it would 'even itself out' over the season. Like I said, Im not sure what the answer is.

Not easy, as you say, however you can guarantee that the people who run football in this country will make a pig’s ear of it. About the only thing they do well is to negotiate tv contracts.

We’ve already seen winners and losers from this scenario. When we get to play our postponed game v Leeds, they’ll probably have Phillips, Bamford et al back. Should still beat them, but it won’t be 7-0, as when City played a massively under strength Leeds team. As you say, it definitely won’t even itself up. 

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1 minute ago, an tha said:

No Jones or Oxlade in training which likely means Milner starting again...I love Milner but he simply shouldn't be starting games for us anymore, especially with Henderson and Fabinho.

If the Henderson, Milner, Fabinho midfield stats tomorrow then we 're out.  It just doesn't work.

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26 minutes ago, Jairzinho said:

No-one. Play 4-2-3-1 with Bobby as the 10.

Probably a better option than a pedestrian three of Milner/Fabinho/Henderson if Jones isn't available. I think we've used Jota in a deeper role a few times too, but it hasn't really worked. It's more than likely too soon for Elliott to start. 

 

While I don't doubt his quality when he's available, having Thiago as a key player in a very small squad is a real problem for us now. It's unsustainable. 

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38 minutes ago, El Rojo said:

 

Probably a better option than a pedestrian three of Milner/Fabinho/Henderson if Jones isn't available. I think we've used Jota in a deeper role a few times too, but it hasn't really worked. It's more than likely too soon for Elliott to start. 

 

While I don't doubt his quality when he's available, having Thiago as a key player in a very small squad is a real problem for us now. It's unsustainable. 

Yes, the problem is that really we need to first get rid of the players that are injury prone and not very good, then those who simply aren't very good, then finally the injury prone ones.

 

Keita, Chamberlain, and Milner have to go first. Then we decide what to do with Thiago, Jones and Henderson. There's only Elliott and Fabinho that I 100% want to still be at the club in 18/24 months, but I know we have to persevere with several of the others.

 

We've created this situation by doing fuck all in the transfer market. By winning the champions league and the league and then spending nothing. It's only Klopp keeping the owners con going. Even if we had a random top 15 manager in the world, rather than the number 1, we'd be floating around fifth to seventh for a couple of seasons.

 

It's shit. We're wasting a once in a decade/generation opportunity.

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9 minutes ago, dave u said:

We don't need to 'decide what to do with Jones or Henderson'. The others, very much so, but there's no issue with either of them in terms of the next few years.

I like Jones, but know that others aren't sold on him. He's 20, and clearly has plenty of talent. 

 

I think Henderson should be Fabinho's back up. I'm not convinced he'll be good enough in the last year or two of his contract.

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1 hour ago, dave u said:

We don't need to 'decide what to do with Jones or Henderson'. The others, very much so, but there's no issue with either of them in terms of the next few years.

Deffo Jones/Henderson can still be key members of our squad and being English helps with the home grown rules. If we can sell Keita/ chamberlain & milner contract expires and bring in 2 top midfielders to complete with henderson/Thiago for starting places then we’ll be in a much better place midfield wise. 
 

3 out, 2 in would give us

 

2 new mids, Fabinho, Elliott, Thiago, Henderson, Jones 

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We have far far bigger problems in midfield than Jones or Henderson.

 

Keita and Oxlade are far too inconsistent.

Milner is probably done at this level.

Thiago is far too injury prone.

 

Once that is all sorted, let's discuss Henderson and Jones.

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