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Just now, Harry Squatter said:

Went to Uni but stayed at home. Never really liked it as it just felt like another 3 years of college. Luckily I didn't get into any debt. Only other place I had an offer from was Preston, took one look at the place when I visited and that was enough. My brother went to Liverpool Uni but decided to move into a house by Penny Lane with a load of random lads just for the experience of it but ended up in thousands of pounds worth of debt. 

 

College and university were probably the most uneventful years of my life and I was just desperate to start work and earn some money. 

 

Similar, I never wanted to go to uni but seemed to get swept there. There were no jobs around where I lived and college used to mither you to apply to uni with the idea that you didn't have to go but it's good to have the option etc.

 

I went to Liverpool uni and hated it, felt so out of place, it was full of shoulda coulda woulda Oxbridge bums who'd fucked up their A Levels and came to Liverpool through clearing and just wanted to go to Cream every night. I fucked it off and went to JMU, felt much more me and met my current group of mates there. 

 

We were never very studenty though, can count on one hand how many times I went to the union.

 

 

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The student loans company are still chasing me for 20k after 20 years. So another 30 won’t really matter.

I just turned 18 when I went to Uni, youth is definitely wasted on the young. I met the Uni cannabis dealer in freshers week and the rest is history. The biggest thing I regret though was joining the hockey team, even more than the guaranteed shags I ballsed up running through my mind right now. 

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With COVID around absolutely not. Was worth it for the social side of things/shagging around alone. Couldn’t care less about the ‘debt’ and not sure why it factors in much. No obligation to pay it back unless you’re earning well even now. Getting rid of maintenance grants was the real kick in the balls but missed that by a few years.

 

Job prospects wise is barely worth it as others have said unless a proper specialist type degree

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On one hand I made a good decision to make sure I moved out of home and started afresh somewhere new in Preston and had the time of my life. Still good mates with the guys I met there and it's hard to regret on the social side. Unfortunately the studying bit required a lot better work ethic than I was capable of and though I did get a degree it's not something that has benefitted me career wise. If I was that age again I'd save some money and travel, but uni would probably be my second choice after that simply for the social side. Being that age is great so it's hard to know how much of the good memories are simply being young and free. 

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If in terms of going back to my youth and doing it, then I would if I had the hindsight of the drive and work ethic I have now.

 

I, in my actual 20s, was a proper lazy cunt with no direction having come out of school with more E's than a local dealer; just bumbling around in dead end welding jobs and would've fucked it right up.

 

I went through college and night school from 2014 after being rejected for a job due to a lack of a Level 3 qualification and came out of the other side with a BSc in mechanical engineering last June. Now I'm in at the place I've always wanted to be at and I've had doors opened for me via the BSc in quality and materials testing.

 

If you know what you want from it then it's one of the best things you can do, studying for a degree as long as you're advised properly as to where the specific qualification will lead you.

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I didn't have the work ethic or interest at 19 to continue studying. Fucked it off after a year and don't really have any regrets about doing so. I think in many ways people are too young to go to university at 18/19/20. Bar the few people who knew by the age of seven that they wanted to be a vet or whatever, most people just sort of drift towards university. Thinking it's just what you do if you get pretty good grades. It wasn't until my mid 20s when I started actually wanting to study things for myself. Did a few courses at my local college, some stuff with the OU, etc. 

 

I also found the "typical student" fucking tedious. It felt like they were interested in stuff I was when I was about 15. Most of them were also utterly useless at everything outside of whatever their particular subject was. They couldn't use a washing machine, and they had nothing to say about anything.

 

The regrets I do have are about not leaving the UK earlier, and not focusing on trying to start a small business when I was younger.

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My arl fella dropped his own conspiracy theory about Universities and Russian spy’s on me the other day.
 

He feels that the Russians dropped in a load of lecturers in the 50’s and that’s one way how they have managed to influence our culture. Hence all this left leaning ideology in Universities being taught when it should be balanced.
 

I asked him how long he thought this, expecting him to say a week. But no he’s held this feeling since the 70’s.

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1 minute ago, Skidfingers McGonical said:

My arl fella dropped his own conspiracy theory about Universities and Russian spy’s on me the other day.
 

He feels that the Russians dropped in a load of lecturers in the 50’s and that’s one way how they have managed to influence our culture. Hence all this left leaning ideology in Universities being taught when it should be balanced.
 

I asked him how long he thought this, expecting him to say a week. But no he’s held this feeling since the 70’s.

 

Ha my mate was on about that, it's a theory that 'woke' culture is a Russian plot decades in the making. 

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4 minutes ago, Skidfingers McGonical said:

My arl fella dropped his own conspiracy theory about Universities and Russian spy’s on me the other day.
 

He feels that the Russians dropped in a load of lecturers in the 50’s and that’s one way how they have managed to influence our culture. Hence all this left leaning ideology in Universities being taught when it should be balanced.
 

I asked him how long he thought this, expecting him to say a week. But no he’s held this feeling since the 70’s.

 

https://cdn.mises.org/Intellectuals and Socialism_4.pdf

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What is the left leaning being pushed in university's, the idea of equality? Young people have always pushed for this even the old nasty cunts of today were probably free spirited and open when they were young.  I dont know shit about university's or the ideologies being pushed I'm against censorship of opinion so a university banning a speaker just reeks to me, let them speak let what they say be dissected and argued against, banning speech just shows fear. I've no fucking clue what I'm on about its early, carry on.

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Simple answer is no. I had the chance to go to uni but decided not to when weighing up the pros and cons. It has not held me back one bit as I have a really good career with no uni debt, I've also gained numerous qualifications over the years within my field and also other fields, which have all been paid for by my employers. 

 

I'm sure thr answer will be different for other people based on their personal experiences and current situations. For example I knew this one lad who went to uni and studied graphics design. Finished with his degree and could not get a job in the field he had studied and still doesn't now. 

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I'm not sure I would to be honest. I really enjoyed my time at uni, but that was in the late '80s, early '90s. These days, with no grants, tuition fees and the courses and social life being wrecked because of Covid, I'd have to have a really hard think about it.

 

If I did, I certainly wouldn't go on to do a PhD- I kind of stumbled into that because I wanted to carry on the student life rather than any noble academic ideals, and I enjoyed doing it, but it was a bit of a waste of time really. It was in a very niche area and didn't really fit into either industrial or pharmaceutical chemistry so it cut off a lot of avenues that I could have followed with just the degree.

 

Four more years of steadily increasing debt and then the job I went into at the end, you probably didn't need a PhD for anyway, certainly not one as specialised as mine was. There were plenty of people who'd gone in straight from school and worked their way into the position I was in, making money while they did so and then being sponsored to do their degree/ PhD. After a few years, I branched off into IT and it took me the best part of a decade to finally clear all my debts.

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11 hours ago, Section_31 said:

 

Similar, I never wanted to go to uni but seemed to get swept there. There were no jobs around where I lived and college used to mither you to apply to uni with the idea that you didn't have to go but it's good to have the option etc.

 

I went to Liverpool uni and hated it, felt so out of place, it was full of shoulda coulda woulda Oxbridge bums who'd fucked up their A Levels and came to Liverpool through clearing and just wanted to go to Cream every night. I fucked it off and went to JMU, felt much more me and met my current group of mates there. 

 

We were never very studenty though, can count on one hand how many times I went to the union.

 

 

I can remember the first day there, I'd left college in May, the two lads I was friends with there, one went to Newcastle and the other one just got a job. The rest of our course was full of knobheads who used to just sit in the canteen moaning for 3 hours a day. Imagine my horror when virtually all of these twats had been accepted onto my course and turned up on the first day. 

 

I basically never socialised with anyone outside of Uni. Went for the odd drink after lessons with a couple of OK people on my course. I'd had a job straight from school but never got taken on permanently so I went back to college then Uni, think I just missed working and having a bit of money rather than being a bit of a dosser and being stuck with a load of people who were boring and not arsed about being there.

 

I laughed a couple of months ago as the lad who did that stupid "Richy lad" video for Richarlison with his Mrs, kids and dad was on my course. He was a bad bitter Evertonian back then too. 

 

Also there were literally no decent looking girls on my course, one girl who was quite chubby kept harassing me asking me to come back to her house all the time but I just wasn't interested.  It was a bit of a shock as I'd worked in an office full of fit women of different ages previously. 

 

On the last day I was in the student union and the OK lads I was with started talking to some of the other gimps and said we were going out round town to get pissed. They said "oh I thought we would stay here and have a discussion". We just looked at them and laughed then fucked off down the pub.

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10 hours ago, Jairzinho said:

I didn't have the work ethic or interest at 19 to continue studying. Fucked it off after a year and don't really have any regrets about doing so. I think in many ways people are too young to go to university at 18/19/20.

 

Yeah, I think I was too young at 17. If I did it over again I'd probably have a year out first.

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2 minutes ago, stringvest said:

No way would I do it now, if I had to pay for it myself.  Having said that, I encouraged both my kids to do it, and it's cost me a fortune.

 

I've been trying to put my own thoughts down for ages.

 

I fucking loved university, been to several and have only good things to say about study and education, and drinking and shagging obvs.

 

Looking at the fees nowadays I'd think about it more and think about subject choices and pathways etc, or look at some of the modern hybrids. I had a full time job during my first degree and paid my own fees and my post grads we're either subsidised or paid for by employers so I never ran loads of debt up.

 

Mate of mine ran up the best part of 60k on an English degree from a shit university, then anothe 15k for an MA from a great university. We were taliking about it last weekend and even though it'll take him forever to pay of he doesn't regret a thing.

 

But on the point you made about kids I genuinely think I'd be dissapointed if they didn't go as it's not just about the piece of paper at the end, it's a period of growth and adventure that everyone should experience.

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2 minutes ago, Mike D said:

As someone who still has nightmares about getting my school homework in I’d find it too terrifying.

Haha, I know what you mean, but you don't have to worry about that- for a bit anyway until any pinch points for grades. From the first few minutes of our course onwards, the lecturers/ lab techs made it very clear that if you thought you knew what they would teach, they didn't expect to see you. Red rag to a bull...

 

We had a 12 week module in our final year on biochemistry at really inconvenient times (i.e. 9 am on a couple of mornings). I went to about three of the lectures, hoping that I could avoid questions on the finals about it. As it happened, there was a mandatory question based on the course in one paper and I had absolutely no clue about what was asked. I just put 'I can't remember this bit, but here's the mechanism for (whatever I actually knew)'. Aced it. I'm pretty sure my marks for that exam helped me jump two grades after a disastrous second year and got me a PhD offer.

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2 hours ago, Stouffer said:

Our E&I apprentices are on £37k after 3 years and end up with a HNC or HND. If they want to do a BEng then the company will pay for it.

 

No debt and decent pay, that's the route to take and my eldest is already keen to do so.

I would encourage any of my kids to go and seek an opportunity like this. Then once they have the experience, and paid their dues, go out on their own. 
 

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