Migrants

[Rico1304]

 

[Captain Howdy]

1 hour ago, VladimirIlyich said:

Captain Howdy,why the neg? Just out of curiosity. Electing tories and Brexit signify extreme stupidity to me.

Because this constant branding of the electorate as idiots is doing untold damage and is catnip for the Conservatives

[VladimirIlyich]

51 minutes ago, Captain Howdy said:

Because this constant branding of the electorate as idiots is doing untold damage and is catnip for the Conservatives

The proof of the pudding is in the results of the elections and referendum.

[Captain Howdy]

14 minutes ago, VladimirIlyich said:

The proof of the pudding is in the results of the elections and referendum.

Crack on then, that sneering contemptuous attitude is working so well.

[Arniepie]

If you genuinely think boris johnson is doing a bang up job and is doing his very best for working people, you are a fucking moron.

 

There is no sugar coating that.

[Bruce Spanner]

8 minutes ago, Arniepie said:

If you genuinely think boris johnson is doing a bang up job and is doing his very best for working people, you are a fucking moron.

 

There is no sugar coating that.

 

Why would you not when he and a complicit media are telling you he is?

 

Lobsters in a pot.

 

Believing the PM and the media you consume isn't stupidity, you should expect both, in an established liberal democracy, to be telling you the truth, within reason of course.

[Jairzinho]

24 minutes ago, Arniepie said:

If you genuinely think boris johnson is doing a bang up job and is doing his very best for working people, you are a fucking moron.

 

There is no sugar coating that.

Yes, but electorally it would be better not to tell them they are morons. 

[Captain Howdy]

1 hour ago, Jairzinho said:

Yes, but electorally it would be better not to tell them they are morons. 

Exactly 

[Arniepie]

2 hours ago, Jairzinho said:

Yes, but electorally it would be better not to tell them they are morons. 

I'm not sure labour do even though they must be surely tempted. 

[Gnasher]

2 hours ago, Bruce Spanner said:

 

Why would you not when he and a complicit media are telling you he is?

 

Lobsters in a pot.

 

Believing the PM and the media you consume isn't stupidity, you should expect both, in an established liberal democracy, to be telling you the truth, within reason of course.

God help us.

[VladimirIlyich]

3 hours ago, Captain Howdy said:

Crack on then, that sneering contemptuous attitude is working so well.

Like I'm the leader of the opposition and my opinion makes any difference. The British electorate,a good chunk at least,are morons.

[Gnasher]

1 hour ago, Captain Howdy said:

Exactly 

+2.... wait till they see the forthcoming French elections

[Captain Howdy]

46 minutes ago, VladimirIlyich said:

Like I'm the leader of the opposition and my opinion makes any difference. The British electorate,a good chunk at least,are morons.

It’s a narrative, of which you are fully complicit ……”You don’t agree with me therefore you’re racist or thick” 

[AngryOfTuebrook]

6 hours ago, Gnasher said:

Kate Hoey or Jeremy Corbyn would be my guess.

It was the one who would never share a boat with a massive racist like Farridge.

[AngryOfTuebrook]

 

[Captain Howdy]

48 minutes ago, Gnasher said:

+2.... wait till they see the forthcoming French elections

Zemmour? Do……Not…..Like  but he appears popular, I think he’s against Frexit though?

[Arniepie]

52 minutes ago, Captain Howdy said:

It’s a narrative, of which you are fully complicit ……”You don’t agree with me therefore you’re racist or thick” 

Its nothing to do with agreeing with people. 

I'll say it again .

If you think boris Johnson is doing his best so working people in this country have a better life..you.are a fucking idiot.

[Captain Howdy]

6 minutes ago, Arniepie said:

Its nothing to do with agreeing with people. 

I'll say it again .

If you think boris Johnson is doing his best so working people in this country have a better life..you.are a fucking idiot.

And I’ll say it again that that narrative is a major problem. Do you ever stop to think what makes people so disillusioned that they vote the way they do? What is their lived experience ? why did generational Labour voters turn their back on the party, why did people who have fuck all believe they would be better off out of the EU? 
 

[Arniepie]

51 minutes ago, Captain Howdy said:

And I’ll say it again that that narrative is a major problem. Do you ever stop to think what makes people so disillusioned that they vote the way they do? What is their lived experience ? why did generational Labour voters turn their back on the party, why did people who have fuck all believe they would be better off out of the EU? 
 

The eu is a different issue.

I dont think everyone single person who voted for Brexit was an idiot but I do think many were took in by the lies.

What I will say is that the people who did turn the back on new labour were offered a chance between a genuine centre left option,and a hard right option.They chose hard right .

So as a protest at labour moving more to the right..they went even more right wing.

Where is the logic in that?

 

 

[Gnasher]

1 hour ago, Captain Howdy said:

Zemmour? Do……Not…..Like  but he appears popular, I think he’s against Frexit though?

That's him, Zemmour..

 

Add in Le Penn and Barnier and it makes Farage and our lot look like Owen Jones, but they're all hip, cool and open minded these French.

[A Red]

45 minutes ago, Arniepie said:

The eu is a different issue.

I dont think everyone single person who voted for Brexit was an idiot but I do think many were took in by the lies.

What I will say is that the people who did turn the back on new labour were offered a chance between a genuine centre left option,and a hard right option.They chose hard right .

So as a protest at labour moving more to the right..they went even more right wing.

Where is the logic in that?

 

 

There's no logic to it because you're talking bollocks. People didn't vote tory because Labour went to the right, if anything they voted for them because Labour went to the left. 

[Captain Howdy]

54 minutes ago, Arniepie said:

The eu is a different issue.

I dont think everyone single person who voted for Brexit was an idiot but I do think many were took in by the lies.

What I will say is that the people who did turn the back on new labour were offered a chance between a genuine centre left option,and a hard right option.They chose hard right .

So as a protest at labour moving more to the right..they went even more right wing.

Where is the logic in that?

 

 

People voted against Labour because they simply didn’t trust them, their Brexit policy was an absolute shambles. People who had fuck all wanted a change and they clearly didn’t believe that Labour offered or were sympathetic to that change, it really was that simple imo. Deriding them as thick/racist is merely grist to the mill. They have fuck all to lose, the minutiae is irrelevant to them.

[VladimirIlyich]

Just now, Captain Howdy said:

People voted against Labour because they simply didn’t trust them, their Brexit policy was an absolute shambles. People who had fuck all wanted a change and they clearly didn’t believe that Labour offered or where sympathetic to that change, it really was that simple imo. Deriding them as thick/racist is merely grist to the mill. They have fuck all to lose, the minutiae is irrelevant to them.

People believe the media and the media is controlled by right wing megalomaniacs who want everything for nothing. They are smart,slick and have all the power. The only people who can change that are too ignorant to realise they can. And 'Labour went too far to the left' is just the same old tired bullshit that those media barons recycle every election and they do so because it works. It worked with Miliband and it eventually worked with Corbyn yet both are politically miles apart.

[Captain Howdy]

7 minutes ago, VladimirIlyich said:

People believe the media and the media is controlled by right wing megalomaniacs who want everything for nothing. They are smart,slick and have all the power. The only people who can change that are too ignorant to realise they can. And 'Labour went too far to the left' is just the same old tired bullshit that those media barons recycle every election and they do so because it works. It worked with Miliband and it eventually worked with Corbyn yet both are politically miles apart.

How do you know what people believe? Who the fuck are you? You’re just a voter with a life exactly the same as every other voter. The arrogance is breathtaking 

[Jennings]

People voted Tory because of the influence of mainstream media. People don't need to think for themselves if they get their ideas as shrink-wrapped soundbites provided by the Daily Mail and the other rags.

 

The greatest con-trick they play is getting working class people to read the S*n.

The second is getting Corbyn badged as a racist.