Blair @ Brown

[Curly]

On 20/10/2021 at 16:34, Section_31 said:

 

Definitely. Whatever you think about people like them, or the likes of John Major and Heseltine for that matter, they look like intellectual powerhouses compared to the current crop we have. Imagine when the history books and TV shows are written about this era?

 

"Afghanistan was on the verge of collapse, Raab was on holiday and had left strict instructions not to be disturbed while he was by the pool."

 

"As the Pandemic began to escalate, The Prime Minister asked a vacuum cleaner company to make some ventilators. Then he went camping." 

 

Hahaha

[Chris]

 

I blitzed through this in a couple of days after getting back to the UK this week. Absolutely brilliant. Nobody does this stuff better than the BBC. I found the way they spoke about each other was fascinating. So guarded, yet so revealing at the same time. Wearing their scars, both physically and in their expressions. Would love to see a follow up where they're actually in the room together going through this stuff.

 

Say what you want about Blair, he's the only politician in this country in the last half century that fucking knew how to beat Tories which, of course, is what actually matters. Iraq, of course, clouds everything, but those 10 years he was in were actually pretty decent in this country, certainly compared to everything that came before and after. His legacy will never recover though. And rightly so. And he knows it. 

 

Brown seemed pretty philosophical about it all really. Level headed when he was handed an absolute handful of dogshit by his old mate who knew time was up and doom was imminent. Brown still dwarves any of his successors from an intellectual and political standpoint. 

 

Now there's no chance of a Labour win because of all the "centrist this, centrist that" from people who profess to want the tories out at all cost, failing to realise that you have to win at a national level. Then there's that wet blanket in charge now and the Tories seizing the working man's ground via the nationalist agenda. 

 

Could do with another pair like these coming through the ranks if anyone is actually serious about getting rid of the Tories beyond "the absolute boy" japes. 

 

*awaits shelling*

 

 

 

 

 

[Jairzinho]

 

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Now there's no chance of a Labour win because of all the "centrist this, centrist that" from people who profess to want the tories out at all cost, failing to realise that you have to win at a national level. 

 

Yes, that's the deffo the reason.

[Chris]

1 minute ago, Jairzinho said:

 

Yes, that's the deffo the reason.

 

It's one of them.

[Jairzinho]

8 minutes ago, Chris said:

 

It's one of them.

What does it even mean? Some people on twitter make jokes about how shit Keir Starmer is? Or the membership are starting to lose the will to go door to door and attempt to answer the question "What does Labour actually represent?"

 

Who is "failing to realise that you have to win at national level"? As if the population simply can't get enough of the current ideology and tactics of the Labour Party.

 

It's as asinine and tedious as the People's Front of Judea arguing with the People's Judean Front side of the party.

 

The Labour Party is currently fucking shit, and it isn't the fault of the left. The right wanted rid of the left, and they've been largely successful in doing so. Time for them to start actually doing something which appeals to the general public. 

[Arniepie]

1 hour ago, Chris said:

 

I blitzed through this in a couple of days after getting back to the UK this week. Absolutely brilliant. Nobody does this stuff better than the BBC. I found the way they spoke about each other was fascinating. So guarded, yet so revealing at the same time. Wearing their scars, both physically and in their expressions. Would love to see a follow up where they're actually in the room together going through this stuff.

 

Say what you want about Blair, he's the only politician in this country in the last half century that fucking knew how to beat Tories which, of course, is what actually matters. Iraq, of course, clouds everything, but those 10 years he was in were actually pretty decent in this country, certainly compared to everything that came before and after. His legacy will never recover though. And rightly so. And he knows it. 

 

Brown seemed pretty philosophical about it all really. Level headed when he was handed an absolute handful of dogshit by his old mate who knew time was up and doom was imminent. Brown still dwarves any of his successors from an intellectual and political standpoint. 

 

Now there's no chance of a Labour win because of all the "centrist this, centrist that" from people who profess to want the tories out at all cost, failing to realise that you have to win at a national level. Then there's that wet blanket in charge now and the Tories seizing the working man's ground via the nationalist agenda. 

 

Could do with another pair like these coming through the ranks if anyone is actually serious about getting rid of the Tories beyond "the absolute boy" japes. 

 

*awaits shelling*

 

 

 

 

 

What is the magic formula for beating the Tories?

I'm guessing sucking murdochs cock must be right up there?

[Chris]

Just now, Arniepie said:

What is the magic formula for beating the Tories?

I'm guessing sucking murdochs cock must be right up there?

 

How should I know? I'm not running for office.

[A Red]

5 hours ago, Chris said:

 

I blitzed through this in a couple of days after getting back to the UK this week. Absolutely brilliant. Nobody does this stuff better than the BBC. I found the way they spoke about each other was fascinating. So guarded, yet so revealing at the same time. Wearing their scars, both physically and in their expressions. Would love to see a follow up where they're actually in the room together going through this stuff.

 

Say what you want about Blair, he's the only politician in this country in the last half century that fucking knew how to beat Tories which, of course, is what actually matters. Iraq, of course, clouds everything, but those 10 years he was in were actually pretty decent in this country, certainly compared to everything that came before and after. His legacy will never recover though. And rightly so. And he knows it. 

 

Brown seemed pretty philosophical about it all really. Level headed when he was handed an absolute handful of dogshit by his old mate who knew time was up and doom was imminent. Brown still dwarves any of his successors from an intellectual and political standpoint. 

 

Now there's no chance of a Labour win because of all the "centrist this, centrist that" from people who profess to want the tories out at all cost, failing to realise that you have to win at a national level. Then there's that wet blanket in charge now and the Tories seizing the working man's ground via the nationalist agenda. 

 

Could do with another pair like these coming through the ranks if anyone is actually serious about getting rid of the Tories beyond "the absolute boy" japes. 

 

*awaits shelling*

 

 

 

 

 

In the main, Blair knew what the electorate wanted, Corbyn didnt, not sure about Starmer.

[Creator Supreme]

4 minutes ago, A Red said:

In the main, Blair knew what the electorate wanted, Corbyn didnt, not sure about Starmer.

What caused the surge in support in 2017 then? Genuine question?

[Captain Howdy]

6 hours ago, Chris said:

 

I blitzed through this in a couple of days after getting back to the UK this week. Absolutely brilliant. Nobody does this stuff better than the BBC. I found the way they spoke about each other was fascinating. So guarded, yet so revealing at the same time. Wearing their scars, both physically and in their expressions. Would love to see a follow up where they're actually in the room together going through this stuff.

 

Say what you want about Blair, he's the only politician in this country in the last half century that fucking knew how to beat Tories which, of course, is what actually matters. Iraq, of course, clouds everything, but those 10 years he was in were actually pretty decent in this country, certainly compared to everything that came before and after. His legacy will never recover though. And rightly so. And he knows it. 

 

Brown seemed pretty philosophical about it all really. Level headed when he was handed an absolute handful of dogshit by his old mate who knew time was up and doom was imminent. Brown still dwarves any of his successors from an intellectual and political standpoint. 

 

Now there's no chance of a Labour win because of all the "centrist this, centrist that" from people who profess to want the tories out at all cost, failing to realise that you have to win at a national level. Then there's that wet blanket in charge now and the Tories seizing the working man's ground via the nationalist agenda. 

 

Could do with another pair like these coming through the ranks if anyone is actually serious about getting rid of the Tories beyond "the absolute boy" japes. 

 

*awaits shelling*

 

 

 

 

 

Agree with a lot of that. Completely wasting your time on here though.

[A Red]

7 minutes ago, Creator Supreme said:

What caused the surge in support in 2017 then? Genuine question?

He had a better understanding but he still didn't really know what the electorate wanted. He got hammered in the next one because he quite clearly had no idea. 

[Chris]

1 minute ago, Captain Howdy said:

Agree with a lot of that. Completely wasting your time on here though.

 

Oh, of course. Knew that before I started. 

[skend04]

15 minutes ago, Creator Supreme said:

What caused the surge in support in 2017 then? Genuine question?

The OAPs and boomers thought they'd have to cough up for care and so abandoned May's Tories. Very little to do with finding Corbyn to be leadership material.

[Captain Howdy]

18 minutes ago, skend04 said:

The OAPs and boomers thought they'd have to cough up for care and so abandoned May's Tories. Very little to do with finding Corbyn to be leadership material.

Plus the little matter that he actually, you know, lost.

[Creator Supreme]

Yeah he lost but it was a close run thing.

[A Red]

Blair was a salesman, Brown wasn't and Corbyn most certainly wasn't. Labour wont win until they get another one.

[Arniepie]

3 hours ago, Creator Supreme said:

What caused the surge in support in 2017 then? Genuine question?

Or the loss of support 2 years later?

Heaven forbid 2 years of relentless character assassination took its toll.

The argument that people didmt want what corbyn was selling surely means they were quite happy to put their futures in a lying corrupt callous cunt.

A ringing endorsement for this country.

How quickly a program about Blair/brown descends into another corbyn bashing eh?

[A Red]

38 minutes ago, Arniepie said:

 

How quickly a program about Blair/brown descends into another corbyn bashing eh?

I think it is more about looking at why Blair was successful and everyone that has followed him so far has failed. If you would like to see an end to this government its quite an important exercise.

[Rico1304]

Sir Blair @ Brown

[rb14]

Blair is a cunt of the highest order, polling only marginally below Campbell in my all-time cunts list, a list still headed by that cunting witch, herself only marginally ahead of that fat mop-headed blubber cunt, the risible leader of a party of cunts. 

 

The Labour Party stands for nothing. It's a meaningless pile of shite, soulless and cast adrift in a sea of mediocrity with a bunch of headless chickens as sailors. If your ship can't float when the tide's in, it deserves to sink. Starmer first. 

 

As for Blair @ Brown, sounds good. It's on my list. 

[AngryOfTuebrook]

4 hours ago, Rico1304 said:

Sir Blair @ Brown

My opinion of knighthoods and my opinion of Blair align neatly.

[Strontium]

My main takeaway from all of this is that there are still an awful lot of people who don't know what war crimes are.

[TD_LFC]

[Bjornebye]

[VladimirIlyich]

9 hours ago, Bjornebye said:

Which pretty much encompasses every US and UK leader over the past 50 years. Most world leaders actually.