All time Liverpool 11

[Tony Moanero]

59 minutes ago, belarus said:

I might as well jib it off - that’s what it’s going to be isn’t it? I’ve embarked on a pointless exercise 

Nah, you’ve started, so you might as well finish. Robertson isn’t a shoo-in by any means, in my opinion. Salah won’t get in everyone’s team, some will pick Suarez, others might include Keegan.

[Curly]

32 minutes ago, Tony Moanero said:

Nah, you’ve started, so you might as well finish. Robertson isn’t a shoo-in by any means, in my opinion. Salah won’t get in everyone’s team, some will pick Suarez, others might include Keegan.

Yeah, fair enough. What formation shall I do? 4-4-2 or 4-3-3? I haven’t thought it through

[Tony Moanero]

4 minutes ago, belarus said:

Yeah, fair enough. What formation shall I do? 4-4-2 or 4-3-3? I haven’t thought it through

I’d probably go 4-4-2, as it’s the formation that I probably most associate with Liverpool. Either, though.

[Curly]

3 minutes ago, Tony Moanero said:

I’d probably go 4-4-2, as it’s the formation that I probably most associate with Liverpool. Either, though.

It the positional stuff that causes the issue actually. If we do 4-4-2, where does Mo and Mane compete for a place for example - wing or one of the front 2? I might Just do 4-3-3 and have midfielders and attackers to make it easy. It’ll speed it up a bit too. Will have the results by the weekend then too

[Jarvinja Ilnow]

18 hours ago, Tony Moanero said:

When comparing footy players from different eras, you have to use a footballing equivalent of the boxing pound-for-pound system, to allow for differing levels of fitness, etc. Ultimately, it’s just a bit of fun and is entirely subjective.

With today's training and analysis, just imagine how even greater Clemence would have been.

[Jarvinja Ilnow]

30 minutes ago, belarus said:

It the positional stuff that causes the issue actually. If we do 4-4-2, where does Mo and Mane compete for a place for example - wing or one of the front 2? I might Just do 4-3-3 and have midfielders and attackers to make it easy. It’ll speed it up a bit too. Will have the results by the weekend then too

3-5-2! A trio from VVD, Hansen, Lawrenson, Hyypia, Hughes would be formidable. And I'm not talking Northampton Town formidable, either.

[Bjornebye]

Dalglish doesn't get int...... Oh my god 

[Curly]

8 minutes ago, Bjornebye said:

Dalglish doesn't get int...... Oh my god 

Kenny, digger and rush my front 3

[Bjornebye]

8 minutes ago, belarus said:

Kenny, digger and rush my front 3

Code will be along in a minute to tell you that Diouf had better technical ability 

[YorkshireRed]

Picking any best ever Liverpool team starts with the name Dalglish being added to the list, we then take it from there. 

[Tony Moanero]

4 minutes ago, YorkshireRed said:

Picking any best ever Liverpool team starts with the name Dalglish being added to the list, we then take it from there. 

Souness and Dalglish.

[Curly]

33 minutes ago, Tony Moanero said:

Souness and Dalglish.

Gerrard and Dalglish for me

[YorkshireRed]

Dalglish, Souness and Gerrard are Liverpool’s greatest ever players. I can’t really split the latter two but Kenny is number one. 

[Code]

22 hours ago, aws said:

How many of today's team would get into a Liverpool team if they were transported back forty years in time? Not many - and if they did only Virgil and Robbo would last till Christmas. Like matching greyhounds in a scrap against bulldogs. 

Everyone in todays squad would get into the teams from back then. 
 

Todays players are simply much more fit and better technically, they run faster, they run longer, they are stronger, they have better technique and better stamina. 
 

Thats why its not comparable. 
 

 

[Code]

4 hours ago, Jarvinja Ilnow said:

With today's training and analysis, just imagine how even greater Clemence would have been.

So its imaginary then, we just make up stuff and imagine how things could be?

 

Thats why its pointless. 

[KMD7]

6 minutes ago, Code said:

So its imaginary then, we just make up stuff and imagine how things could be?

 

Thats why its pointless. 

Would you leave Kenny out of an all time Liverpool XI Code? 

[Code]

https://www.irishtimes.com/sport/soccer/english-soccer/ken-early-the-game-has-changed-so-much-it-s-time-to-change-match-schedules-1.4131276

[Code]

https://sciencenordic.com/denmark-football-society--culture/scientists-football-has-changed-dramatically/1440511

[Jarvinja Ilnow]

10 hours ago, Code said:

So its imaginary then, we just make up stuff and imagine how things could be?

 

Thats why its pointless. 

Not at all. If you write off Clemence because you never saw him play then you are imagining him being an inferior player to Alison. I was saying I've seen both and Clem was better. No slight on Alison.

[aws]

Is there anybody on here who actually saw Clemence play for us who thinks Alisson is better? 

[Code]

58 minutes ago, aws said:

Is there anybody on here who actually saw Clemence play for us who thinks Alisson is better? 

Yes.

[Code]

1 hour ago, Jarvinja Ilnow said:

Not at all. If you write off Clemence because you never saw him play then you are imagining him being an inferior player to Alison. I was saying I've seen both and Clem was better. No slight on Alison.

I have seen him play plenty of times.

 

In your other post you said,  With today's training and analysis, just imagine how even greater Clemence would have been.

 

My point is that we cant imagine these things, we have to look at how the players performed without having to imagine how they could perform if they played and grew up 40 years later. 
 

Football has developed, players are fitter than ever before, they train better than ever before, they have more information than ever before etc, etc. 

 

Its basically pointless.

 

Its a bit like saying a Commodore 64 is the best computer ever. 

[Bjornebye]

11 hours ago, Code said:

Everyone in todays squad would get into the teams from back then. 
 

Todays players are simply much more fit and better technically, they run faster, they run longer, they are stronger, they have better technique and better stamina. 
 

Thats why its not comparable. 
 

 

 

11 hours ago, Code said:

So its imaginary then, we just make up stuff and imagine how things could be?

 

Thats why its pointless. 

 

 

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[aws]

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