Brentford (A) - Sat 25th Sep 2021 (5:30pm)

[Dave D]

18 minutes ago, El Rojo said:

Yeah, agree with that. The ‘Oooh, no big club will fancy coming here now,’ narrative is always a bit false too. They won’t be as casual as we were. 

I remember a similar game losing at Bournemouth 4-3 with virtually last kick of game a few seasons back.

Since I think we have won every trophy in world football while they sold lots of players and eventually went down 

[Mathewbet1]

Look at the table you dweebs

[Ronnie Whelan]

57 minutes ago, dockers_strike said:

Agree Ronnie. This talk of Brentford being 'dogshit' is way off the mark in my opinion. Our poor defending and it has to be said, finishing let us down today.

Absolutely Docker. On a different day, we could have won by a few. On a different day, we could have lost. One of those days. We nick a goal in injury time and suddenly it's "stuff of Champions" talk.

 

Agree completely we have only ourselves to blame. We'll have more of those days, just as City, Chelsea and United will. We just need to have less of them than the others.

 

Looking at City, they have had the hardest start and we really need to put a bit of daylight between us and them next week. We owe them one. 

[Jairzinho]

35 minutes ago, El Rojo said:

Also, stonewall penalty when Jota was dragged to the ground, surely? 

They could have had one with TAA as well. 

[3 Stacks]

The intensity wasn't there and although Brentford aren't very good, we can't get away with that against that type of team. That was basically our first eleven, minus Jones. Too many players not at the standard needed.

 

Mane played well last week, but he's shit 4 out of 5 games now. Robertson needs to be pushed by Tsimikas. van Dijk, although we are trying to pace him, has to get his physicality back. He was always a cool customer kind of defender. That isn't gonna work anymore if he can't run and jump as well as he used to. He got handled today. Trent, too nonchalant. 

[Code]

1 hour ago, sir roger said:

Not the end of the world .

 

Thought we were very casual and there was a whiff of arrogance about us all day. Surely TAA's days as free kick taker are under threat.

 

Ha ha , just seen JoeBuck's post

I think Trent is awful at free kicks. 

[DJLJ]

17 minutes ago, Ronnie Whelan said:

Absolutely Docker. On a different day, we could have won by a few. On a different day, we could have lost. One of those days. We nick a goal in injury time and suddenly it's "stuff of Champions" talk.

 

Agree completely we have only ourselves to blame. We'll have more of those days, just as City, Chelsea and United will. We just need to have less of them than the others.

 

Looking at City, they have had the hardest start and we really need to put a bit of daylight between us and them next week. We owe them one. 

Today was a wasted chance to do this though. We had a lead twice and let it slip, that isn’t the stuff of champions. 

[Mathewbet1]

Guess that's the season done then see you in  2023

[Ronnie Whelan]

5 minutes ago, DJLJ said:

Today was a wasted chance to do this though. We had a lead twice and let it slip, that isn’t the stuff of champions. 

Sorry what I meant was if we nicked it 4-3 in the last minute it would be "stuff of champions".

 

Today wasn't good enough. We were poor for what we should be and Brentford stepped up a few notches and deserve credit for that. We should expect 6 points off them, but if you aren't at it, you can drop points, no more than City last week against Southampton.

 

I think the league will be competitive enough this year in the sense that it won't be two or three teams getting 97 or 98 points. I think all the teams will drop silly points.  

 

On Brentford, I actually could see them getting another big scalp. A crowd giving it an FA cup style atmosphere and a team that seems well organised and more than the sum of their parts. Yeah City or Chelsea could go there and hit them for five or six. Equally, who knows...

[AngryOfTuebrook]

26 minutes ago, Code said:

I think Trent is awful at free kicks. 

We don't have anyone who reliably takes a good kick. I dream of Gerrard, Suarez and Coutinho.

[LFC 6 Times]

Trent’s Free kicks have really regressed, got 3 in 19/20. None since, I can’t remember last time he even forced keeper to make a good save.

[Strontium]

50 minutes ago, Mathewbet1 said:

Look at the table you dweebs

 

It's the table at the end of the season which counts. We've played 1 decent side and 5 Championship-level sides, of course it's going to make us look good.

[Red Shift]

1 hour ago, Mathewbet1 said:

Look at the table you dweebs

Exactly. We could have LOST that game we were so awful at the back, but we held for the point, playing some great great attacking football - classic fluid Liverpool at speed second half AND...our so called rivals in Chelsea and Utd floundered at home on the same weekend.

 

We safely dodge a bullet to go top.

[s(k)aturation]

 

Decent point away, against a side at the most exciting, pulsating point in their history.

 

Top of the table.

 

Exciting game.  Nothing wrong with that.

 

 

[s(k)aturation]

34 minutes ago, Strontium Dog™ said:

 

It's the table at the end of the season which counts. We've played 1 decent side and 5 Championship-level sides, of course it's going to make us look good.

 

So, we're fucked yeah?  OK, I'll just tune out then, and check the table at the end of the season, to confirm that.

 

 

[s(k)aturation]

1 hour ago, DJLJ said:

Today was a wasted chance to do this though. We had a lead twice and let it slip, that isn’t the stuff of champions. 

 

It was.  Luckily though, it's football and there are lots of games, and we get the chance to do that, directly, next week.

 

If we can beat City next week, I might be able to look back on today as an exciting game and a hard fought point.

 

It beats losing 2-7 to Villa, at any rate.

 

 

[stringvest]

4 hours ago, Jordy Brouwer said:

Typical Robbo shot. Maybe the coaching staff should work with him on that its the weakest part of his game. 

No, that’ll be his right foot.  Criminal to be so one footed in the premier league.  He was terrible today.

[aws]

3 minutes ago, stringvest said:

No, that’ll be his right foot.  Criminal to be so one footed in the premier league.  He was terrible today.

He's been poor for a while now. His assists have dried up and they always used to more than make up for the weaknesses in his game. 

[stringvest]

I thought the back four were all pretty poor today, as were Henderson and Fabinho.  Time after time TAA was outmanned after a long ball, and Henderson did absolutely nothing about it.  He just pootled about in the middle of the park while we were under the cosh. Piss poor.  Bringing Firmino on, who clearly has been training without a ball, was a massive mistake when we were so exposed. Too much space in front of our back four, no closing down, and very sloppy in the final third.  Brentford were very good value for their point.  Lovely ground too.

[aRdja]

Disappointing performance. I thought the entire back 6 (including Fabinho and Alisson) were sub par. Toney had the beating of Joel, and Virgil was very subdued. Our full backs got outfought and offered very little going forward. Mane’s poor run of form continued, it’s been more than a year now since we saw a genuine world class performance from him. Despite the misses Jota and Salah were our two best players. It’s a bit disheartening as others than Thiago, that was meant to be our best XI. 

[3 Stacks]

Also, along with the several poor individual performances, Klopp got out tacticed a bit. We didn't look ready at all for the aerial attack. On 2 of the goals, the backpost is overloaded and Brentford have like 4-5 bodies in the box.

[stringvest]

4 hours ago, Jordy Brouwer said:

Good play by Bobby. Will be interesting to see how have handles the competition for his place he has. 

He was terrible.  You must be referring to the one time he didn’t lose the ball

[aRdja]

Btw how good was Toney. That was a real statement performance from him.

[stringvest]

4 hours ago, Einch said:

Never got to grips with the overloads at the back post. Done twice with at least two more where we did defend the ball in better.

Really disappointed that the manager didn’t do something about it, and pissed off that the captain didn’t take responsibility and sort it out instead of letting TAA get mugged every few minutes

[stringvest]

2 hours ago, 3 Stacks said:

The intensity wasn't there and although Brentford aren't very good, we can't get away with that against that type of team. That was basically our first eleven, minus Jones. Too many players not at the standard needed.

 

Mane played well last week, but he's shit 4 out of 5 games now. Robertson needs to be pushed by Tsimikas. van Dijk, although we are trying to pace him, has to get his physicality back. He was always a cool customer kind of defender. That isn't gonna work anymore if he can't run and jump as well as he used to. He got handled today. Trent, too nonchalant. 

That’s not our first 11.  Tsimikas, Thiago and Elliot are in our best 11.