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My vote currently goes to Alvaro Morata. I can't get my head around all the big money transfers he's had to big clubs. He is absolute dog shit and nobody will ever convince me otherwise.

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5 minutes ago, Baltar said:

My vote currently goes to Alvaro Morata. I can't get my head around all the big money transfers he's had to big clubs. He is absolute dog shit and nobody will ever convince me otherwise.

Never heard of the cunt.

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Everyone that plays for Everton.  They're all supposed to be better than our equivalent of whatever position the play in, but are roundly slated as shit on their own poisonous forum.

Especially Richarlison.

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12 minutes ago, Baltar said:

My vote currently goes to Alvaro Morata. I can't get my head around all the big money transfers he's had to big clubs. He is absolute dog shit and nobody will ever convince me otherwise.

Totally agree although he's supposedly enjoying a golden spell whever he is now, isnt he? Absolutely amazing the transfer fees he's commanded.

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Carlos Valderama

Considering he has been voted in the 100 greatest players on the 20th century etc

His record is pretty shite, hardly stayed at a club more than 2 years, slummed in shite leagues and never really performed consistently at the highest level

 

If he has shit hair nobody would remember him

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16 minutes ago, Baltar said:

My vote currently goes to Alvaro Morata. I can't get my head around all the big money transfers he's had to big clubs. He is absolute dog shit and nobody will ever convince me otherwise.

Is right.

 

Alvaro Morata, Juventus - £170.1 million, six transfers

 

Closely followed by:

Henrikh Mkhitaryan, Roma - £101.52 million, six transfers

 

And then:

Paulinho, Guangzhou Evergrande - £114.71 million, seven transfers

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2 minutes ago, m0e said:

Is right.

 

Alvaro Morata, Juventus - £170.1 million, six transfers

 

Closely followed by:

Henrikh Mkhitaryan, Roma - £101.52 million, six transfers

 

And then:

Paulinho, Guangzhou Evergrande - £114.71 million, seven transfers

Andy Carroll £53ml

James Rodriguez 126ml

Romelu Lukaku 191ml

Angel di Maria 161ml

Ousmane Dembele 130ml

Gonzalo Higuain 143ml

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8 minutes ago, Lee909 said:

Carlos Valderama

Considering he has been voted in the 100 greatest players on the 20th century etc

His record is pretty shite, hardly stayed at a club more than 2 years, slummed in shite leagues and never really performed consistently at the highest level

 

If he has shit hair nobody would remember him

Untrue - legend. El Pibe played in my Sunday league here. His brother still does. Difficult to comprehend the pressures on that generation of Colombian players. 

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Just now, Tony Moanero said:

Bollocks!

Is right. Didnt like Best back in the day but have to admit, he was fucking awesome especially when he just stepped over chopper harris' knee high scythe!

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Andy Cole - decent strike rate but seemed to miss 6 before scoring

Harry Kane - don’t get the fuss

Beckham - with George Best here - no left foot, no pace, couldn’t tackle, couldn’t head

Agree on Morata - crap

Downing, championship player with a good agent

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Zlatan Ibrahimovic. Bags of ability which has been showcased numerous times, but always as a flat track bully and never in big games that really count. He's had well over £100m spent on transfers, and his agent Raiola has made a fair whack too.

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Gheorghe Hagi. 

Technically brilliant, but he had to have a team built around him or it simply didn’t happen for him. And when he did have teams built around him, it turned out those teams weren’t very good. 
Which added up to:

Great in the Communist Romanian league (but who cares?);

Fell flat for Real Madrid;

Spent his peak years getting relegated with Brescia and then winning the Anglo-Italian Cup for them against Notts County;

Fell flat with Barcelona;

Very good for Galatasaray, in another league nobody cares about and where he could be a big fish in a small pond. Basically the Romanian equivalent of Brian Laudrup at Rangers. 

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13 minutes ago, Pidge said:

Pippo Inzaghi and the lost art of the goal poacher

 

Also Guti, totally overrated.

Can't be having that one really

Inzaghi was bang average at most things but well over 200 goals in Serie A,40 in European football and not far off 1on 2 at international level for a guy that was often came off the bench later on in his career his record is outstanding. Only 5 players have scored more european goals than him as things stand. 

 

 

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I tried to multiquote posts in here that I disagree with, but it was too much.

 

In the words of the great Plato: "Some of you lot really need to behave. George Best. Fucking hell"

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Pogba comes to mind. Nowhere near the worst but it always pisses me off Scholes and Lampard are put in as comparisons to Gerrard, Gerrard was miles above those pair, absolute miles. Throw either of those into the liverpool sides Gerrard was in instead of Gerrard and they nor liverpool win fuck all or even come close.

 

I drink with a lot of mancs and I'm not putting this player as the worst top player or anywhere even close to being such but the thread just reminded of them the way we rate players and how they talk of Duncan Edwards those old enough said he would of been the greatest player to of ever played the game and all I could think was I bet he wouldn't of been but his absolute tragic death elevates him like death always does to the young and gifted. By all accounts he was a tremendous player its one of life's shit injustices when we never get to see talent bloom, like Buddy Holly's plane crash or the 27 club it feels like something more than life was stolen.

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David Luiz. Just awful at defending, which is a shame what with him being a defender and that.

 

It beggars belief how he's managed to con several clubs into paying a combined sum of almost 120 million quid for his services over the course of his career.

 

High point of said career? Being the lynchpin of Brazil's defence when they were on the wrong end of a 7-1 bumming from Germany. In the World Cup. In Brazil. Legend.

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16 minutes ago, Bobby Hundreds said:

Pogba comes to mind. Nowhere near the worst but it always pisses me off Scholes and Lampard are put in as comparisons to Gerrard, Gerrard was miles above those pair, absolute miles. Throw either of those into the liverpool sides Gerrard was in instead of Gerrard and they nor liverpool win fuck all or even come close.

 

I drink with a lot of mancs and I'm not putting this player as the worst top player or anywhere even close to being such but the thread just reminded of them the way we rate players and how they talk of Duncan Edwards those old enough said he would of been the greatest player to of ever played the game and all I could think was I bet he wouldn't of been but his absolute tragic death elevates him like death always does to the young and gifted. By all accounts he was a tremendous player its one of life's shit injustices when we never get to see talent bloom, like Buddy Holly's plane crash or the 27 club it feels like something more than life was stolen.

 

Scholes was a great player for a lot of years, but there are levels to this.

 

Gerrard was an absolute superman; box to box gunslinger, quarterback playmaker, #10 with Torres, 23 goals playing right mid - even recounting his exploits, they seem barely believable.

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