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To be honest I thought Southgate's initial tactics were pretty sound. Knew Italy would dominate the ball in the middle through the Jorginho / Barella / Veratti axis so fucked off the 4-2-3-1, and picked a side that wilfully gave up the middle of the park but would have the run of the flanks. For about 20 minutes it worked really well - then Jorginho got injured and Mancini used the break to explain how to counter it. From there, Italy never looked back and Southgate left it far, far too late to change things. In the end I paradoxically thought England's best chance to win was on penalties - despite the shit record - since they barely laid a glove on Italy for 75 minutes at least.

 

So he could have done some shit better but equally the Italians are a better side - they were on the night by a distance and they were through the tournament as well.

 

I'm sad for (most of) the players and that an opportunity for a bit of national unity has been lost, and I'm gutted for a few mates who are properly into the international footy. But the fucking cunts who broke into the stadium, crushing other fans and smashing into stewards, trashing the streets and sending racist shit to Saka and Rashford will be equally gutted, and that's very fucking enjoyable.

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8 hours ago, Bjornebye said:

 

 

 

You could not make this fucking shit up.

 

I thought I heard it the first time but listened to it again. Right at the very end someone yells out "You scouse bastards." Brilliant.

 

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27 minutes ago, s(k)aturation said:

Cheers mate.

 

Could teach us older, wiser shithouses a thing or two at times, eh... and he's in the maelstrom of social media, balls-deep.

 

He was showing me the most disgraceful, disgusting stuff in the aftermath of the game last night... five white lads kicking the shit out of an Asian bloke etc etc etc...

 

Fucked up world we're giving to our lads and lasses, that's for sure....

 

 

It certainly is mate. The mind boggles and its like there is no accountability these days. We've got some wonderful shit going on herevat the moment, burning and looting shops .

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13 minutes ago, BeefStroganoff said:

Whilst not excusing the behaviour, we know what they can be like, I think lockdown has played a massive part mental health wise on people. Some of them are like rabid animals, completely without reason. Theres lots of anger hanging in the air.

The eagerness to get out and visit museums etc had been bottled for quite some time. Let’s blame that 

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29 minutes ago, s(k)aturation said:

Cheers mate.

 

Could teach us older, wiser shithouses a thing or two at times, eh... and he's in the maelstrom of social media, balls-deep.

 

He was showing me the most disgraceful, disgusting stuff in the aftermath of the game last night... five white lads kicking the shit out of an Asian bloke etc etc etc...

 

Fucked up world we're giving to our lads and lasses, that's for sure....

 

 

 

23 minutes ago, BeefStroganoff said:

Society is almost finished as we know it. Everything has been politicised and weaponised. Its a far cry from the communities I grew up in where everyone would pull together for each other regardless.

 

A crying shame for my children to endure.

Yeah, because the 70s and 80s were such accepting times, with all creeds and leanings accepted with open arms. 
 

There are cunts about. Always have been and always will be.

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25 minutes ago, belarus said:

 

Yeah, because the 70s and 80s were such accepting times, with all creeds and leanings accepted with open arms. 
 

There are cunts about. Always have been and always will be.

Except back in the 70s and 80's there was some accountability and no mobile phone to share your twattish behaviour or post on line. On top of that the cops were still able to dish out any response to the rough stuff coming there way. These days there's always somebody popping up to support the anti social gobshites.

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I do feel a little bit sorry for some of the sound English fans. I am made up though that the little shit that crippled Van Dijk and effectively ruined our season didn’t end up being the hero of the hour. For a few horrifying moments there it was looking likely after the Jorginho penalty save. Also I had money on Italy to win outright before a ball was kicked so happy to make a few bob in the process. 

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If England and Southgate keep playing 4231 in the main ( and particularly if they go 5 at the back ) they need to find somebody far better than Mount in the attacking midfield role.

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48 minutes ago, belarus said:

 

Yeah, because the 70s and 80s were such accepting times, with all creeds and leanings accepted with open arms. 
 

There are cunts about. Always have been and always will be.

 

You know what mate, I'd conjecture there were LESS cunts about... and not just because of lower populations.

 

But you know what else, I don't know that and nor do you.

 

Regardless of doing an irrelevant tallying or comparison though, yes, cuntery is a pretty prevalent characteristic of humans from the get-go.

 

I'll say one further thing, in the 70s when I was the "foreigner", the "wog" with immigrant parents growing up in a supposedly much more xenophobic Australia than now... I felt a lot warmer, safer, more engaged and happier than I do now, supposedly enjoying all the trappings of blissful middle-class respectability.

 

In the late 1970s in Australia, for example, a RIGHT-WING Prime Minister fathered the Asian multiculturalism that has defined this country to a significant extent since.

 

Imagine a right-wing initiative like that in your wildest dreams today, and it not being slavery or at best exploitation.

 

 

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Morning after the night before, some thoughts.

 

Platini's idea of staging games around Europe was a good one but not suited to the covid restrictive times. Overall however, flaws appeared as some fans would have been expected to travel from one country to another in a couple of days as their teams progressed.

 

The shite about England having an 'unfair' advantage of not having to travel would have applied to any other nation that hosted the semis and final if the host had progressed. Indeed when the tournament is awarded to any one country as in the past, they have a massive advantage, playing all their games in their own country. Right?

 

Overall, the games were dire with entertaining ones few and far between. Might be something we experience more in European club football seeing as UEFA have done away with 'away' goals rule?

 

England.

I admit to being disappointed they didnt win. It was a great opportunity to win the competition. Concentrating on just the final, they got off to a great start, a goal inside the first 2 minutes. Only another 88 to hang on for then! And so it seemed.

 

By whatever circumstances, England were on the back foot and couldnt take the game to Italy. It all reminded me of a plucky League One side who score an earlier goal against a Premier League team in an FA Cup tie and battle vainly to keep the ball and defend the score.

 

But England couldnt because from the goalkeeper to the midfield, no one had the idea or ability to put their foot on the ball and find the nearest white shirt instead of just putting their foot through it and expecting Kane, Sterling or Mount to chase it.

 

Talking of Mount, just how the fuck did he manage to stay on the pitch until extra time? The lazy arsed fuck offered nothing up front and I didnt see him stick a foot in at all during the 2nd half. I thought he''d been subbed at half time because I never heard a mention of him until he was subbed in extra time!

 

Once again, sterling flattered to deceive. He thinks if he falls over often enough, the ref is going to give him more fouls. And when he did stay on his feet and got into dangerous positions, he always wanted too many touches instead of whipping in a cross or taking a shot.

 

Kane just looked fucked to me. I think I could beat him in a sprint!

 

The Manager.

Southgate is probably a decent guy. But he's no top class manager. Knighthood? Fuck off, you dont reward failure.

 

Once again, he looked like a rabbit caught in car headlights. I think he didnt believe his team had scored when it did such was his demeanor when they did.

 

Is he the first manager to sub players he has put on twice when the said players were not injured? Isnt subbing a player you've put on not 30 minutes before a waste of a substitution? Shouldnt your tactics dictate who is put on so you dont have to take him off when you want the team to change formation and tactics later?

 

The penalties.

The old girl said to me 'why do you get annoyed when any player misses a penalty?' It's true, I do get annoyed when players miss but not all of them. Doesnt matter what country they were playing for, either.

 

I said it's because some of them want to be billy big bollocks, look at me, with their stupid 'run ups,' little dances and fancy flicks instead of concentrating on putting the ball in the net. All they do is confuse themselves most of the time and miss.

 

FIFA has made it even harder for keepers to save pen legitimately yet still these fucks persist with their dances and stupid tippy tappy pens. Put your fucking laces through it is my mantra.

 

Did the England players practice pens? Did the England coaches say it's ok Marcus, carry on with your silly little dance before your run up?

 

We all know you have to score your pens. Myself, I think there are 3 big pressure points in these penalty situations: Got to score your first, got to score your 5th and got to score immediately after the oppos have missed their's.

 

You just knew Rashford was going to miss as soon as he started his shuffle which went on and on and on until he was on top of the ball at which point he didnt have the position to put power into it or place it.

 

Sancho, fuck me, Dortmund must be pissing themselves getting over £70m for him. He's done nothing in my opinion to warrant that fee.

 

Saka. I feel for the boy, I really do. Where the fuck were southgate's managerial qualities in letting the least experienced player in his team take what was always going to be a big pressure 5th penalty? Why arent senior pros like sterling, grealish or stones stepping in to take that?

 

Yes, I understand Saka may have wanted to take the pen. Or, even if he hadnt taken the 5th, may have had to take a later sudden death one. But Im amazed at the cowardice of some of these senior players who demand £300,000 a week wages but let an 18 year old kid take a big penalty before them.

 

Overall, Ive no problem with the result. England were deffo second best for all but the first 2 minutes of the game. At half time I said tothe old girl if Italy equalise England were in trouble because they were losing possession in their own half, and not making any real chances. Did Donnaruma have a shot to save after Shaw's goal and before the penalties?

 

Thank god it's over. Here's to the start of the Premier League.

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1 minute ago, dockers_strike said:

Morning after the night before, some thoughts.

 

Platini's idea of staging games around Europe was a good one but not suited to the covid restrictive times. Overall however, flaws appeared as some fans would have been expected to travel from one country toanother in a couple of days as their teams progressed.

 

The shite about England having an 'unfair' advantage of not having to travel would have applied to any other nation that hosted the semis and final if the host had progressed. Indeed when the tournament is awarded to any one country as in the past, they have a massive advantage, playing all their games in their own country. Right?

 

Overall, the games were dire with entertaining ones few and far between. Might be something we experience more in European club football seeing as UEFA have done away with 'away' goals rule?

 

England.

I admit to being disappointed they didnt win. It was a great opportunity to win the competition. Concentrating on just the final, they got off to a great start, a goal inside the first 2 minutes. Only another 88 to hang on for then! And so it seemed.

 

By whatever circumstances, England were on the back foot and couldnt take the game to Italy. It all reminded me of a plucky League One side who score an earlier goal against a Premier League team in an FA Cup tie and battle vainly to keep the ball and defend the score.

 

But England couldnt because from the goalkeeper to the midfield, no one had the idea or ability to put their foot on the ball and find the nearest white shirt instead of putting their foot through it and expecting Kane, Sterling or Mount to chase it.

 

Talking of Mount, just how the fuck did he manage to stay on the pitch until extra time? The lazy arsed fuck offered nothing up front and I didnt see him stick a foot in at all during the 2nd half. I thought he''d been subbed at half timebecause I never heard a mention of him until he was subbed in extra time!

 

Once again, sterling flattered to deceive. He thinks if he falls over often enough, the ref is going to give him more fouls. And when he did stay on his feet and got into dangerous positions, he always wanted too many touches instead of whipping in a cross of taking a shot.

 

Kane just looked fucked to me. I think I could beat him in a sprint!

 

The Manager.

Southgate is probably a decent guy. But he's no top class manager. Knighthood? Fuck off, you dont reward failure.

 

Once again, he looked like a rabbit caught in car headlights. I think he didnt believe his team had scored when it did such was his demeanor when they did.

 

Is he the first manager to sub players he has put on twice when the said players were not injured? Isnt subbing a player you've put on not 30 minutes before a waste of a substitution? Shouldnt your tactics dictate who is put on so you dont have to take him off when you want the team to change formation and tactics later?

 

The penalties.

The old girl said to me 'why do you get annoyed when any player misses a penalty?' It's true, I do get annoyed when players miss but not all of them. Doesnt matter what country they were playing for, either.

 

I said it's because some of them want to be billy big bollocks, look at me, with their stupid 'run ups,' little dances and fancy flicks instead of concentrating on putting the ball in the net. All they do is confuse themselves most of the time and miss.

 

FIFA has made it even harder for keepers to save pen legitimately yet still these fucks persist with their dances and stupid tippy tappy pens. Put your fucking laces through it is my mantra.

 

Did the England players practice pens? Did the England coaches say it's ok Marcus, carry on with your silly little dance before your run up?

 

We all know you have to score your pens. Myself, I think there are 3 big pressure points in these penalty situations: Got to score your first, got to score your 5th and got to score immediately after the oppos have missed their's.

 

You just knew Rashford was going to miss as soon as he started his shuffle which went on and on and on until he was on top of the ball at which point he didnt have the position to put power into it or place it.

 

Sancho, fuck me, Dortmund must be pissing themselves getting over £70m for him. He's done nothing in my opinion to warrant that fee.

 

Saka. I feel for the boy, I really do. Where the fuck were southgate's managerial qualities in letting the least experienced player in his team take what was always going to be a big pressure 5th penalty? Why arent senior pros like sterling, grealish or stones stepping in to take that?

 

Yes, I understand Saka may have wanted to take the pen. Or, even if he hadnt taken the 5th, may have had to take a later sudden death one. But Im amazed at the cowardice of some of these senior players who demand £300,000 a week wages but let an 18 year old kid take a big penalty before them.

 

Overall, Ive no problem with the result. England were deffo second best for all but the first 2 minutes of the game. At half time I said tothe old girl if Italy equalise England were in trouble because they were losing possession in their own half, and not making any real chances. Did Donnaruma have a shot to save after Shaw's goal and before the penalties?

 

Thank god it's over. Here's to the start of the Premier League.

Shithouse revenge negging cunt.

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1 minute ago, dockers_strike said:

Fuck off you cry arse baby cunt who uses you 'neg' just because you dont like the truth.

hahaha revenge negging snide cunt... come say it to face or fuck off snide revenge negging shithouse cunt

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2 minutes ago, Istvan Kuntstain said:

precisely.

You do realise what I wrote wasn’t an aimed dig at you, it was aimed at the forums very own Darren grimes. 

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3 minutes ago, Istvan Kuntstain said:

hahaha revenge negging snide cunt... come say it to face or fuck off snide revenge negging shithouse cunt

Wow! A real life cyber bully!

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I feel for the players to be honest. A proper manager would have had his most experienced players on pens, Kane on no.5. Southgate looks like an arms round the players type, but as has been posted once Italy regrouped he didn’t have the smarts to rejig and go again. 

 

As for everything else, it just shows up an element of society at large that happens to manifest at football. I knew the lads who missed would cop it online. 

 

35 and 36 year old centre backs for Italy and he didn’t think to have all of his young attacking players running at them non stop, and pressing the Italian midfield. I know Kane set up the goal but  coming so deep all the time then trotting to the edge of the box is shite. Any European footy fan would say England’s biggest fault is not being good with the ball, and the players not being tactically astute enough. 
 

 

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