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If England keep it tight like they have in this tournament, they'll win. Germany make dumb mistakes and are terrible at defending counters. The Portugal game looks like a bit of an outlier. 

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Just now, Strontium Dog™ said:

Thus far people pre-emptively complaining about jingoism around this fixture are much more apparent than actual jingoism around this fixture.

Spot on. 

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4 hours ago, Jockey said:

Thinking this morning - one of the last games I saw with my Grandad was the Semi in 1988 between Germany and Holland - Van Basten's last minute goal sending the Dutch through. If Germany win, that is still possible. 

Germany v Netherlands is a much bigger match than Germany v England. Massive hatred in the footy. 

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12 minutes ago, Strontium Dog™ said:

Thus far people pre-emptively complaining about jingoism around this fixture are much more apparent than actual jingoism around this fixture.


The rag have started it already today. 

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6 minutes ago, cloggypop said:

Germany v Netherlands is a much bigger match than Germany v England. Massive hatred in the footy. 

It is - I remember 96 in the City Centre and after the Dutch had lost to France, lots of Dutch fans telling us to 'fuck the Germans'! 

 

Don't think the Germans are arsed about England! They do beat England though, whereas you have beaten them quite often. 

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1 minute ago, Jockey said:

It is - I remember 96 in the City Centre and after the Dutch had lost to France, lots of Dutch fans telling us to 'fuck the Germans'! 

 

Don't think the Germans are arsed about England! They do beat England though, whereas you have beaten them quite often. 

 

First time I'd ever been to Anfield that. We were sat in the Centenary right below where the scoreboard and control room are now. Great view for the penalty shoot-out at the Kop end.

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3 minutes ago, lifetime fan said:


The rag have started it already today. 

They will. All that lot will. It's what they do. But they did it during the Rugby World Cup as well, and they'll do it during the Ashes. We don't fuck those teams off - I don't follow Rugby, but I fucking love Cricket and love the Ashes and love twatting the Aussies. I know loads of England fans who are sound - been loads out in the pubs in the City Centre, who have been sound. 

 

Every nationalist and racist in every country is going to follow their national team. 

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Just now, Trumo said:

 

First time I'd ever been to Anfield that. We were sat in the Centenary right below where the scoreboard and control room are now. Great view for the penalty shoot-out at the Kop end.

Nice! I never got to go to any of the games. I wish I had - would have loved to watch the Dutch. 

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1 hour ago, Jockey said:

They will. All that lot will. It's what they do. But they did it during the Rugby World Cup as well, and they'll do it during the Ashes. We don't fuck those teams off - I don't follow Rugby, but I fucking love Cricket and love the Ashes and love twatting the Aussies. I know loads of England fans who are sound - been loads out in the pubs in the City Centre, who have been sound. 

 

Every nationalist and racist in every country is going to follow their national team. 


That was the point being made. 
 

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43 minutes ago, lifetime fan said:


That was the point being made. 
 

I realise that. And I do get what you say and I don't disagree with it. But, this team has pissed a fair few of that lot off - which is why I am less dismissive than previous. I think my point is that national sport brings out nationalism. 

 

I don't care - come 8pm Tuesday I'll be mildly happy or mildly happy, depending upon the result. 

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57 minutes ago, Jockey said:

I realise that. And I do get what you say and I don't disagree with it. But, this team has pissed a fair few of that lot off - which is why I am less dismissive than previous. I think my point is that national sport brings out nationalism. 

 

I don't care - come 8pm Tuesday I'll be mildly happy or mildly happy, depending upon the result. 

Win/ Win for me. 

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At any given time England have always boasted some of the most fearsome attack in Europe in terms of individual talent---Lineker, Barnes, Owen, Gascoigne, Shearer---you name it. But never impressed as a unit. The Germans, or other top teams for that matter, seem to have better harnessed talent into more effective systems, exactly what I believe England have been lacking. What do our so-called jingoists have to say!

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30 minutes ago, therevivalist said:

At any given time England have always boasted some of the most fearsome attack in Europe in terms of individual talent---Lineker, Barnes, Owen, Gascoigne, Shearer---you name it. But never impressed as a unit. The Germans, or other top teams for that matter, seem to have better harnessed talent into more effective systems, exactly what I believe England have been lacking. What do our so-called jingoists have to say!

I think that is part of England's problem - those were not really that fearsome. Barnes really only in 88 - they got trounced. Lineker really only 1990 w Gazza - again not really much from those upfront - penalties aside Linekar had one maybe.

 

The other sides had Klinsmann/Voller/Riedle, Baggio, Maradona, Van Basten etc. around that time.

 

Owen really - 1998 too early, 2000, sucked as did Shearer. 2004 scored twice?

 

That was during - Ronaldo, Del Piero, Batistuta, Vieri etc.

 

England have never been as good as they think they are - this year included.

 

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4 minutes ago, TheHowieLama said:

I think that is part of England's problem - those were not really that fearsome. Barnes really only in 88 - they got trounced. Lineker really only 1990 w Gazza - again not really much from those upfront - penalties aside Linekar had one maybe.

 

The other sides had Klinsmann/Voller/Riedle, Baggio, Maradona, Van Basten etc. around that time.

 

Owen really - 1998 too early, 2000, sucked as did Shearer. 2004 scored twice?

 

That was during - Ronaldo, Del Piero, Batistuta, Vieri etc.

 

England have never been as good as they think they are - this year included.

 

Shearer got the winner against Germany in 2000. If England had prime Shearer and Owen up-front now they'd still be also rans because its what England do.  

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23 hours ago, Special K said:

Have you watched England though?

Great time for England to play Germany and also a great time for Germany to play England. Both have been shite. Nailed on to go to pens. 

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Turned on the TV today at 5pm expecting the first knockout game to be on. Most disappointing.

 

Anyhoo, what we feeling?

 

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No real surprises but I’m going to go for Wales, Italy, Netherlands, Belgium, Spain, France, Germany, Sweden. 

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