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Euro 2020(21)


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5 minutes ago, s(k)aturation said:

not entering into the spirit of things for just a moment either... Johnson is also a very, very good writer.

Shit PM by all accounts, but the bloke can write.

Probably should have stuck to that, maybe, definitely.

 

The most overrated and meaningless hack in that menagerie is Shilton, by some distance.

 

Kinell!  A SHIT writer, a populist who panders to his audience. he tells them what to think.  A very clever man, but a fucking shit writer.  His fiction and non-fiction texts are fucking awful.

 

 

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25 minutes ago, Red_or_Dead said:

Kinell!  A SHIT writer, a populist who panders to his audience. he tells them what to think.  A very clever man, but a fucking shit writer.  His fiction and non-fiction texts are fucking awful.

 

 

 

No they're not... you're confusing his politics, his "facts" and his content with his actual writing ability, in my opinion.  As you say, "a very clever man" and I think that does go for his writing.... 

 

His book on Winston Churchill for instance, was more a work of fiction than fact - for example he called Churchill a fucking socialist at one point - but notwithstanding it is well and entertainingly written, in my book.

And I HATE many aspects of that cunt Churchill with a fair bit of passion I might add. (And he, incidentally, was a good writer too - won a Nobel Prize for it)

 

I write for a living and I think Johnson is a good writer.

But that of course, is only an opinion.

 

You might even doubtless think it's a shit opinion.

And that's fair fucks to you.

 

And one last thing, he really is quite clever if he can "pander to an audience" AND "tell them what to think" at the same time.

 

Perhaps that explains a little why the fucker is where he is.

 

And don't get me wrong, I wish he wasn't Prime Minister of Britain, I really do.

 

I'd much prefer if he were just a writer, that people could take or leave.

 

 

 

 

 

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10 minutes ago, tokyojoe said:

I am just so glad it's all fucking over. Why didn't England just get knocked out in the early stages like they always do and save us all this endless crap?

I feel odd because when people say 'when england are in it its more exciting 'I'm the exact opposite. 

 

Seeing all the videos and reading the horror stories ,that was some small minority on sat.

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27 minutes ago, tokyojoe said:

I am just so glad it's all fucking over. Why didn't England just get knocked out in the early stages like they always do and save us all this endless crap?

 

I just meant you get to hate Spurs, you, a little later than usual.

 

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9 hours ago, s(k)aturation said:

 

No they're not... you're confusing his politics, his "facts" and his content with his actual writing ability, in my opinion.  As you say, "a very clever man" and I think that does go for his writing.... 

 

His book on Winston Churchill for instance, was more a work of fiction than fact - for example he called Churchill a fucking socialist at one point - but notwithstanding it is well and entertainingly written, in my book.

And I HATE many aspects of that cunt Churchill with a fair bit of passion I might add. (And he, incidentally, was a good writer too - won a Nobel Prize for it)

 

I write for a living and I think Johnson is a good writer.

But that of course, is only an opinion.

 

 

Isn't it more likely that whoever tidies up his incoherent drivel is a good writer rather than that Johnson is?

 

And I'm sorry, but I will never except that this guy is intelligent.

 

 

That story is either true and he's such a fucking idiot that he can't articulate what he does at all. Or he's making it up on the spot and that's his idea of something that seems realistic. 

 

Either way, that's not a man who has his shit together and is good at thinking on his feet.

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1 hour ago, Chairman Meow said:

 

Isn't it more likely that whoever tidies up his incoherent drivel is a good writer rather than that Johnson is?

 

And I'm sorry, but I will never except that this guy is intelligent.

 

 

That story is either true and he's such a fucking idiot that he can't articulate what he does at all. Or he's making it up on the spot and that's his idea of something that seems realistic. 

 

Either way, that's not a man who has his shit together and is good at thinking on his feet.

 

Yes, of course, you are right.

People just tidy things up for each other, each and every time as writers.

Are you a writer/editor yourself?

Perhaps Corbyn et al needed one...

 

After all, Francis Bacon tidied things up for Shakespeare.

 

History is definitely on your side.

 

And btw, when you write, you don't usually "think on your feet". You think in your brain and heart, and type... and do it again... and again... and again.

 

But that's just my experience of 35 years' writing for a living.

 

And, as you can see, I'm still shite.

 

So again. touché.  Right you are.

 

Who writes your posts on here?  @Tony Moanero does mine from memory, don't you Tone?

 

28 years ago of course, after Coronation St....

 

 

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One of the organisers of the storming of Wembley by thousands of ticketless fans has defended the widely criticised breach, as more details emerged about the scale of the security lapse.

 

Pablo (not his real name), 24, from the Midlands, was one of the administrators of a Telegram chat group of hundreds of ticketless fans who shared tips about getting into Sunday’s final. Hours before the kick-off those who succeeded advised those still outside on where breaches had been made, he said.

 

Speaking to the Guardian, he gave details of how he and about 300 fans entered via an entrance for disabled visitors in block K, and he claimed others bribed stewards to get in. He estimated that at least 5,000 entered without a ticket.

 

Last week images of real tickets were shared on the chat group, which members used to forge in their own names. Pablo and his friends used such fake tickets to get past a first security check at about 5.15pm. He then regularly checked the Telegram chat for updates on where security had been breached.

 

Pablo drove down from the Midlands with nine ticketless friends in two cars. All but one of them got in to see the game. He took £250 in cash to pay officials but did not need to use it.

 

Members on the chat claim they got in by bribing stewards for as little as £20. One member said he got in after paying a steward £120. In an audio message on the chat heard by the Guardian, the man explained how the steward had told him to “put the money in my pocket as I’m patting you down”. The man said: “It was probably more than he earned on that shift. Money talks.”

 

Pablo said: “A lot of stewards seemed more than willing to help. We offered one £200 to let five of us in. At about quarter to seven we were waiting for the steward’s mate to show up and that’s when we saw a disabled door open so we just ran through.

 

“Every time a disabled entrance was opened there must have been 300 people who got in. And it seemed that every 10 minutes one got yanked open. And that doesn’t count the people who bribed stewards or went behind someone in the turnstiles. I would be shocked if there was less than 5,000 got in without a ticket.”

 

He added: “When we got in everyone was chanting ‘jib, jib, jib’ up the escalators. We found five empty seats. A family came and one of us was sat in their seat and they seemed a bit moody, but we just moved along one and no one else came.”

 

In reference to video showing fans attacking ticketless fans who breached security, Pablo said: “We didn’t harm anyone. The people causing the troublewere the ones fighting ticketless fans.”

 

Asked how Wembley could stop similar breaches Pablo said: “If there were four of five police officers behind each disabled entrance, that would deter people. Stewards aren’t enough to put you off. But Wembley probably won’t be jibbed on that scale again unless we get the World Cup in 2030.”

 

https://www.theguardian.com/football/2021/jul/13/england-fan-who-stormed-euros-final-defends-his-actions

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2 hours ago, Chairman Meow said:

 

Isn't it more likely that whoever tidies up his incoherent drivel is a good writer rather than that Johnson is?

 

And I'm sorry, but I will never except that this guy is intelligent.

 

 

That story is either true and he's such a fucking idiot that he can't articulate what he does at all. Or he's making it up on the spot and that's his idea of something that seems realistic. 

 

Either way, that's not a man who has his shit together and is good at thinking on his feet.

There was a theory that this yarn was a political stunt, so that when people googled "Boris bus", this would come up rather the lies on the Brexit bus. 

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2 hours ago, Chairman Meow said:

 

Isn't it more likely that whoever tidies up his incoherent drivel is a good writer rather than that Johnson is?

 

And I'm sorry, but I will never except that this guy is intelligent.

 

 

That story is either true and he's such a fucking idiot that he can't articulate what he does at all. Or he's making it up on the spot and that's his idea of something that seems realistic. 

 

Either way, that's not a man who has his shit together and is good at thinking on his feet.

He is a pathological liar. That video should be used for people who want to learn the pantomimes as mentioned by Christopher Walken in True Romance. 

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1 hour ago, Poster said:

One of the organisers of the storming of Wembley by thousands of ticketless fans has defended the widely criticised breach, as more details emerged about the scale of the security lapse.

 

Pablo (not his real name), 24, from the Midlands, was one of the administrators of a Telegram chat group of hundreds of ticketless fans who shared tips about getting into Sunday’s final. Hours before the kick-off those who succeeded advised those still outside on where breaches had been made, he said.

 

Speaking to the Guardian, he gave details of how he and about 300 fans entered via an entrance for disabled visitors in block K, and he claimed others bribed stewards to get in. He estimated that at least 5,000 entered without a ticket.

 

Last week images of real tickets were shared on the chat group, which members used to forge in their own names. Pablo and his friends used such fake tickets to get past a first security check at about 5.15pm. He then regularly checked the Telegram chat for updates on where security had been breached.

 

Pablo drove down from the Midlands with nine ticketless friends in two cars. All but one of them got in to see the game. He took £250 in cash to pay officials but did not need to use it.

 

Members on the chat claim they got in by bribing stewards for as little as £20. One member said he got in after paying a steward £120. In an audio message on the chat heard by the Guardian, the man explained how the steward had told him to “put the money in my pocket as I’m patting you down”. The man said: “It was probably more than he earned on that shift. Money talks.”

 

Pablo said: “A lot of stewards seemed more than willing to help. We offered one £200 to let five of us in. At about quarter to seven we were waiting for the steward’s mate to show up and that’s when we saw a disabled door open so we just ran through.

 

“Every time a disabled entrance was opened there must have been 300 people who got in. And it seemed that every 10 minutes one got yanked open. And that doesn’t count the people who bribed stewards or went behind someone in the turnstiles. I would be shocked if there was less than 5,000 got in without a ticket.”

 

He added: “When we got in everyone was chanting ‘jib, jib, jib’ up the escalators. We found five empty seats. A family came and one of us was sat in their seat and they seemed a bit moody, but we just moved along one and no one else came.”

 

In reference to video showing fans attacking ticketless fans who breached security, Pablo said: “We didn’t harm anyone. The people causing the troublewere the ones fighting ticketless fans.”

 

Asked how Wembley could stop similar breaches Pablo said: “If there were four of five police officers behind each disabled entrance, that would deter people. Stewards aren’t enough to put you off. But Wembley probably won’t be jibbed on that scale again unless we get the World Cup in 2030.”

 

https://www.theguardian.com/football/2021/jul/13/england-fan-who-stormed-euros-final-defends-his-actions

Are these the ones who racially abused the black players too?

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1 hour ago, Poster said:

One of the organisers of the storming of Wembley by thousands of ticketless fans has defended the widely criticised breach, as more details emerged about the scale of the security lapse.

 

Pablo (not his real name), 24, from the Midlands, was one of the administrators of a Telegram chat group of hundreds of ticketless fans who shared tips about getting into Sunday’s final. Hours before the kick-off those who succeeded advised those still outside on where breaches had been made, he said.

 

Speaking to the Guardian, he gave details of how he and about 300 fans entered via an entrance for disabled visitors in block K, and he claimed others bribed stewards to get in. He estimated that at least 5,000 entered without a ticket.

 

Last week images of real tickets were shared on the chat group, which members used to forge in their own names. Pablo and his friends used such fake tickets to get past a first security check at about 5.15pm. He then regularly checked the Telegram chat for updates on where security had been breached.

 

Pablo drove down from the Midlands with nine ticketless friends in two cars. All but one of them got in to see the game. He took £250 in cash to pay officials but did not need to use it.

 

Members on the chat claim they got in by bribing stewards for as little as £20. One member said he got in after paying a steward £120. In an audio message on the chat heard by the Guardian, the man explained how the steward had told him to “put the money in my pocket as I’m patting you down”. The man said: “It was probably more than he earned on that shift. Money talks.”

 

Pablo said: “A lot of stewards seemed more than willing to help. We offered one £200 to let five of us in. At about quarter to seven we were waiting for the steward’s mate to show up and that’s when we saw a disabled door open so we just ran through.

 

“Every time a disabled entrance was opened there must have been 300 people who got in. And it seemed that every 10 minutes one got yanked open. And that doesn’t count the people who bribed stewards or went behind someone in the turnstiles. I would be shocked if there was less than 5,000 got in without a ticket.”

 

He added: “When we got in everyone was chanting ‘jib, jib, jib’ up the escalators. We found five empty seats. A family came and one of us was sat in their seat and they seemed a bit moody, but we just moved along one and no one else came.”

 

In reference to video showing fans attacking ticketless fans who breached security, Pablo said: “We didn’t harm anyone. The people causing the troublewere the ones fighting ticketless fans.”

 

Asked how Wembley could stop similar breaches Pablo said: “If there were four of five police officers behind each disabled entrance, that would deter people. Stewards aren’t enough to put you off. But Wembley probably won’t be jibbed on that scale again unless we get the World Cup in 2030.”

 

https://www.theguardian.com/football/2021/jul/13/england-fan-who-stormed-euros-final-defends-his-actions

So shithouse cunts taking advantage of facilities for the less able bodied fans to storm the stadium? Utter, utter cunts if true and they need sending down if caught.

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