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We Need a New Striker - Who?


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Might be my memory playing tricks on me but compared to the late 90s/early noughties the strikers around now seem a bit shite. 

 

Just in the pram you had Fowler, Owen, Shearer, Ferdinand, Sheringham, Cole, Wright, Vialli, Ravanelli, Yorke, Phillips, Henry etc. That's before you start thinking about Ronaldo, Batistuta, Baggio, Totti, Shevchenko, Crespo, Montella, Salas, Vieri. You could go on and on. 

 

Anyway I'm saying invent a time machine and sign Ronaldo from PSV and Shevchenko from Kiev. 

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54 minutes ago, Street Preacher said:

Might be my memory playing tricks on me but compared to the late 90s/early noughties the strikers around now seem a bit shite. 

 

Just in the pram you had Fowler, Owen, Shearer, Ferdinand, Sheringham, Cole, Wright, Vialli, Ravanelli, Yorke, Phillips, Henry etc. That's before you start thinking about Ronaldo, Batistuta, Baggio, Totti, Shevchenko, Crespo, Montella, Salas, Vieri. You could go on and on. 

 

Anyway I'm saying invent a time machine and sign Ronaldo from PSV and Shevchenko from Kiev. 

Some list that 

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Surely Andrea Belotti. He looked like he be the best striker in the world 5 years ago but a couple of bad injuries meant he stagnated but now, at 27, looks the same player as 5 years back but with more savvy.

 

he’s the proper number 9 we need, great link up, furious left foot, the physicality of a Shearer with the deft touch of Bobby, plus loyal one Club man whose contract is up in 2022. Torres with balls.

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1 minute ago, JoeBuck01 said:

Surely Andrea Belotti. He looked like he be the best striker in the world 5 years ago but a couple of bad injuries meant he stagnated but now, at 27, looks the same player as 5 years back but with more savvy.

 

he’s the proper number 9 we need, great link up, furious left foot, the physicality of a Shearer with the deft touch of Bobby, plus loyal one Club man whose contract is up in 2022. Torres with balls.

Not a bad shout, but I think he's meant to be a bit of a donkey. Not sure about the having a great touch part.

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2 hours ago, Anubis said:

Conversation at work (not the office) today:

 

Blue: “Harry Kane, eh?”

 

Me: “What about him?”

 

Blue: “Rumour is that he’s going to Liverpool.”

 

I am yet to find any such rumour beyond Fowler suggesting we buy him in the press.

Fast-forward to the transfer window, when we obviously don't sign Kane and the same Bloo will be giving it "WAAAH! Youse lot all thought you were signing Harry Kane!"

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I like Patrick Bamford, a really clever footballer... but he’s older than I thought he’d be.

 

Raul Jimenez is a good shout, but he’s turning 30 next month.

 

It’s never going to happen, but Dominic Calvert-Lewin would fit the bill. Strong as an ox, great in the air, his finishing needs work but he’s still young. 

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Plays number 9 for Italy in a Christian Vieri role....target man who can turn a defender with strength and score, as well as an innate instinct  in the penalty area...he’s the perfect foil for Salah & Mane / Jota.

 

we don’t need a Mane / Jota type mobile forward like Malen  or Daka....we need a proper number 9 version of Bobby, but someone who could actually score.  The best strikers who could do this are Belotti, Andre Silva and err, Patrick Bamford.

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6 minutes ago, JoeBuck01 said:

I would love Bamford....Biesla saw something in him to link his game plan together..imagine what he would do with better players. His contract is also up in 2022 and he’s only 27, the perfect age for that role.

If he had been 24-25, would’ve been perfect. He’s a lovely footballer though. Seems a good sort as well.

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Defo..my favourite journo and good red,  Jonathan Northcroft, wrote a great piece on Bamford a month back questioning why he wasn’t challenging Kane for the England team and what a great bloke Bamford is. ...softly spoken Public School kid who has some fine socialist views. 
 

Kenny came when he was 27, Aldo likewise... the role he plays we could get easily 4-5 years out of him, plus he’s super fit as he needs to be as Bielsa’s pressing number 9.

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5 hours ago, Bjornebye said:

Origi has to be on his way this summer. Who do we bring in? Mbappe, Haaland... nah no chance especially without CL football next season if we don't qualify. 

 

What decent striking options are out there? Will Klopp even want a proper CF? 

Seeing as his most recent, recordbreaking successes (with us) has been built on a system playing without one, I'd put that down as a firm(i)NO...

 

Klopp's "high octane football" has had several tweaks during the Dortmund and Liverpool days, but winning the ball back high up the pitch has been (from what I've seen and read) close to the top of the list of common themes. To do so he's mostly deployed a 4-3-3 formation (almost exclusively with us). Since the plan is to win the ball high up the pitch, the 3 at the front of this formation MUST be good pressers of the ball (It's why I never understood why we signed a new contract with Origi, as he's among the worst in the squad at it, and similarly why I fancied Jota to be a success for us, as it's something he excels at). In his time here, Firmino has one of the first names on the teamsheet, and in my view, this is just as much because of his defensive qualities as his attacking qualities. Having played centreback himself (up till the age of 19 I believe), Bobby's instincts of getting the ball off a defender are better than most other forward players. At his best, I think there's probably only Lewandowski Klopp would have possibly traded Bobby for. I strongly believe we will continue to play a 4-3-3 in the future with Klopp, as that is the best way of blocking the opposition's passing lanes (and winning the ball back)

 

Another reason why Firmino is still starting; As long as we play with quick, inverted wingers (since Salah's arrival), our CF MUST be just as adept with his back to goal as with his face towards it (perhaps even more). Why? To drag the defenders towards our goal, creating space for the wingers to run in behind, or play short one-twos with the wingers and/or one of the MFs supporting the attack. To create space in football, the one constant is to have runs in opposite (or near opposite) directions. It's why it nearly always fails when managers just throws every attacker on the pitch when they want to chase goals. They just end up running the same lanes and everybody wants to attack a space that's not really there. Granted, if you lump a couple big CF's (or someone like Fellaini) in and create chaos with crosses, you might fluke a goal here and there. Having that as the main source for goals (like Mourinho's Utd team a few seasons back), no thank you.

 

I think we stick with what we've got. Getting crowds and our superfast CB's back (and hopefully a pre-season will cure the tiredness of the midfield as well) will solve a lot of the problems we're facing at the minute. If intensity is going to be our identity in the close future as well, I can't see Klopp doing major upheavals of what he's preached in the past 5 years.

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Not a number 9, but an attacking midfielder/winger.

 

I like the look of that Buendia at Norwich.

 

Only 24 and looks like he might have a very high ceiling.

 

Could be a good addition to our squad - get more from him than Oxlade or Shaqiri i reckon.

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