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Five English clubs are among 11 European teams who have signed up to a breakaway Super League in an extraordinary development on the eve of Uefa’s announcement of a new Champions League format.

Manchester United, Liverpool, Arsenal, Chelsea and Tottenham Hotspur have signed up to the breakaway plan with only Manchester City among the Big Six yet to do so, sources with knowledge of the development have told The Times.

The Super League development is a direct challenge to Uefa which is to announce its new 36-team Champions League format on Monday, to come into force from 2024. The European governing body had thought it had seen off the threat of a breakaway but is now involved in urgent talks with other football bodies about the new development.

Uefa had succeeded in winning the support of the European Club Association (ECA) board and the European Leagues but it emerged today that the Super League threat had been revived with the ECA chairman Andrea Agnelli, also the Juventus president, appearing to throw his hat in with the breakaway clubs led by Manchester United and Real Madrid.

 

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If the Super League clubs do not back down then the dispute is likely to end up in courts given that Uefa and Fifa have promised to ban any clubs and players who take part in breakaway competitions from their tournaments such as the Euros and the World Cup.

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The Super League proposals include:

- The 15 founder clubs sharing an initial 3.5billion (£3.1billion) euro “infrastructure grant” ranging from £310million to £89million per club which can be spent on stadiums, training facilities or “to replace lost stadium-related revenues due to Covid-19”.

- The format would see two groups of 10 clubs who play home and away, with the top four from each group going through to two-legged quarter-finals, semi-finals and a one-legged final.

- Matches would be midweek and clubs would still play in domestic leagues

- Clubs would have rights to show four matches a season on their own the digital platforms across the world
 
- Income from TV and sponsorship would favour the founding clubs: 32.5% of the pot would be shared equally between the 15 clubs, and another 32.5% between all Super League clubs including the five qualifiers

 - 20% of the pot would be merit money “distributed in the same manner as the current English Premier League merit-based system” according to where clubs finish in the competition or group if they don’t make the knock-out stage

- The remaining 15% would a “commercial share based on club awareness”

- A cap of 55% of revenues permitted to be spent on salaries and transfers (net)

- A ‘Financial Sustainability Group’ would monitor clubs’ spending

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10 minutes ago, Grinch said:

Another nail in the coffin. 

Possibly. Yet if it caps spending (and causes a precedent that is subsequently adopted by domestic leagues) more effectively than UEFA’s botched FFP, it would be hard not to feel as though they’ve caused their own downfall.

 

I can’t see the threatened ban on players competing internationally holding up in court. Even if it did, that would just cause a further schism and, if anything, probably lead to the creation of a new World Cup leaving the existing one to wither and die like a BDO darts world championship of football.

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I'm open to considering any proposal which allows clubs to build on their success by generating income which allows them to compete at the top level. The long-term alternative is for the status quo to get even more perverted as only the mega-rich will be able to compete. It won't be long before the Saudis buy Newcastle or some other club and we'll be stuck competing for fourth again or praying for some Jurgen-like miracle to turn up and allow us to challenge.

If the choice is between oil states, corrupt oligarchs or a more Euro-heavy season which gives our FSG-type ownership model a prospect of success then it's an easy one for me. 

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The only way I'd be behind a breakaway league is if it's a kick up the arse to UEFA and the Premier League to get their shit together - e.g. by employing competent referees. Sadly this just looks like a massive cash grab for the bigger clubs.

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34 minutes ago, aws said:

I'm open to considering any proposal which allows clubs to build on their success by generating income which allows them to compete at the top level. The long-term alternative is for the status quo to get even more perverted as only the mega-rich will be able to compete. It won't be long before the Saudis buy Newcastle or some other club and we'll be stuck competing for fourth again or praying for some Jurgen-like miracle to turn up and allow us to challenge.

If the choice is between oil states, corrupt oligarchs or a more Euro-heavy season which gives our FSG-type ownership model a prospect of success then it's an easy one for me. 

Indeed. I’ve never quite understood the notion that FFP - as a concept - is a terrible thing because, supposedly, it stops clubs from joining the top table.
 

It smacks of people thinking that one day their club will get bought by an oil state and therefore be able to spend as much as they want, which is ridiculous on two levels - one, your goal is to be given the opportunity to cheat to win and two, your club is almost certainly not going to be bought by a sheik or oligarch! It’s football’s version of the US Republican voter whose existence is predicated on the notion that they’re a millionaire in waiting.

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Just leave the fucking game alone! Fuck VAR and fuck all this new bollocks. Oh and City aren't 'Big 6' they are lottery winning wankers who nobody is even arsed about. Wankers

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Whatever it's meant to be, and whether we've signed up to it or not, the key part in all of this is that we as a club are not seen as the main driving force behind it, as happened with Project Big Picture. The Mancs were as involved as we were with that, but they managed to portray themselves as simply following our lead when the shit hit the fan with the media. We're always going to be seen as one of the main players for a breakaway league but that is preferable to being viewed as the instigator.

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44 minutes ago, Bjornebye said:

Just leave the fucking game alone! Fuck VAR and fuck all this new bollocks. Oh and City aren't 'Big 6' they are lottery winning wankers who nobody is even arsed about. Wankers

Wholeheartedly agree but they aren't going anywhere and was said above, the likelihood is that another small team like Newcastle or the bitters will be bought out by another oil cheating cunt of a regime, and we'll be the also rans again. 

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It’ll just be another CL reform and the story will go away again.

 

They could easily get round all this by ditching the EL and doubling the size of the CL.

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Bring it on. Hopefully these clubs will say to the players you sign for us and you fuck off international call ups. We pays the money and you dance to our tune.

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1 minute ago, Freddo said:

Only saw it on twitter. Think it was attributed to the athletic that Barcelona and psg aren't backing it. Who knows. 


There have been other reports to the contrary.

 

Teams are: Liverpool, Man Utd, Tottenham, Chelsea, Arsenal, Juventus, Inter, AC Milan, Barcelona, Real Madrid and Atletico.

 

No surprise to see City and PSG attempting to avoid it given the spending restrictions.

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1 minute ago, TheDrowningMan said:


There have been other reports to the contrary.

 

Teams are: Liverpool, Man Utd, Tottenham, Chelsea, Arsenal, Juventus, Inter, AC Milan, Barcelona, Real Madrid and Atletico.

 

No surprise to see City and PSG attempting to avoid it given the spending restrictions.

city have agreed to join in apparently. Despite what they say, barcelona wont want to be left behind. Bayern plus another German club, maybe two will be invited.

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From BBC;

 

Premier League condemns Super League proposal

The Premier League has just released a statement criticising English clubs who want to sign up for a European Super League (which reportedly includes Manchester United).

"The Premier League condemns any proposal that attacks the principles of open competition and sporting merit which are at the heart of the domestic and European football pyramid," it says.

"Fans of any club in England and across Europe can currently dream that their team may climb to the top and play against the best. We believe that the concept of a European Super League would destroy this dream."

 

 

Now a joint statement from several different official organisations criticining these new proposals...

"UEFA, the English Football Association and the Premier League, the Royal Spanish Football Federation (RFEF) and LaLiga, and the Italian Football Federation (FIGC) and Lega Serie A have learned that a few English, Spanish and Italian clubs may be planning to announce their creation of a closed, so-called Super League," it reads.

"If this were to happen, we wish to reiterate that we – UEFA, the English FA, RFEF, FIGC, the Premier League, LaLiga, Lega Serie A, but also FIFA and all our member associations - will remain united in our efforts to stop this cynical project, a project that is founded on the self-interest of a few clubs at a time when society needs solidarity more than ever."

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The way I see it is, the Premier League perennial relegation fighter clubs plus those that repeatedly bounce between the PL and Championship have too much power not the so called 'big 6' or whatever.

 

It's clubs like Newcastle, Burnley, plus the Watfords, Norwich, Sheffield United's etc that repeated thwart changes to tv distribution rights, own club tv deals, 5 subs, being made up clubs involved in Europe have to play them little more than 48 hours later in some cases.

 

Changes are coming.

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6 minutes ago, Scooby Dudek said:

From BBC;

 

Premier League condemns Super League proposal

The Premier League has just released a statement criticising English clubs who want to sign up for a European Super League (which reportedly includes Manchester United).

"The Premier League condemns any proposal that attacks the principles of open competition and sporting merit which are at the heart of the domestic and European football pyramid," it says.

"Fans of any club in England and across Europe can currently dream that their team may climb to the top and play against the best. We believe that the concept of a European Super League would destroy this dream."

 

Blah blah blah "...a project that is founded on the self-interest of a few clubs at a time when society needs solidarity more than ever."

Yes because we all know how much they care.  

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