Russia v Ukraine

[ZonkoVille77]

1 hour ago, Gnasher said:

 

 

 

 

They're all too busy hiding out in Ireland in their Audi's and BMW's.

[TheSire]

12 hours ago, SasaS said:

It looks like they will be withdrawing from Avdivka by the end of the week.

Hopefully, they're almost encircled now and can't even fire any shells as ammo is that short. I think the military is about 1m strong but they're dangerously low on ammo now. The failure of offshoring western industry eh!

[SasaS]

2 hours ago, TheSire said:

Hopefully, they're almost encircled now and can't even fire any shells as ammo is that short. I think the military is about 1m strong but they're dangerously low on ammo now. The failure of offshoring western industry eh!

 

I'd say Russia is about a year ahead of the West in basics now so Ukraine needs to focus on staying in the game this year. Hopefully they can further accelerate their own production too, which was always the key to me. I can never understand why it all has to move at a snail's pace.

[TheHowieLama]

Russian landing ship Tsezar Kunikov hit in Black Sea, it has sunk – intelligence sources, photo, video

Drones of Defence Intelligence of Ukraine (DIU) have struck the Russian landing ship Tsezar Kunikov in the Black Sea on the morning of 14 February.

The vessel is 112.5 metres long, 15 metres wide and has a draft of 3.7 metres. The warship has the following weapons: 2x2 57-mm AK-725 artillery pieces, 4x8 launchers of man-portable air defence systems, and 2x30 122-mm A-215 Grad-M multiple rocket launchers.

There are 87 crew members.

Ukraine claims it has now disabled a third of Russia’s Black Sea Fleet.

 

[SasaS]

Speaking of how long, RUSI analyst thinks Ukraine will need two years of sustained assistance before it can expect Russia to start having all sorts of problems. Apparently, they have 470,000 troops in Ukraine, which begs the question (for me) where are those 1.1 million Ukrainian soldiers Budanov said they had a month or so ago. Journalist Korshak wrote in his last piece on Zhaluzny's replacement they apparently have 300,000 troops sitting in the west Ukraine.  

 

https://www.rusi.org/explore-our-research/publications/commentary/russian-military-objectives-and-capacity-ukraine-through-2024

[TheHowieLama]

9 minutes ago, SasaS said:

Speaking of how long, RUSI analyst thinks Ukraine will need two years of sustained assistance before it can expect Russia to start having all sorts of problems. Apparently, they have 470,000 troops in Ukraine, which begs the question (for me) where are those 1.1 million Ukrainian soldiers Budanov said they had a month or so ago. Journalist Korshak wrote in his last piece on Zhaluzny's replacement they apparently have 300,000 troops sitting in the west Ukraine.  

 

https://www.rusi.org/explore-our-research/publications/commentary/russian-military-objectives-and-capacity-ukraine-through-2024

 

It will be a relatively event less stalemate until November imo.

Then the war will either be over very quickly or Ukraine will have greatly increased aid.

[SasaS]

15 minutes ago, TheHowieLama said:

 

It will be a relatively event less stalemate until November imo.

Then the war will either be over very quickly or Ukraine will have greatly increased aid.

 

I don't think what is happening now cam be called an eventless stalemate, Russia is in full blown offensive at the moment and it will continue for some time. 

[TheHowieLama]

2 minutes ago, SasaS said:

 

I don't think what is happening now cam be called an eventless stalemate, Russia is in full blown offensive at the moment and it will continue for some time. 

 

I think that is what we said last time.

[Edward.]

Speaking to someone who lives In Dnipro over the weekend who said unless there is a miracle Ukraine will be torn to pieces.

[TheHowieLama]

Just now, Edward. said:

Speaking to someone who lives In Dnipro over the weekend who said unless there is a miracle Ukraine will be torn to pieces.

 

I think that is what we said last time.

[Edward.]

She didn’t she was confident of victory.

[SasaS]

17 minutes ago, Edward. said:

She didn’t she was confident of victory.

 

So she is prone to wild swings and dramatic statements?

[TheHowieLama]

21 minutes ago, SasaS said:

 

So she is prone to wild swings and dramatic statements?

 

I reckon a couple years of being bombarded by a superpower while watching the global community slowly but surely become indifferent could change a gal's mindset.

[Edward.]

26 minutes ago, SasaS said:

 

So she is prone to wild swings and dramatic statements?

Maybe something was lost in the translation. I’m no expert. 

[Gnasher]

51 minutes ago, Edward. said:

Speaking to someone who lives In Dnipro over the weekend who said unless there is a miracle Ukraine will be torn to pieces.

 

Bloody hell. I don't the allies will let that happen, surely.

[SasaS]

5 minutes ago, TheHowieLama said:

 

I reckon a couple years of being bombarded by a superpower while watching the global community slowly but surely become indifferent could change a gal's mindset.

 

2 minutes ago, Edward. said:

Maybe something was lost in the translation. I’m no expert. 

 

I know things are bad at the moment, but I don't think they are quite torn-to-pieces bad yet.

[Edward.]

18 minutes ago, SasaS said:

 

 

I know things are bad at the moment, but I don't think they are quite torn-to-pieces bad yet.

She did say barring a miracle. It does sound from what her and her family are telling me that things are pretty horrendous. 

[Gnasher]

24 minutes ago, Edward. said:

She did say barring a miracle. It does sound from what her and her family are telling me that things are pretty horrendous. 

 

Don't worry about first hand information from the ground over Ukraine mate  if our armchair generals on a football forum say its all fine and dandy over then who are others to argue? 

 

In all seriousness I'm sure they'll be fine.

[Edward.]

1 minute ago, Gnasher said:

 

Don't worry about first hand information from the ground over Ukraine mate  if our armchair generals on a football forum say its all fine and dandy over then who are others to argue? 

 

In all seriousness I'm sure they'll be fine.

I hope so. They do try and live life as normally as possible under the circumstances despite the rockets and constant sirens sitting in the basement at school. We did receive a valentines card this morning from their 13 year old daughter so I’m sure things can’t be too bad.

[Section_31]

4 hours ago, Gnasher said:

 

Don't worry about first hand information from the ground over Ukraine mate  if our armchair generals on a football forum say its all fine and dandy over then who are others to argue? 

 

In all seriousness I'm sure they'll be fine.

 

Don't think anyone has ever said that, they've said Russia was wrong to invade and Ukraine is right to defend itself. Only you, Gnasher,  would use the idea of Ukrainians suffering to attack Ukraine/The West and not the Russians for actually, you know, causing it.

 

Ukraine should surrender, bastards putting their people through all this needless war stuff. Twats.

 

Anyway, good news about that Russian ship.

 

 

[Strontium]

On 13/02/2024 at 16:30, TheSire said:

QI don't really see why he has to be asked tough questions. What does he need to be quizzed for? Their country was invaded, is Zelensky supposed to have done something wrong?

 

Just existing is enough for some people to get angry.

[Bjornebye]

I think if a country is invaded, the international community should be backing them against the oppressors. 

[Gnasher]

23 minutes ago, Section_31 said:

 

Don't think anyone has ever said that, they've said Russia was wrong to invade and Ukraine is right to defend itself. Only you, Gnasher,  would use the idea of Ukrainians suffering to attack Ukraine/The West and not the Russians for actually, you know, causing it.

 

Ukraine should surrender, bastards putting their people through all this needless war stuff. Twats.

 

Anyway, good news about that Russian ship.

 

 

 

An awful lot of strange shit going on in that post. 

[Gnasher]

On 13/02/2024 at 16:30, TheSire said:

QI don't really see why he has to be asked tough questions. What does he need to be quizzed for? Their country was invaded, is Zelensky supposed to have done something wrong?

 

Didn't 40 million or so go missing? Didn't the main man in the Ukrainian army just resign? 

 

Of course people are going to ask questions.

[SasaS]

53 minutes ago, Gnasher said:

 

Didn't 40 million or so go missing? Didn't the main man in the Ukrainian army just resign? 

 

Of course people are going to ask questions.

 

I thought you would ask him how come it took Russia two days to get to Mariupol from Crimea. And why was the bridge still standing when they rolled into Kherson at the same time.