Russia v Ukraine

[M_B]

Hardly a surprise. Putin is only leaving office in a coffin.

[Captain Turdseye]

When’s this interview coming out? Fuck sake, Tucker. 

[Mudface]

1 hour ago, Captain Turdseye said:

When’s this interview coming out? Fuck sake, Tucker. 

 

Tucker's dead, mate.

[TheHowieLama]

Nah - they're filming Weekend at Tucker's as we speak.

[Gnasher]

On 29/01/2024 at 18:56, Gnasher said:

 

 

 

 

 

Just been sacked. Seems this and other journos were right 

[SasaS]

Zelensky can go in the summer.

[TheSire]

1 hour ago, Gnasher said:

 

Just been sacked. Seems this and other journos were right 

I don't remember anyone particularly arguing over that in particular, not off the top of my head anyway. It may be a bad move as Zaluhzny seemed to be well respected in the military. Not sure what's behind this tbh, quite a bold move.

[Gnasher]

48 minutes ago, TheSire said:

I don't remember anyone particularly arguing over that in particular, not off the top of my head anyway. It may be a bad move as Zaluhzny seemed to be well respected in the military. Not sure what's behind this tbh, quite a bold move.

 

I know. I thought it might have been speculation.

 

I read that article; I enjoyed it. Still not sure I understand the reasons behind this though, or what it'll mean. 

[SasaS]

Nobody fully knows the real reasons, there has only been various speculations for months. It's bad for morale but nobody's bigger than the club and all that. Hopefully there is not much dissent in the military over this.

 

It's more important how quickly the assistance can be back on track and how quickly they can continue developing their own production capabilities,

[M_B]

The writing was on the wall. 

 

It's a brave move. Zelensky will be blamed if 2024 goes South on the battlefield.

[Red Phoenix]

12 hours ago, TheSire said:

I don't know, maybe Russia could just withdraw back to Russia and stop systematically torturing and abusing civilians. Don't kid yourself that there's some special complexity and nuance to any of this. Sometimes things are exactly as they appear, minus conspiracies and special meaning.

 

I don't think any war that our governments and media are obsessed with is ever exactly how it appears. So yeah it's likely there is some nuance to some of this and I can have that view whilst still opposing Russia bombing the crap out of and invading Ukraine.

[Red Phoenix]

6 hours ago, Captain Turdseye said:

When’s this interview coming out? Fuck sake, Tucker. 

 

I've seen people on twitter saying it's out at 11pm over here. Not sure if that's right or not though.

 

And for those of you thinking I'm enjoying all of this : I'm supposed to be playing Yakuza 8 here and this has been cutting into my gaming time, that's not something I've really enjoyed. Tucker and Putin have had bad timing with this interview.

[Red Phoenix]

It's on his site now and over 2 hours long, was hoping it'd be way shorter than that.

 

There's also timestamps below the video so anyone can see what subjects they're talking about then click straight to it if needed : https://tuckercarlson.com/the-vladimir-putin-interview/

 

 

[M_B]

The first 30 mins is a tiresome historical big-me-up that started to feel like Hitler's Lebensraum argument - Putin wants you to think he's intelligent. I found myself skipping through it and I shouldn't so I'll give it more time tomorrow. To be fair to Carlson, he does warn you about it at the beginning.

[M_B]

 

 

"Russia is not an expansionist power" according to Carlson at 4:24. Jesus Christ, what a dick.

[Red Phoenix]

59 minutes ago, M_B said:

The first 30 mins is a tiresome historical big-me-up that started to feel like Hitler's Lebensraum argument - Putin wants you to think he's intelligent. I found myself skipping through it and I shouldn't so I'll give it more time tomorrow. To be fair to Carlson, he does warn you about it at the beginning.

 

Haha, I avoided the first half when looking at timestamps and started from "a peaceful solution" then watched to the end. Not sure if I'll watch the first half but might watch bits later. I don't think there was much I'd not heard or read of before, he did mention more than once though that Johnson had gone over there and fucked up peace talks. Maybe in the future we'll understand more on what happened there.

[Ne Moe Imya]

Tucker must be devastated.

If there's one thing he does actually understand, it's how to manipulate dumb people. And the key to that is ... definitely NOT 45 minutes of boring historical minutiae.

 

 

[polymerpunkah]

When he was discussing that history, did Putin mention Stalin and Russia's starving millions of Ukrainians to death in the 1930s?

 

[M_B]

4 hours ago, polymerpunkah said:

When he was discussing that history, did Putin mention Stalin and Russia's starving millions of Ukrainians to death in the 1930s?

 

 

No, and Carlson rarely questioned his narrative. In fact Carlson may as well have not been there - I've only watched half so far, but it seems to be just a 2 hour guided speech.

 

Was that Carlson's plan? I hope so, otherwise he has just exposed himself as a truly incompetent journalist. But then, we knew that already right? That's why Putin agreed to it. 

[Section_31]

Useful idiot is actually a Russian term isn't it?

[Captain Turdseye]

I haven’t got two hours for that shit. 
 

Thanks for nothing, Tucker. 

[Section_31]

I installed the US president and delivered Brexit and killed a British citizen on British soil with a nerve agent, yet it's the west that are the aggressors, boo-fucking-hoo.

 

I hope Nato collapses when Trump gets in and Germany are like 'fuck this' and build 100,000 Panzer tanks. Klopp is conscripted and becomes Field Marshall Von Klopp and the Germans just invade Russia again. I hope he installs Rafa as his number 2, Generalisimo Rafa, principal viceroy of Caldy.  

 

"The Russians in this moment don't have any tanks left to be honest."

"For sure - they have no possibilities."

 

Job done. 

[TheHowieLama]

[Captain Turdseye]

I put it on earlier and I was out cold after 20 minutes. Good job I had an alarm set. 

[TheHowieLama]