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Russia v Ukraine


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12 minutes ago, Boss said:

When you're handing out AK47's and molotov cocktail recipes to civilians that have never used a weapon in their lives you know you've fucked up somewhere along the line. Why would a civilian risk their lives against Russian Spetznaz forces? It's a suicide mission. And the American teenagers posting things like the Anarchist's Cookbook on Reddit (thinking they're helping people) are going to cause a bunch of Ukrainians to blow their own arms off trying to make that shit.

That’s an interesting way of describing a country who are effectively David taking on Goliath.

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13 minutes ago, Boss said:

When you're handing out AK47's and molotov cocktail recipes to civilians that have never used a weapon in their lives you know you've fucked up somewhere along the line. Why would a civilian risk their lives against Russian Spetznaz forces? It's a suicide mission. And the American teenagers posting things like the Anarchist's Cookbook on Reddit (thinking they're helping people) are going to cause a bunch of Ukrainians to blow their own arms off trying to make that shit.

Keiv is apparently the gun capital of Europe.

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56 minutes ago, Pureblood said:

Well, they're not going to win if they continue fighting.  Isn't it better to enter talks and salvage what they can?

 

It's hard to put oneself in that position, but I think I'd prefer it rather than being given a Molotov cocktail and told "off you go". 


Nah, better to die on your feet than live on your knees

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Ok fuckface, chat shit season is over. 

Firstly, someone find this Maria bitch and chuck her into a volcano. 

Second, give fair warning to the Russian people that either they get their cunt president strung up, or we're going to leave a crater where their cities currently stand.  Also get the Pope to tell them they're all going to hell. 

 

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I've heard stupid suggestions like telling Ukrainians to throw Molotov cocktails at the top of Russian tanks - because that's where they're most vulnerable. They don't have any idea what they're talking about. A Molotov cocktail will do nothing to a Russian tank except reveal your position and get you shelled into several pieces.

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You don't need to be holding the Molotov. You have a million fucking soldiers. You are defending a city of 3 million people. You can use 10,000 buildings as fortifications. You have a fucking river flowing through the middle of the city. You can block the roads. You can hit armour not protected by infantry in the city from all directions with RPGs and light anti-tank artillery. You can use anti-tank mines, you can quickly pull them across the street if you tied them together, If the streets are narrow you can throw cumulative hand grenades from the roofs and balconies.

That is like basic training urban combat day one.

 

 

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4 minutes ago, SasaS said:

You don't need to be holding the Molotov. You have a million fucking soldiers. You are defending a city of 3 million people. You can use 10,000 buildings as fortifications. You have a fucking river flowing through the middle of the city. You can block the roads. You can hit armour not protected by infantry in the city from all directions with RPGs and light anti-tank artillery. You can use anti-tank mines, you can quickly pull them across the street if you tied them together, If the streets are narrow you can throw cumulative hand grenades from the roofs and balconies.

That is like basic training urban combat day one.

 

 

Are you proposing using civilians as human shields for the Ukrainian forces while they take on Putin's army then?

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1 minute ago, dockers_strike said:

Are you proposing using civilians as human shields for the Ukrainian forces while they take on Putin's army then?

You don't need to use civilians as human shields, you move civilians out of the way towards the center of the town, to the shelters and cellars. You defend your lines, then you withdraw and hit them from the flanks if you can. You fight for every street, make them fight for every building if necessary. Especially if you have the manpower. I takes at least 3 times the number of defenders to take a big city. Even with total air dominance.

 

Do you have any kind of military training in UK, people? Has no one been in the army? Have you read anything about any military tactic?

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There's a reason why the Spartans were the most feared of the ancient warriors. You either create a culture of war and patriotism where the army is celebrated and the men of fighting age learn real combat training from a young age, or you create a culture where your men drink lattes and muse about the offence caused by not using a persons preferred personal pronoun. You can't just suddenly hand out AK47's to a bunch of soyboys and expect them to turn into Rambo.

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6 minutes ago, Boss said:

There's a reason why the Spartans were the most feared of the ancient warriors. You either create a culture of war and patriotism where the army is celebrated and the men of fighting age learn real combat training from a young age, or you create a culture where your men drink lattes and muse about the offence caused by not using a persons preferred personal pronoun. You can't just suddenly hand out AK47's to a bunch of soyboys and expect them to turn into Rambo.

Get on to Laurence Fox, here. Spouting shite. 

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A limited invasion leading to negotiations and a change in government/commitment not to join NATO?

 

I can't figure out why he'd invade and take over the country.

 

Even if they wouldn't meet with the same level/type of opposition as they did in Afghanistan, occupying powers rarely enjoy themselves much.

 

 

 

 

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3 hours ago, Boss said:

There's a reason why the Spartans were the most feared of the ancient warriors. You either create a culture of war and patriotism where the army is celebrated and the men of fighting age learn real combat training from a young age, or you create a culture where your men drink lattes and muse about the offence caused by not using a persons preferred personal pronoun. You can't just suddenly hand out AK47's to a bunch of soyboys and expect them to turn into Rambo.

 

Alright there, Tucker, how many "soyboys" do you think they're are in Ukraine? Three current and former World heavyweight champions have already joined up to fight ffs.

 

It's one thing taking Kiev, it's another being embroiled in a long standing dirty ground war in a massive country where the population will resist at every turn.

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