Russia v Ukraine

[Red Phoenix]

1 minute ago, Captain Howdy said:

Have you ever considered stand up ?  

 

Why, because Ukraine could be shelling their own plant because Russian troops are there? Nope.

[Numero Veinticinco]

20 minutes ago, Red Phoenix said:

Nuclear power stations are such a great idea.

 

...until you get one in the area of of a war zone being shelled regularly.

Hospitals are such a good idea

 

...until you're in one when a nuke goes off. 

[Red Phoenix]

13 minutes ago, Captain Howdy said:

Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha 

 

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UN secretary-general, António Guterres, called for an immediate end to military activity near the Zaporizhzhia nuclear power plant in Ukraine, Europe’s largest.

“I am calling on the military forces of the Russian Federation and Ukraine to immediately cease all military activities in the immediate vicinity of the plant and not to target its facilities or surroundings,” he said in a statement on Thursday.

 

 

Guardian updates

 

Why did he include Ukraine military forces?

[Red Phoenix]

1 minute ago, Numero Veinticinco said:

Hospitals are such a good idea

 

...until you're in one when a nuke goes off. 

 

That'd be the nuke causing the damage though. In this case the thing being hit could cause by far the worst damage, not the weapons hitting it.

[Captain Howdy]

7 minutes ago, Red Phoenix said:

 

 

Guardian updates

 

Why did he include Ukraine military forces?

Don’t know, I’m sure you’ll be able to tell me. 

[Numero Veinticinco]

Just now, Red Phoenix said:

 

That'd be the nuke causing the damage though. In this case the thing being hit could cause by far the worst damage, not the weapons hitting it.

Yes, but it's an unlikely scenario. So when deciding when to build things, those things probably shouldn't factor in too much. 

[Captain Howdy]

14 minutes ago, Red Phoenix said:

 

Why, because Ukraine could be shelling their own plant because Russian troops are there? Nope.

You should, you’re a fucking natural. 

[Strontium]

Regardless of who shelled who, everything that has happened and is happening in Ukraine at the moment is the fault of Russia. The end. Enough of the victim blaming, we get enough of that on this forum already.

[Red Phoenix]

14 minutes ago, Captain Howdy said:

Don’t know, I’m sure you’ll be able to tell me. 

 

They've both been reckless around the plant. Russians were firing there in camera the footage we saw months back, Ukraine recently with "kamikaze" drones. That's just one example from either side. I doubt all of the cases recently are all Russia or all Ukraine, maybe both of them still being reckless.

 

11 minutes ago, Strontium said:

Regardless of who shelled who, everything that has happened and is happening in Ukraine at the moment is the fault of Russia. The end.

 

Yeah and we can easily just whip out the "false moral equivalence" card for anyone who says otherwise about anything at all.

[Rico1304]

30 minutes ago, Red Phoenix said:

 

Yeah it's Russia Russia Russia, forgot sorry. Even though they have their own troops there. Got to be shelling their own troops, can't possibly be anyone else.

I mean they are so protective of their own troops. They mollycoddle them to be honest. No way they’d put them in harms way.  
 

Plus it makes perfect sense for Ukraine to make part of its country uninhabitable for decades.  

[Numero Veinticinco]

15 minutes ago, Strontium said:

Regardless of who shelled who, everything that has happened and is happening in Ukraine at the moment is the fault of Russia. The end. Enough of the victim blaming, we get enough of that on this forum already.

Yeah, and I suppose that's my fucking fault. Etc., etc. Oh how we laughed. 

 

But yeah, you're right. You don't get to invade a country, blow the shit out of it, then point fingers at somebody shooting a gun back. Well, you could I guess. But that'd make you a big ol' Russia-lovin' hillbilly, wouldn't it now. 

[Red Phoenix]

2 minutes ago, Rico1304 said:

Plus it makes perfect sense for Ukraine to make part of its country uninhabitable for decades.  

 

It makes very little sense to me why either side would be shelling anywhere near the plant. Ukraine for the reasons you said and Russians because they control it, have troops there and could be trying to redirect power from there to areas they control.

[Rico1304]

6 minutes ago, Red Phoenix said:

 

It makes very little sense to me why either side would be shelling anywhere near the plant. Ukraine for the reasons you said and Russians because they control it, have troops there and could be trying to redirect power from there to areas they control.

Is it because Russia has invaded and want to cripple Ukraine and cow them into submission. I mean the plant has been there for years and Ukraine have managed not to shell it before. What’s changed I wonder?  

[ZonkoVille77]

41 minutes ago, Red Phoenix said:

 

 

Guardian updates

 

Why did he include Ukraine military forces?

 

I'm not sure, but perhaps there's 2 sides in this war and one include Ukra.........

 

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Sorry, pissed on myself there. 

[Red Phoenix]

I could carry on but I'm off. Not doing the 24-48 hour replying to people thing just because I pointed something out about a nuclear power plant. In one of the most propagandised wars we've ever known.

[Captain Howdy]

2 minutes ago, Red Phoenix said:

I could carry on but I'm off. Not doing the 24-48 hour thing just because I pointed something out about a nuclear power plant. In one of the most propagandised wars we've ever known.

Oh he’s off again. He won’t come back with more Russian apologist shite, he really won’t. Deffo won’t…Not a chance

[Red Phoenix]

9 minutes ago, Captain Howdy said:

Oh he’s off again. He won’t come back with more Russian apologist shite, he really won’t. Deffo won’t…Not a chance

 

Yeah here's some more "Russian apologist" shite for you before I go too : ‘Kamikaze drones’ strike Russian-controlled Zaporizhzhia nuclear power plant

 

One of the propagandised wars ever. Almost anything not fully supporting Ukraine is Russian apologist. It's been completely fucking stupid for months on end. So yeah I'll avoid the 24-48 hour bullshit just for mentioning something thanks.

[Captain Howdy]

2 minutes ago, Red Phoenix said:

 

Yeah here's some more "Russian apologist" shite for you before I go too : ‘Kamikaze drones’ strike Russian-controlled Zaporizhzhia nuclear power plant

 

One of the propagandised wars ever.

Oh he’s back again…..and now he’s going again. 14 minutes.  What a fucking clown 

[Strontium]

All conflicts are propagandised. But all this focus on who fired missile X or dropped bomb Y, killing combatant Z, just serves to deflect away from the more important things, like which side is in the right. In this case I would have to say it is unambiguously the Ukrainians who are defending their homeland from invaders, and everything else is just noise.

[TheHowieLama]

I hate to throw this in there but this is probably the least propangandised/most transparent war ever. 

 

Remember the election that was the most corrupt ever?

Remember why it wasn't?

[Rico1304]

15 minutes ago, Red Phoenix said:

 

Yeah here's some more "Russian apologist" shite for you before I go too : ‘Kamikaze drones’ strike Russian-controlled Zaporizhzhia nuclear power plant

 

One of the propagandised wars ever. Almost anything not fully supporting Ukraine is Russian apologist. It's been completely fucking stupid for months on end. So yeah I'll avoid the 24-48 hour bullshit just for mentioning something thanks.

I mean you remember how this started right?  

[Rico1304]

 

[TheHowieLama]

42 minutes ago, Red Phoenix said:

 I pointed something out about a nuclear power plant.

TBF pal Russia first accused Ukraine of shelling there almost a month ago (albeit just a few days after some Russians apparently died at the site after an unexplained "event").

Are you watching this war on a stream??

[SasaS]

Part 2 of Tom's "while I way pretending to be on vacation" three-week recap, this one about the Russian ground forces. Expect also Part 3.

 

They are interesting even if you followed the situation on a daily basis, some of the stuff is a bit too optimistic though.

 

https://medium.com/@x_TomCooper_x/ukraine-war-early-august-2022-part-2-63aad98130c4

 

 

 

[Red Phoenix]

20 hours ago, TheHowieLama said:

TBF pal Russia first accused Ukraine of shelling there almost a month ago (albeit just a few days after some Russians apparently died at the site after an unexplained "event").

Are you watching this war on a stream??

 

I posted yesterday after seeing repeated reports on it recently. Nuclear plants might be thought of as one of the best ways of getting energy that we know of but I've never been comfortable with the safety of them personally. What's going on in Ukraine reminded me of that.