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8 hours ago, M_B said:

You think that meant Britain had no right to declare war on Hitler? You think the West has no right to resist Russia invading Ukraine?

I think you can't look at ww2 without the consequences of ww1.

We declared war on Germany because they wanted an empire and we weren't happy.

Ww2 probally wouldn't have happened without the earlier conflict.

I also think the situations are completely different.

When putin controls most of Europe they may be comparable.

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15 minutes ago, Arniepie said:

This time last week that cunt was saying Russia was going to.invade  in the next 48 hours,biden said it was going to be over the weekend.

 

Tuesday.

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1 hour ago, Arniepie said:

I think you can't look at ww2 without the consequences of ww1.

We declared war on Germany because they wanted an empire and we weren't happy.

Ww2 probally wouldn't have happened without the earlier conflict.

I also think the situations are completely different.

When putin controls most of Europe they may be comparable.

Rubbish.

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On 17/02/2022 at 04:35, M_B said:

Yet. Defender of the fatherland day in Russia is Feb 23rd.

 

On 17/02/2022 at 07:28, TheHowieLama said:

“After Feb. 20 was always the more important time frame,” said MICHAEL KOFMAN, an expert on Russia’s military at the CNA think tank. “We’re looking to see what Russian forces do then.”

That’s when the largest military exercise since the Cold War is scheduled to end, after which leaders in Moscow and Minsk promised Putin’s troops would head home.

 

“Not a single Russian serviceman, not a single piece of equipment will remain in Belarus after the completion of exercises with Russia,” Belarussian Foreign Minister VLADIMIR MAKEI. 

 

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  • "Let's start with the fact that modern Ukraine was entirely created by Russia, more precisely, by the Bolshevik, communist Russia. This process began almost immediately after the 1917 revolution," Putin said.
  • "Then, on the eve and after the Second World War, Stalin already annexed to the USSR and transferred to Ukraine some lands that previously belonged to Poland, Romania and Hungary," Putin said.
  • "And in 1954, for some reason, Khrushchev took Crimea from Russia and gave it to Ukraine. Actually, this is how the territory of Soviet Ukraine was formed," Putin said.

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10 minutes ago, Ne Moe Imya said:

Just watching Putin's address and ... it's not going to end peacefully, this situation.

 

Sounds like his speechwriter was Ian Fleming. 

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3 minutes ago, Fugitive said:

RP is defo lying in a heap covered in his own spunk after that.

 

Why would I be happy at that? He's escalated things and now it looks like there's more chance of war. I'm not happy at anything here that increases the chance of anything but a peaceful solution.

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Russian stock market down 14% in a single day: https://quote.rbc.ru/news/article/621397139a79472d16e0d003

 

Ruble down around 5% today as well. Going to be a crusher to the average, poor Russian who lives on $200/month.

 

Thankfully, all the rich people already own a bunch of real estate in Italy/London/Switzerland so they'll be fine. Would be a real shame if anything were to happen to that!

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4 minutes ago, SasaS said:

This is not good.

No. The worry is he tries the same with the Baltic States after Ukraine. They are members of NATO, so that would either break the alliance or trigger a military response.

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At least now people (a dwindling band of people, to be fair) can stop pretending that this is about anything other than Russian imperialism.

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14 minutes ago, Strontium said:

At least now people (a dwindling band of people, to be fair) can stop pretending that this is about anything other than Russian imperialism.

This part is true, for sure. He barely mentioned the NATO issue, it was all "Ukraine shouldn't really exist, all Ukrainians really just want to be Russians."

 

The historiography was ... questionable, to say the least.

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1 minute ago, Ne Moe Imya said:

This part is true, for sure. He barely mentioned the NATO issue, it was all "Ukraine shouldn't really exist, all Ukrainians really just want to be Russians."

 

The historiography was ... questionable, to say the least.

 

My great-grandparents were so desperate to be Russian that they fled Lithuania to live in Cork.

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