Russia v Ukraine

[SasaS]

11 minutes ago, Funkasy said:

Ok thanks ive been reading some of the posts you have been copying. Is he is located in Ukraine ? 

No, as far as I can tell he is in Austria, it is all through OSINT, other analysts grapevine, network  and summaries and I guess some military and intelligence contacts plus personal opinions and conjecture.  

 

https://www.facebook.com/keksifarm.hayday

 

He is asking people to just click follow if they want.

[SasaS]

Did Putin just come out in defense of JKR and against cancel culture? That move was really against Geneva convention.

[Pureblood]

He must be a fan of the Pure Bloods. 

[dockers_strike]

The bombing of a Mariupol theatre with “children” painted visibly outside has killed some 300 people, Ukrainian authorities have claimed. 

 

At least 1,300 were sheltering from the constant bombardment of the strategic port city when shelling hit on March 16.

 

A video recorded at the scene last week that has emerged today showed people staggering from the wreckage, covered in thick dust as they pushed to the exit. In other clips, the buildings are completely unrecognisable as smoke rises from the ashes.

 

"From eyewitnesses, information is emerging that about 300 people died in the Drama Theatre of Mariupol following strikes by a Russian aircraft," a spokesman from the Mariupol city hall wrote on Telegram.

“I do not want to believe in this horror. Until the last, I want to believe that everyone managed to escape. But the words of those who were inside the building at the time of this terrorist act say otherwise.”

The ruins were the “last refuge for hundreds of innocent people”, they added.

 

Those sheltering thought they would be safer hidden inside its walls than making it alone among the devastation outside.

It took hours for survivors to escape: just 150 people pulled themselves from the rubble in the immediate aftermath. It is thought that most exits were blocked. 

 

Afterward, the Kremlin was accused of “war crimes” by the city’s council. 

 

"The heart is breaking from what Russia does to our people, our Mariupol," said Volodymyr Zelensky, the Ukrainian president, following the attack. 

 

For four weeks Russia’s bombardment of Mariupol has been relentless. Hundreds of thousands are trapped and supplies running dangerously low.

Another video from the theatre showing the collapsed part of the building: pic.twitter.com/FXwtoVJJ9h

— Eliot Higgins (@EliotHiggins) March 25, 2022

There have been reports of people starving, drinking water from contaminated streams, and bodies being buried in playgrounds.

At just 21 years old it is down to Alexandr to feed his family, his father going missing a week before. On Wednesday, as he searched the shells of buildings he was left with no other option but to eat a dog.

“We were so desperate we cooked it,” he told the Telegraph. “We were starving and I am ashamed to say it.”

 

No emergency services are operating in Mariupol as constant shelling makes it impossible for aid to enter, which prevented rescue attempts at the theatre.

 

Yevheniia Kudria, 24, was there the day it was hit. She described seeing corpses with torn body parts and people dying in front of her as medical assistance was scarce. 

 

“It was not possible to save and provide them with medical care,” she said.

 

“People were living inside its walls, sleeping on the floor, fed once a day. There were many children, the elderly and young people. The military was not there.”

 

Mothers are writing their children's blood types on their wrists in case they are injured. 

 

One resident known only as Kate, who escaped from the theatre before the attack, said women carried children just months old through its corridors.

 

"We knew we had to run away because something terrible would happen soon," she told the BBC, noting that every nearby building was destroyed.

 

The 300 killed will likely join hundreds of others buried in mass graves across the city, or perhaps be left in the hastily dug holes next to playgrounds.

 

Tamara Kavunenko, 58, said: "This is no longer Mariupol, it's hell.”

 

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2022/03/25/watch-inside-bombed-mariupol-theatre-300-people-have-lost-lives/

[Strontium]

They were Nazi children, obviously.

[Numero Veinticinco]

1 minute ago, Strontium said:

They were Nazi children, obviously.

Great hair. Great fucking hair.

[SasaS]

No comments on the second Russian casualties update?

 

Russia admits 1,351 soldiers dead and 3,825 wounded ( since admitting 498 KIA and 1,500 wounded on 2 March)

"Per Russian state media TASS, deputy chief of Russia's General Staff Sergey Rudskoy claims that Ukraine has suffered about 30,000 casualties since the start of the war, with 14,000 dead and 16,000 injured. This comes after Russia has revised its own casualty figures to 5,176 killed or injured. Ukraine last gave an assessment of its own casualty figures on March 12, when he stated that 1,300 Ukrainian soldiers had been killed since the start of the war."

[TheHowieLama]

4 minutes ago, SasaS said:

No comments on the second Russian casualties update?

 

Dopes.

[DJLJ]

54 minutes ago, SasaS said:

No comments on the second Russian casualties update?

 

Russia admits 1,351 soldiers dead and 3,825 wounded ( since admitting 498 KIA and 1,500 wounded on 2 March)

"Per Russian state media TASS, deputy chief of Russia's General Staff Sergey Rudskoy claims that Ukraine has suffered about 30,000 casualties since the start of the war, with 14,000 dead and 16,000 injured. This comes after Russia has revised its own casualty figures to 5,176 killed or injured. Ukraine last gave an assessment of its own casualty figures on March 12, when he stated that 1,300 Ukrainian soldiers had been killed since the start of the war."

They also said they had significantly limited the Ukrainian military capabilities and would now concentrate on liberating Donbas region. Sounds like they are now admitting it isn’t going as well as they hoped. 

[Section_31]

It's going well then.

 

 A Russian brigade commander has been killed by his own forces in another indication of boiling discontent among Russian forces deployed in and around Ukraine, Western officials said.

The colonel, commander of the 37th Motor Rifle Brigade, was run over by an armored vehicle and suffered grave injuries to both legs.

[Duff Man]

 

[Pete]

10 minutes ago, Duff Man said:

 

This whole thing stinks of a few blokes in the pub getting pissed and one them says let’s invade Ukraine for shits & giggles.   Badly planned out with no idea what they would be facing and how they’d go about it.  
 

So much death and destruction over a totally shit idea. 

[Duff Man]

19 minutes ago, Pete said:

This whole thing stinks of a few blokes in the pub getting pissed and one them says let’s invade Ukraine for shits & giggles.   Badly planned out with no idea what they would be facing and how they’d go about it.  
 

So much death and destruction over a totally shit idea. 

It does seem like that, doesn't it? I read somewhere recently that he'd only taken advice from a very small number of people before going in.

[SasaS]

1 hour ago, DJLJ said:

They also said they had significantly limited the Ukrainian military capabilities and would now concentrate on liberating Donbas region. Sounds like they are now admitting it isn’t going as well as they hoped. 

There are theories it was the plan all along, the attack on Kiev an Kharkiv was to make Ukrainians keep some of their best troops there so Russians could focus on Donbas and the south. But they would say that after failing to take the cities, wouldn't they. Several pro-Russian analysts were convinced in the beginning it is only the question of when not if, as in this week or the next, or the one after, so it sounds more like face saving exercise. Or plan B.

 

The problem is, Ukrainians still do not look capable of launching bigger or more complex tactical attacks so if the Russians can consolidate the territories, it is too much to lose and very hard to take back later.

[Leyton388]

This whole war just shows how totally incompetent, poorly equipped and poorly trained the Russian forces are. 

 

The only thing Putin has achieved is destroying any theory that the Russian forces are a genuine match or threat to Nato.

 

 

 

 

[dockers_strike]

9 minutes ago, Leyton388 said:

This whole war just shows how totally incompetent, poorly equipped and poorly trained the Russian forces are. 

 

The only thing Putin has achieved is destroying any theory that the Russian forces are a genuine match or threat to Nato.

 

 

I think we should be thankful to some degree that that may be the case.

 

But, we should never forget that something like 3+ million people have been made refugees, many innocent men, women and children killed and whole cities raised to the ground. The cost of this will be enormous and not just in monetary terms.

 

I dont buy conspiracy theories that the invasion was just to 'liberate' a couple of separatist states. It was clearly meant to be more with Putin and his acolytes fully expecting to brush aside Ukrainian resistance in a matter of days and build the land buffer between NATO and Russia.

 

 

[Duff Man]

13 minutes ago, Leyton388 said:

This whole war just shows how totally incompetent, poorly equipped and poorly trained the Russian forces are. 

 

The only thing Putin has achieved is destroying any theory that the Russian forces are a genuine match or threat to Nato.

 

 

 

 

 

It does appear to be an absolutely epic blunder. Also notable that he's had to ban Facebook, there, too, which kinda suggests his much vaunted powers of social media manipulation aren't quite as effective as they were cracked up to be.

[SasaS]

I think they prioritized surprise over preparation, I think it went like this: the Americans sacrificed a good source and/or intel when they began declassifying everything and going public, which not many believed was true, including the Ukrainians. 

There is a statement from one Ukrainian intelligence officers being quoted somewhere their estimate was Russians needed two more weeks of on-field preparations so the attack caught them by surprise.

And it did, first couple of days it looked they were going to fold quickly, everywhere except along the Line of Contact in Donbas. I mean, there was a successful airborne attack on the Hostomel airport just outside Kiev, without any response. We don't know what else was in place, maybe the action movie stories commandos were going to take Zelensky were true, but it didn't succeed. Later, the haste and lack of preparation started to show and hinder the operations.

[Section_31]

"So how's Ukraine going then?"

 

"Completed it mate."

 

"You've completed Ukraine?"

 

"Yesh, got rid of the Nazis, job done."

 

"But I thought you wanted to occupy the whole country?"

 

"Yeah I was going to but then Lucy Pinder came round to suck me off."

 

[torahboy]

The number of military starategists on this site is quite incredible, a bit like the media's coverage of the conflict in Ukraine.

[SasaS]

Full text of the comprehensive Russian MoD briefing after first 30 days of the operation.

 

https://eng.mil.ru/en/special_operation/news/more.htm?id=12414735@egNews

 

[Leyton388]

1 hour ago, dockers_strike said:

I think we should be thankful to some degree that that may be the case.

 

But, we should never forget that something like 3+ million people have been made refugees, many innocent men, women and children killed and whole cities raised to the ground. The cost of this will be enormous and not just in monetary terms.

 

I dont buy conspiracy theories that the invasion was just to 'liberate' a couple of separatist states. It was clearly meant to be more with Putin and his acolytes fully expecting to brush aside Ukrainian resistance in a matter of days and build the land buffer between NATO and Russia.

 

 

Putin and his cronies need to pay for what they've done. The ICC should have plenty of evidence to prosecute them for War crimes. 

[Rico1304]

19 minutes ago, torahboy said:

The number of military starategists on this site is quite incredible, a bit like the media's coverage of the conflict in Ukraine.

Spot on.

[dockers_strike]

39 minutes ago, Leyton388 said:

Putin and his cronies need to pay for what they've done. The ICC should have plenty of evidence to prosecute them for War crimes. 

I wouldnt disagree with that. But, him and his cronies are hardly likely to turn up at the Hague or wherever any trial would be held. Even if tried in absentia, implementing any sentence will be just as difficult.

 

If he's removed from office by a coup, he'll probably just be packed off to the Russian equivalent of Southport to liveout his days.

[Rico1304]

On 14/11/2021 at 12:50, Captain Willard said:

If it kicks offf, we’d last about a week. The Russians have got 12,000 tanks, the British army about 250 and 1/3 are broken being used for spares. Putin knows that the European armies are weak, underfunded , lack popular nationalist support  and there is not much appetite in the US either for their young men to be killed in another foreign war thousands of miles away.
 

One things for sure, if he does invade, you can bet the SWP backed Stop the war campaign will be curiously silent. 

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