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We can’t carry on like this.


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Can we stop with the fucking “I’ll stand with Klopp if we

lose 5-0 very game / takes us down the divisions” shite.

 

You can back the man without the sickening cuckold behaviour.

 
We’re Liverpool Football Club ffs. Can everyone start acting like it instead of trying to out mollycoddle each other. 

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The players must have stopped listening to him. If we’re losing in the same manner every week and the training and tactics are remaining the same then it’s gonna create problems. 
 

The Chelsea players saw Mourinho off twice after he’d won them leagues the season before. 

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Yeah, the problem is tactical, or the players don't care anymore. It was fine saying injuries and the defense were the main issues a couple months ago, but we've created about 2 decent chances at Anfield in the last two months. The injuries and blaming individual players thing is clearly nonsense. 

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We've lost the spine of the team this season. We've gone from having VVD and Gomez at centre half with Fabinho and Henderson in front of them doing the defensive work required to get the best out TAA and Robertson. 

 

Over the last two seasons we found a system that worked perfectly with the players we had. I think we all knew that it was a very fragile team though that was only 2 or 3 injuries away from struggling. If we had only lost VVD this year, I think we'd be second right now. Behind City, but ahead of the rest. Matip and Gomez at centre back with Fabinho and Henderson in front of them would have been fine. It's no coincidence that the more defensive players we have lost, the more games we have lost.  

 

As far anyone wanting Klopp out, who the fuck is going to do a better job next year with no Champions League football on offer and the usual sell to buy first transfer budget?

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3 minutes ago, MegadriveMan said:

We've lost the spine of the team this season. We've gone from having VVD and Gomez at centre half with Fabinho and Henderson in front of them doing the defensive work required to get the best out TAA and Robertson. 

 

Over the last two seasons we found a system that worked perfectly with the players we had. I think we all knew that it was a very fragile team though that was only 2 or 3 injuries away from struggling. If we had only lost VVD this year, I think we'd be second right now. Behind City, but ahead of the rest. Matip and Gomez at centre back with Fabinho and Henderson in front of them would have been fine. It's no coincidence that the more defensive players we have lost, the more games we have lost.  

 

As far anyone wanting Klopp out, who the fuck is going to do a better job next year with no Champions League football on offer and the usual sell to buy first transfer budget?

So you're suggesting we lost 4 players. Except until recently Henderson and fabinho have both been mostly fit. The fact we chose them to play out of position is a swaud management issue. I don't believe we lost a spine at all..we lost our centre back. 2 of them are always injured. One was tougher to predict as he's the polar opposite. We can't blame injuries for getting the run around at home for 2 months. 

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19 minutes ago, Jennings said:

It's like everything that has happened to us in the last four years has been forgotten. And everyone is now looking through a narrow lens at the most bizarre season ever and having a knee jerk reaction.

People are just reacting to the here and now. It's a very miniscule limited number of idiots who want Klopp gone. Its perfectly reasonable to be annoyed, bemused or fucked off at this season, at decisions and performances and it not mean you want the baby thrown out with the bath water. Match threads especially should be jam packed with bullshit over emotional ridiculous responses because that's what football does.  Currently we are absolutely shite, the easiest team in the league to play and we don't even look like we've bothered to address it, just rest legs until the lepzeig game.  All in all a pile of wank if this is the price to pay for the last few years I'm happy to pay it. I'd give klopp whatever he wants except his resignation.

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1 hour ago, 3 Stacks said:

What the hell are you talking about? Why would you jump to a conclusion like that? I'm saying, not "strengthening from a position of strength" could explain not winning the title this season. But it definitely doesn't explain us turning into an absolute relegation quality shitshow of a team. 

So who are you blaming? What are you actually saying?

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Missing the fans? Maybe but during bad runs in the past Anfield has either been deadly silent or toxic. Probably for the best half the main stand isn’t there.

We are currently worse than Houlliers last season. Somethings got to give, injuries or not we are a fucking shambles.

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Missing the fans? Maybe but during bad runs in the past Anfield has either been deadly silent or toxic.

We are currently worse than Houlliers last season. Somethings got to give, injuries or not we are a fucking shambles.

The only thing owners do is sack the manager. Its how they operate.

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1 minute ago, Barrington Womble said:

So you're suggesting we lost 4 players. Except until recently Henderson and fabinho have both been mostly fit. The fact we chose them to play out of position is a swaud management issue. I don't believe we lost a spine at all..we lost our centre back. 2 of them are always injured. One was tougher to predict as he's the polar opposite. We can't blame injuries for getting the run around at home for 2 months. 

 

Yes it is a squad management issue. The reality is that Phillips, Williams, Kabak, Davies aren't very good players, certainly not good enough for a top four Premier League team. 

 

Gomez played 42 games last season. Matip played 30+ every season until last season. We gambled on VVD not getting injured this year and that has failed spectacularly. 

 

I agree its not the only issue. Mane and Firmino have been poor for most of the season. Playing Jota in a dead rubber game was unbelievably fucking stupid.  Allison has been injured, then Kelleher gets injured! Everyting that could possibly have gone wrong has gone wrong this season.  

 

 

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4 minutes ago, Section_31 said:

Changing manager would be an act of lunacy, there's nobody better. That being said, there's something not right with these lads now, a hefty shakeup could be called for.

Klopp with the squad when the season finishes -

 

 

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6 minutes ago, VladimirIlyich said:

So who are you blaming? What are you actually saying?

It's a complex problem with loads of culprits. There are problems that have fallen out of the sky like deaths of loved ones and bad refereeing decisions. Injuries which have wiped out an entire position group. Clear physical and mental fatigue. Squad building mistakes. The players have given up. And finally, Klopp has no tactics anymore. So, in short, the problems are: God, FSG, Edwards, Klopp and the players. How you fix that is anyone's guess. There you go. 

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2 minutes ago, 3 Stacks said:

It's a complex problem with loads of culprits. There are problems that have fallen out of the sky like deaths of loved ones and bad refereeing decisions. Injuries which have wiped out an entire position group. Clear physical and mental fatigue. Squad building mistakes. The players have given up. And finally, Klopp has no tactics anymore. So, in short, the problems are: God, FSG, Edwards, Klopp and the players. There you go. 

You forgot no fans but you’re not far off mate.

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Can we also stop with the "These are shite" and "That team won't get near winning the [insert trophy]" posts about other teams, especially in the match threads. Not that we have any direct influence on matches but, especially recently, those teams (except Sheffield United) have managed to defy the TLW overlords and do the exact opposite of these claims.

 

 

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