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The Dawn Of The Age Of Ignorance?


Anubis
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15 hours ago, Anubis said:

Flat Earthers, fake Covid, chemtrails, 9-11ers, QAnonsense, and now people thinking snow is fabricated (at least in this one case by Bill Gates!!). Are we in danger of entering an age of ignorance where people revel in stupidity?

 

 

 

 

 

I've just shown this to Mrs O'T and she reckons their methodology is scientifically unsound.

 

Thank you, Bill Gates, for turning my wife into one of your sheeple!

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9 minutes ago, Colonel Kurtz said:

We should have a thread with a poll on which conspiracy theories are actually true (if any). I might do that later. 

 

1 minute ago, Strontium Dog™ said:

 

"Capitalism is a conspiracy to keep the little guy down" would definitely win here.

We'd have to define what we mean by "conspiracy theory". I'd suggest the key is secrecy. The idea that there is some clandestine cabal controlling things and getting up to nefarious shenanigans behind closed doors would be a conspiracy theory: the idea that there is an elite clique of powerful people - in politics, in business, in the media, etc - who have shared interests and have got each other's backs is just something that happens in broad daylight as the normal way things work.  

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Ignorance is normally the disguise for morally inept lying narcissists. Think about it. Are people that stupid? No. They conform to their own pathetic ideals because they want to think they set themselves apart from the rest. The reality is pretty much what AoT said at the start of the thread. Sad lonely arseholes. 

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I wonder how many crackpots are almost being legitemised by mainstream media attention these days though?

 

Watched that Panorama doc about anti-vaxxers and covid-deniers. About 250 of them marched through Brighton spouting their bullshit. 250. That's fuck-all, time was the media simply wouldn't bother reporting of such an insignificant number of buffoons having a jolly. Its a double edged sword: Holding these fuckwits up to scrutiny also exposes them to other like-minded mouth-breathers, and the circle gets wider. What to do?

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1 hour ago, Strontium Dog™ said:

 

"Capitalism is a conspiracy to keep the little guy down" would definitely win here.

It depends on the 'type' of capitalism involved. If it involves a genuine competitive element where anybody can participate and success is dependent on the quality of the service or product then its pretty good. If it involves price fixing,freezing out small and medium sized businesses who are better at what they do than the bigger companies by any means possible then I wouldnt even call that capitalism. That would be a kind of 'ironic Socialism' for very wealthy people.

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The proliferation of idiots, ignorance and the ill informed was always prevalent, they just didn’t have a voice.

 

When they dared to speak up before they were ignored or told to ‘do one’, often with the threat of clip round the ear.

 

The internet and social media merely provided them with a clubhouse and free membership for like-minded (if not weak-minded) people who would listen and regurgitate.

 

A form of prima nocta may be required to breed the stupid out of the human race.

 

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23 hours ago, Bobby Hundreds said:

I've said before on here as much as there is so much I love about the Internet if I was given a button to press that would end it, I'd press it.

Absolutely this. 

 

The Internet was I guess meant to excite us, give us the opportunity to explore, communcate and discover things we never thought possible. It did that, but in doing so, it's made us lazy, unwilling to research and above all,  cowards that hide behind a screen and say things that we'd never dream of to people faces. It's not all bad of course, but yep, I'd press the button in an instant and go back to the old days of libraries, pen pals and trying to learn and master a topic by good solid research.

 

Yours

 

J R Hartley.

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8 hours ago, Chip Butty said:

Absolutely this. 

 

The Internet was I guess meant to excite us, give us the opportunity to explore, communcate and discover things we never thought possible. It did that, but in doing so, it's made us lazy, unwilling to research and above all,  cowards that hide behind a screen and say things that we'd never dream of to people faces. It's not all bad of course, but yep, I'd press the button in an instant and go back to the old days of libraries, pen pals and trying to learn and master a topic by good solid research.

 

Yours

 

J R Hartley.

Internet is much better if you actually want to research something than the library. It is quite liberating, if you are willing to make an effort.

The problem now is that control of communication is much more complex, with everyone offered a platform. History of democratization of information has always also been a history of dumbing things down. Now possibly for the first time, everybody is a communicator.  

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6 minutes ago, Bjornebye said:

The ignorance of people to the reality of this covid virus blows my mind. Having platforms like LBC and the Daily Mail pushing an agenda driven point of view rather than actual facts and reality has absolutely cost more lives. 

But it’s just like flu, right?! (Sarcasm horn)

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I follow the guy who wrote a book called Chaos Monkeys about the early days of Facebook on Twitter. He made a good point about people (roughly around our age groups here on TLW for the most part) being from the analogue world, and the early adopters of the digital. So yeah, people

can remember accessing information in a different way to how subsequent generations are accessing it. Websites used to want authentic, accurate information on their platforms until Web 2.0 came along and suddenly everyone can comment on how shit the takeaway was last night or how the restaurant forgot to sing Happy Birthday. 
Rambling a bit but I think libraries are awesome and so are book shops. Central Library in town is amazing. 
 

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On 22/02/2021 at 14:46, Bjornebye said:

Ignorance is normally the disguise for morally inept lying narcissists. Think about it. Are people that stupid? No. They conform to their own pathetic ideals because they want to think they set themselves apart from the rest. The reality is pretty much what AoT said at the start of the thread. Sad lonely arseholes. 


 

They’re giving us genuine sad, lonely arseholes a bad name. 

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