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1 hour ago, Preston Red said:

Heard one go up from Warton yesterday. I live in Leyland so the noise carries over the River Ribble/Douglas quite clearly.

 

Still waiting for a tour of the final assembly hanger now the Covid regs are being binned off.

I was on the pan sorting some kit when the ground crew decided to engine test one, nearly deafened me.

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Interesting, perhaps even reassuring vid of a Cessna 205 having had a catastrophic engine failure. Many people think losing the engine is a real problem with singles and that they'd want a twin for just this sort of an issue. In fact the stats for singles vs twins biases heavily in favour of singles. 

 

 

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6 hours ago, rb14 said:

Interesting, perhaps even reassuring vid of a Cessna 205 having had a catastrophic engine failure. Many people think losing the engine is a real problem with singles and that they'd want a twin for just this sort of an issue. In fact the stats for singles vs twins biases heavily in favour of singles. 

 

 

That is terrifying and equally impressive.

 

The failure of the engine is a big interest for me too, wouldn't mind seeing the report into how and why the engine failed.

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13 minutes ago, Preston Red said:

That is terrifying and equally impressive.

 

The failure of the engine is a big interest for me too, wouldn't mind seeing the report into how and why the engine failed.

Not certain if it's this one but Juan Browne gives a good analysis of these incidents. it seems like the engine was well fucked?

 

 

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Depends what you mean by well-fucked. It's virtually impossible to take into the air, a plane with a "well-fucked" engine. It simply would not be certified to fly. Engines are subject to regular, demanding inspections based on time, and operating hours. Only under very specific, limited circumstances is an engine granted an extension to its predicted lifespan. No pilot, barring someone with a death-wish, would even think of flying a plane with a "well-fucked" engine. 

 

As a pilot mate of mine once said, "Make sure you do all your checks properly on the ground. There are no lay-bys or hard shoulders up there." 

 

If you mean the engine was well-fucked after the failure, you'd be absolutely right. What appears to be a catastrophic failure of at least two cylinders and a crankcase in bits. This is such a rare occurrence, it'll be analysed in great depth. The resulting report will, as @Preston Red says, make very interesting reading. 

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1 hour ago, rb14 said:

Depends what you mean by well-fucked. It's virtually impossible to take into the air, a plane with a "well-fucked" engine. It simply would not be certified to fly. Engines are subject to regular, demanding inspections based on time, and operating hours. Only under very specific, limited circumstances is an engine granted an extension to its predicted lifespan. No pilot, barring someone with a death-wish, would even think of flying a plane with a "well-fucked" engine. 

 

As a pilot mate of mine once said, "Make sure you do all your checks properly on the ground. There are no lay-bys or hard shoulders up there." 

 

If you mean the engine was well-fucked after the failure, you'd be absolutely right. What appears to be a catastrophic failure of at least two cylinders and a crankcase in bits. This is such a rare occurrence, it'll be analysed in great depth. The resulting report will, as @Preston Red says, make very interesting reading. 

I just used well fucked in the loosest terms. Watching juan's vid, it shows an engine when the cylinder head had ripped out of the block. Like I said, I cant remember whether juan says that's the engine that's failed or another example.

 

Agreed, no sensible person would attempt to fly a plane with a well fucked engine.

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On 12/02/2021 at 08:09, easytoslip said:

There was a programme about that Osprey on last week, things never went well during its early days but now its an essential part of US military I believe, being able to do what others can't. 

It is a strange looking thing and I'm not sure I'd like a ride in one, same with any Helicopter for that matter. 

 

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3 minutes ago, dockers_strike said:

Just unintentionally seen part of a vid that shows the plane 90 degree perpendicular to the ground seconds before it crashed. Very distressing. Reportedly not a 737 Max but another variant.

 

RIP to those on board.

Is that the cctv footage? That doesn't look accidental to me. Planes glide down if engines fail. Unless a wing has fallen off then it surely has to have been forced into a nose dive? I suppose the dead will have only had a few seconds of terror (if that is the plane) 

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38 minutes ago, Bjornebye said:

Is that the cctv footage? That doesn't look accidental to me. Planes glide down if engines fail. Unless a wing has fallen off then it surely has to have been forced into a nose dive? I suppose the dead will have only had a few seconds of terror (if that is the plane) 

Not necessarily. If it's got into a stall and in sheer panic, the pilots are holding full up on the yoke and it's not in a flat spin, it's going straight down. Alternatively, if part of the tail plane or rudder has broken off, the aircraft cannot fly so again, can go straight down.

 

Im not certain if Juan Browne will be covering this but I'll keep an eye out for any video.

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