Curtis Jones

[AngryOfTuebrook]

Sky reporting that Villa have "ended their interest" (possibly because they've been laughed at and told to fuck off).

[No2]

8 hours ago, TheHowieLama said:

I thought he was recovering from a concussion?

He played in the behind closed door match with Villa. You can see him in the clip when Neco scored the worldie. That was the Sunday after Norwich I believe. 

[Barrington Womble]

1 hour ago, No2 said:

He played in the behind closed door match with Villa. You can see him in the clip when Neco scored the worldie. That was the Sunday after Norwich I believe. 

As I posted earlier, he was on the bench last week. 

[TD_LFC]

2 hours ago, AngryOfTuebrook said:

Sky reporting that Villa have "ended their interest" (possibly because they've been laughed at and told to fuck off).

Or Sky Bet have got the uptick in bets being placed to cover a short day.

[dockers_strike]

Villa have likely been told Jones isnt interested in a move and the club told them to piss off after they were prepared to pay £30m for that Smith Rowe carthorse before they had 100m from the sale of Grealish.

[Colonel Bumcunt]

Should have sold him with a buyback clause. 

 

[VladimirIlyich]

I don't think he's quite earned Klopp's full trust quite yet as I reckon Klopp wants him to do more off the ball and maybe keep possession a bit better. He's very talented and I can't imagine selling him ever crossed Klopp's mind even if it did cross the owners thoughts.

[AngryOfTuebrook]

1 minute ago, VladimirIlyich said:

I don't think he's quite earned Klopp's full trust quite yet as I reckon Klopp wants him to do more off the ball and maybe keep possession a bit better. He's very talented and I can't imagine selling him ever crossed Klopp's mind even if it did cross the owners thoughts.

I doubt it would have crossed their minds for £15m; double that and they might have thought about it.

[Pidge]

His touch is by far his best attribute. Defenders are scared of going near him in the box, but are happy to have a dig in the midfield. Get him in the box more and he'll be golden, last season he was trying to cover for midfielders dropping into defence and it was never going to show him off. It's just not his natural game.

 

I guess like Woodburn maybe they don't think he has the pace to make playing him further forward viable, but as more of a coutinho version of that role, I think he could do it. Especially with Jota and Robbo next to him.

[sir roger]

I think any midfielders with attacking qualities might have to gauge whether we are the right place to be while Jurgen is in place. As has been stated , he sees midfielders as workhorses and while it is always good to be more defensively aware it can also be outweighed by the loss of your original attributes. There were signs last season that Curtis was losing the X Factor that showed in his earlier games. Shaqiri was not really given much chance , Gini was reinvented and Keita  hardly gets forward at all.

[m0e]

7 minutes ago, sir roger said:

I think any midfielders with attacking qualities might have to gauge whether we are the right place to be while Jurgen is in place. As has been stated , he sees midfielders as workhorses and while it is always good to be more defensively aware it can also be outweighed by the loss of your original attributes. There were signs last season that Curtis was losing the X Factor that showed in his earlier games. Shaqiri was not really given much chance , Gini was reinvented and Keita  hardly gets forward at all.

This.

 

When teams are sitting back defending their point or lead, he's perfect to bring on in the front 3, I reckon.

[aRdja]

He’s not a natural CM. I’d like to see us try 4-2-3-1

Alisson; Trent, Matip, Virgil, Robbo; Fabinho, Thiago; Elliott, Jones, Jota; Salah

[dockers_strike]

4 minutes ago, aRdja said:

He’s not a natural CM. I’d like to see us try 4-2-3-1

Alisson; Trent, Matip, Virgil, Robbo; Fabinho, Thiago; Elliott, Jones, Jota; Salah

Some people might think Sadio and Bobby are both currently pants but neither is making way for Jones right now.

[sir roger]

I think we could certainly do with other options than doubling down on Plan A

[aRdja]

7 minutes ago, dockers_strike said:

Some people might think Sadio and Bobby are both currently pants but neither is making way for Jones right now.

Good to have plenty of options.

[3 Stacks]

2 hours ago, aRdja said:

He’s not a natural CM. I’d like to see us try 4-2-3-1

Alisson; Trent, Matip, Virgil, Robbo; Fabinho, Thiago; Elliott, Jones, Jota; Salah

Would look better like this;

 

           Jota       Salah

 

Jones   Thiago   Fabinho  Elliott

[Bjornebye]

He's leaning well

 

 

 

[stringvest]

Is he doing some sort of 1980's style piece?  Some grim clobber there.

[Guest]

13 minutes ago, stringvest said:

Is he doing some sort of 1980's style piece?  Some grim clobber there.

Getting a Vanilla Ice vibe. 

[Josef Svejk]

2 hours ago, Bjornebye said:

He's leaning well

 

 

 

Like a new signing. 

[Elite]

2 hours ago, Bjornebye said:

He's leaning well

 

 

 

Looks like the Toxteth section of Littlewoods.

[VladimirIlyich]

13 hours ago, stringvest said:

Is he doing some sort of 1980's style piece?  Some grim clobber there.

My thoughts exactly.

[Barrington Womble]

23 hours ago, VladimirIlyich said:

I don't think he's quite earned Klopp's full trust quite yet as I reckon Klopp wants him to do more off the ball and maybe keep possession a bit better. He's very talented and I can't imagine selling him ever crossed Klopp's mind even if it did cross the owners thoughts.

Unless there is something seriously wrong which is why he's down the pecking order at the moment, I wouldn't be surprised for him to be the midfielder with the most minutes after fabinho. 

 

I do think @sir roger has a point, but I think Jones will just adapt and be happy with it. As Gini showed, it doesn't mean you lose it as he was able to transform on the international stage. 

[dave u]

On 02/09/2021 at 10:37, Pidge said:

I guess like Woodburn maybe they don't think he has the pace to make playing him further forward viable, but as more of a coutinho version of that role, I think he could do it. Especially with Jota and Robbo next to him.

 

I think midfield is his long term position, but I agree with you. This season I'd defo be thinking about playing him in the Coutinho role on the left of the front three to see how he does.

 

He's nothing like Sadio so it would require a bit of a change to how we play, but he can score goals and he can create them.

[Megadrive Man]

On 02/09/2021 at 11:06, sir roger said:

I think any midfielders with attacking qualities might have to gauge whether we are the right place to be while Jurgen is in place. As has been stated , he sees midfielders as workhorses and while it is always good to be more defensively aware it can also be outweighed by the loss of your original attributes. There were signs last season that Curtis was losing the X Factor that showed in his earlier games. Shaqiri was not really given much chance , Gini was reinvented and Keita  hardly gets forward at all.

 

Spot on.

 

I think is partly why Thiago has struggled at times here as well. 

When signing midfielders, we should be looking at players like Hojbjerg at Spurs, he's not a great midfielder, but ideally suited to the job we want them to do. 

 

It seems like Florian Neuhaus was/is our top target. Maybe we think we have got more chance of getting him next season?