Curtis Jones

[Barrington Womble]

13 minutes ago, MegadriveMan said:

 

Spot on.

 

I think is partly why Thiago has struggled at times here as well. 

When signing midfielders, we should be looking at players like Hojbjerg at Spurs, he's not a great midfielder, but ideally suited to the job we want them to do. 

 

It seems like Florian Neuhaus was/is our top target. Maybe we think we have got more chance of getting him next season? 

I disagree. Klopp wants real footballers to be his water carriers. It's why he took a player like Gini who was an attacking player and made him what he was. His touch, great short passing and quick feet helped him when we had the ball. He just had to learn the dirty work for when we were pressing. The same will be true of Jones and Elliot. It's what we'd hoped for out of keita. 

[Anubis]

Bayern are sniffing around Neuhaus. He and his dad are apparently Bayern fans as well.

[Megadrive Man]

4 hours ago, Barrington Womble said:

I disagree. Klopp wants real footballers to be his water carriers. It's why he took a player like Gini who was an attacking player and made him what he was. His touch, great short passing and quick feet helped him when we had the ball. He just had to learn the dirty work for when we were pressing. The same will be true of Jones and Elliot. It's what we'd hoped for out of keita. 

Yeah, I understand the logic that it's easier to get players that have great technical ability to do the dirty work in midfield, but whilst Gini is a good example of a player where this has worked, Keita and to a lesser extent Thiago are players where it hasn't worked, or doesn't get the best out of them. 

 

It will be interesting to see how it plays out for Jones and Elliot if they are mainly seen as central options. I wonder if we will see Jones or Elliott eventually play the false 9 role? 

[Barrington Womble]

1 hour ago, MegadriveMan said:

Yeah, I understand the logic that it's easier to get players that have great technical ability to do the dirty work in midfield, but whilst Gini is a good example of a player where this has worked, Keita and to a lesser extent Thiago are players where it hasn't worked, or doesn't get the best out of them. 

 

It will be interesting to see how it plays out for Jones and Elliot if they are mainly seen as central options. I wonder if we will see Jones or Elliott eventually play the false 9 role? 

I think keita hasn't worked out because he's a big shithouse. He doesn't like being kicked, I don't think it's related to his defensive duties, as he's not capable of taking a tackle, let alone put one in. We did also do the same with lallana, he was injury prone too, but at least performed the job klopp wanted when he got on the pitch. 

 

Thiago I personally see as something a bit different. I don't think you buy a very established 29 year old and try to change his game. I think we bought him to bring something different. It's just up to now he's not really shown it. I reckon he was an opportunistic role of the dice to try and maybe tactically change us a bit. 

[TheHowieLama]

30 minutes ago, Barrington Womble said:

It's just up to now - 

he has never been in the side he was bought for.

[Barrington Womble]

3 minutes ago, TheHowieLama said:

he has never been in the side he was bought for.

Who was he bought for, Everton? 

[3 Stacks]

Any manager who has a real style of play and philosophy will mold players the way he wants to. Jones will have to adjust to that. Klopp won't simply put Jones in a free or attacking role because he wants to be a creative player (I don't know if that's what he wants, it's an example). 

[VladimirIlyich]

3 minutes ago, 3 Stacks said:

Any manager who has a real style of play and philosophy will mold players the way he wants to. Jones will have to adjust to that. Klopp won't simply put Jones him in a free or attacking role because he wants to be a creative player (I don't know if that's what he wants, it's an example). 

Mold is in North Wales. 

[aRdja]

3 hours ago, 3 Stacks said:

Any manager who has a real style of play and philosophy will mold players the way he wants to. Jones will have to adjust to that. Klopp won't simply put Jones in a free or attacking role because he wants to be a creative player (I don't know if that's what he wants, it's an example). 

Klopp has played with a number 10 before; Coutinho, Götze, and Kagawa… but Jones isn’t quite good enough (yet) to warrant a change in our setup to accommodate him.

[Bjornebye]

I've got a feeling this lad is going to be very important for us 

[El Rojo]

2 minutes ago, Bjornebye said:

I've got a feeling this lad is going to be very important for us 

He seems to be able to put in a shift anywhere in midfield. Looks much stronger physically this season too. Doesn’t let it affect him either when he makes mistakes. 

[aRdja]

2 minutes ago, El Rojo said:

He seems to be able to put in a shift anywhere in midfield. Looks much stronger physically this season too. Doesn’t let it affect him either when he makes mistakes. 

Did he play as a number 6 in the first half against Norwich?

[Bjornebye]

5 minutes ago, El Rojo said:

He seems to be able to put in a shift anywhere in midfield. Looks much stronger physically this season too. Doesn’t let it affect him either when he makes mistakes. 

Yeah much bigger. 

[El Rojo]

1 minute ago, aRdja said:

Did he play as a number 6 in the first half against Norwich?

Can’t remember mate. He might well have done. He’s excellent and is also already more likely to score than any of our other midfielders. 

[El Rojo]

Of course the massive downside of all this is the inevitable England call-up next month. 

[Jairzinho]

20 minutes ago, El Rojo said:

Of course the massive downside of all this is the inevitable England call-up next month. 

Southgate won't play him. 

[Vincent Vega]

 

[an tha]

He was excellent tonight.

 

A real all round performance.

[andyj]

1 hour ago, Bjornebye said:

I've got a feeling this lad is going to be very important for us 

Stevie G 2.0

[Freddo]

Top class today. Given regular game time you'd imagine he can go on and become a key player for us. The way he keeps the ball under pressure and in tight spaces his excellent. 

[johnsusername]

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[TheHowieLama]

#CuJo

[Mathewbet1]

3 assists and ran the show, he has all the tools

[Einch]

1 hour ago, aRdja said:

Did he play as a number 6 in the first half against Norwich?

He did. Was not good and went walk-about far too often. Time and training will fix that. Excellent tonight.