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I just don't see City really going for Kane, the mancs will be all over it. Bottom line is City are operating at a higher level than the mancs given the (obscene) depth of their spending and recent success. I would imagine City's first choice is Haaland?

 

As others have posted dodgy ankles and injury record and approaching that age (27 now). Engurland's captain and no 9 is a perfect fit for the mancs.

 

Levy will undoubtedly drag this out to extract every last penny even to the detriment of his own team and new manager.

 

Given Spurs debts about £50 of the transfer fee will be invested in the squad.

 

 

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30 minutes ago, chrisbonnie said:

 

Wasn't there similar talk when utd signed another "injury prone" forward from a different north London team. 

 

2 seasons later, with a champions league trophy and a league title added to their collection, van persie was lauded as a utd great....... 

 

The price is only ever remembered or mentioned if the transfer doesn't succeed, Kane will succeed with any of the other top 4 teams in England. That's a fact

 I agree . Kane still manages to pretty much come top of the scoring stats every season in a worse team and some recurrent injuries, I would be more than happy if we signed him but Utd will get him almost certainly

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Looking forward to Gary Neville and Jamie Carragher's joint plea for a Liverpool/United protest against the Glazers running the club into the ground when they buy Harry Kane. 

 

Kane to them, Haaland to City, I reckon. 

 

If we were to go big, I think Sancho would be our limit, but we won't do that without selling either. 

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It doesn't matter a shite if Man Utd (where Kane will no doubt end up) pay £100m or £150m for him if he does well, which he would as he's a phenomenal goal scorer.  We saw it with people bleating about what we were paying for VVD and Becker only for them to go very quiet very quickly when they realised how good they were.

 

Kane at Utd would make them title challengers.  He's that good.  Man Utd are a team who rely on good players as their manager wouldn't know a tactic from a tictac. "Just get the ball to Kane in the box" is an easy one and one that'd work with the quality they have.

 

Also, Man Utd are the devils club and never seem to get bad injuries*

 

*If someone posts showing key Man Utd players with bad injuries I will ignore it as it doesn't suit my narrative

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40 minutes ago, chrisbonnie said:

 

Wasn't there similar talk when utd signed another "injury prone" forward from a different north London team. 

 

2 seasons later, with a champions league trophy and a league title added to their collection, van persie was lauded as a utd great....... 

 

The price is only ever remembered or mentioned if the transfer doesn't succeed, Kane will succeed with any of the other top 4 teams in England. That's a fact

Van Persie is a great shout. He's probably exactly what the buyer is getting here only 6 times the price.

 

Van Persie had one good season, they won the league and he scored 26 goals. The following seasons he scored 12 and 10 goals and was sold for £3m. 

 

If money wasn't an object everyone on here would take Kane whether they admit it or not. He's brilliant but he's a crock, Daniel Levy will be delighted with this news but also shitting it he breaks down again before he's sold.

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29 minutes ago, joe_fishfish said:

This can't be true, unless FSG truly are beyond parody now.

I'd probably do the same to be honest. VVD, Konate, Matip, Gomez, Fabinho, Phillips. That's enough without spending another 18m on Kabak. 

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Just now, Numero said:

I'd probably do the same to be honest. VVD, Konate, Matip, Gomez, Fabinho, Phillips. That's enough without spending another 18m on Kabak. 

No point even including him in these lists.

 

I'd actually be up for not signing Kabak if it meant we got a truly excellent ball winning midfielder instead. Wouldn't be worried about moving Fabinho into defence if we had someone else who could do what he does in the middle of the park.

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2 hours ago, chrisbonnie said:

 

Wasn't there similar talk when utd signed another "injury prone" forward from a different north London team. 

 

2 seasons later, with a champions league trophy and a league title added to their collection, van persie was lauded as a utd great....... 

 

The price is only ever remembered or mentioned if the transfer doesn't succeed, Kane will succeed with any of the other top 4 teams in England. That's a fact

Van Persie was at Utd for 3 seasons. They won the league his first season but came 6th and 4th after that. They won no other major trophy and he was sold for £3m 

For £24m at the time, it was probably worth it to get a final league title for Ferguson but £150m? 

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4 minutes ago, Numero said:

I'd probably do the same to be honest. VVD, Konate, Matip, Gomez, Fabinho, Phillips. That's enough without spending another 18m on Kabak. 

Matip can't be trusted to be available for 10 league games.

If this season has taught us and Klopp anything its we can't afford to be putting Fabinho into CB and taking him out of the midfield. 

 

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6 minutes ago, Mark M said:

Matip can't be trusted to be available for 10 league games.

If this season has taught us and Klopp anything its we can't afford to be putting Fabinho into CB and taking him out of the midfield. 

 

We will still have VVD, Konate, Gomez, and Phillips, and we can’t just pretend Matip isn’t there. He’s an option. Only then is there the need for Fabinho to cover. I think with Henderson back, and I’m sure we are looking at another midfield player with somebody like AOC and or Shaq going. No need to spend on Kabak in my view. 

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2 hours ago, clangers said:

Given Spurs debts about £50 of the transfer fee will be invested in the squad.

Just the small matter of that £100m loan they took out with HM Government.

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Wouldn't surprise me if he went nowhere. Levy will piss around demanding an astronomical sum as he won't want to give up his golden goose easily: the new manager will either want funds, which Levy will want to generate through Kane's sale, or he'll want to convince Kane to stay.

 

Either way, it's nice that the kind of Summer Saga™ that we used to have to contend with every year is falling elsewhere.

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Also - wasn't there a rumour that we're trying to get Kabak for less than the initially agreed €18m fee, €9m or something, due to Schalke's relegation? Could be that we're trying to push the price down: we're signing Konate no matter what, but Phillips goes if we can negotiate a knockdown fee for Kabak, he stays as 4th choice if we can't.

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1 minute ago, Manny said:

Also - wasn't there a rumour that we're trying to get Kabak for less than the initially agreed €18m fee, €9m or something, due to Schalke's relegation? Could be that we're trying to push the price down: we're signing Konate no matter what, but Phillips goes if we can negotiate a knockdown fee for Kabak, he stays as 4th choice if we can't.

Im not sure in that rumour we're trying it on with Schalke for even less €18m considering the original price was more than €25m.

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I don't think Philips is good enough - but, maybe playing 5 - 10 games a season he is good enough for that role, but would he want that? I am really happy with Konate - but, I am worried about Gomez and Matip. It may be worth spending a bit of money on a player like Zakaria from Monchengladbach, as he can play CB and DM, or someone like Singo from Torino who we have been linked with as he can cover RB also. 

 

I suspect Philips would excel at a team like Palace or Brighton who defend their penalty area, but I'd rather we didn't focus upon him, If I am being picky. If money is tight then fair enough - but ideally I'd like two options next season. Just so that we don't have to use Fab there again. 

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18 minutes ago, neko said:

Sell Phillips while his stock is high. Use Matip sparingly when needed. Keep Kabak and develop.

 

Done.

Matip as good he is is never fit and on a new contract. We should be getting rid, easier said than done. We still don’t know how VVD and especially Gomez will be when they return. Cannot have another season like this.

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8 minutes ago, dockers_strike said:

Im not sure in that rumour we're trying it on with Schalke for even less €18m considering the original price was more than €25m.

Pretty sure it was reported that the loan had an option at 18m and there was definitely talk of trying to do a deal at a cut rate due to relegation.

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37 minutes ago, VERBAL DIARRHEA said:

Matip as good he is is never fit and on a new contract. We should be getting rid, easier said than done. We still don’t know how VVD and especially Gomez will be when they return. Cannot have another season like this.

VVD, Gomez, Konate, Kabak and Matip not enough ?

 

Might be right.

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I'd be sorry to see Kabak go. He's a really good prospect at his age. 

 

Williams needs to be loaned out and as fine a footballer as he is whenever he plays, it's false economy keeping Joel Matip. 

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