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24 minutes ago, Scott_M said:

 

Is it because Bowen is English? Would more pulses be racing if we wanted Brazilian Felipe Anderson, who WHU have just bombed out somewhere? 
 

No. It's because he isn't very good. 

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48 minutes ago, El Dangerous said:

It’s nothing like signing Benteke. Rodgers insisted on signing him but had no idea how to utilise him in the way he wanted his team to play. At least Bowen has attributes that with a fair bit of polish could see him be at least a better option than Origi. He might not ever make the step up to our level but at least there’s a logic in signing him. 

 

"A better option than Origi" will mark the gravestones of many a transfer turd. That positively subterranean bar is fine for cheap punts like Minamino or Shaqiri, but on £30-40m players it's not. Especially when that's likely the only addition we'll be making in that position.

 

As I say, it reminds me of the summer of Benteke, in that the links surface slowly, and they're met by the five stages of transfer grief. "A better option than Origi" is the bargaining stage.

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12 minutes ago, Babb'sBurstNad said:

 

"A better option than Origi" will mark the gravestones of many a transfer turd. That positively subterranean bar is fine for cheap punts like Minamino or Shaqiri, but on £30-40m players it's not. Especially when that's likely the only addition we'll be making in that position.

 

As I say, it reminds me of the summer of Benteke, in that the links surface slowly, and they're met by the five stages of transfer grief. "A better option than Origi" is the bargaining stage.

I was going to go with a less polished Dirk Kuyt but I don’t want to put too much pressure on the lad.

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1 hour ago, Jairzinho said:

No. It's because he isn't very good. 

 

 If he had bronze skin, with luscious flowing hair, a strong jawline and perfect cheekbones, you'd be all over him.

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Good pace but not lightning quick. He seems incredibly one-footed. My early verdict is he’d make a good squad player, and you’d rather him in the team than Origi or Minamino to cover for Salah during AFCON. Not the most inspiring of signings though.

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He's worth 12 million tops. I've used all kind of algorithms, statistical analysis, interviews from the player, rumours about his ma, the area he grew and how many keepy ups he can do. 

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22 minutes ago, Kevin D said:

 

 If he had bronze skin, with luscious flowing hair, a strong jawline and perfect cheekbones, you'd be all over him.

Does the potential marketability of our players based on sexual attractiveness mean absolutely nothing to you? 

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What is the fucking point of loaning Davies out...

 

He has never played for us even when we had literally no proper centre halves fit, he is never likely to play for us...so just sell him.

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10 minutes ago, an tha said:

What is the fucking point of loaning Davies out...

 

He has never played for us even when we had literally no proper centre halves fit, he is never likely to play for us...so just sell him.

Probably hoping his value will go up by playing out on loan. Rinse as much as we can. 

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I couldn’t pick Ben Davies out of an ID parade. Saying that, I had no idea what Jota looked like till he signed for us so make of that what you will. 

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Tidy little player, good touch, good left foot, wins the ball back and might suit a mid table premier league team. I can't see him helping us much against the park the bus sides at Anfield.

 

Only logic to it is the home grown quota. But if we were that worried about it why did we give Adrian an extension? I'd also probably keep Ox over Keita than spend £35m on Bowen.

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Think it was the season before last Bowen had a really great purple patch and looked potentially a very good player, one to watch.  If Klopp thinks he can get the best out of him on a consistent basis then you never know, he could surprise many.

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If you’re not going to pay full whack for the few decent English players about, you’ll end up having to over pay for the average ones to keep up with the outdated quota.

 

Of course, we end stuck with shite like Lallana and oxocube for years but yea quotas.

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17 minutes ago, RoyHodgeGone said:

As I said yesterday for £20m Danjuma looks an interesting wild card.

 

 

https://www.marca.com/futbol/villarreal/2021/08/02/61081a3146163f32578b45f0.html

 

Fiel a su política de control financiero, el Villarreal no quiere perder la cabeza a la hora de de concretar su gran apuesta en el mercado de fichajes este verano. Los amarillos buscan un extremo que satisfaga las necesidades que demanda Unai Emery esta temporada con el fin a de afrontar con mayores garantías una campaña con la exigencia de la que se avecina . Pero lo cierto es que las opciones que han tanteado los amarillos exceden la capacidad actual de gasto del conjunto de la Plana. Y pese a estar dispuestos a realizar un nuevo esfuerzo tras los fichajes de Foyth o Día, tienen claro que no van a tirar la casa por la ventana y desestabilizar las cuentas del club.

El holandés Arnaut Danjuma sigue siendo el primero en la lista de opciones que maneja la secretaría técnica amarilla. Pero para que su llegada pueda ser un hecho, el Bournemauth, club dueño de su pase, debería rebajar una exigencia que ronda los 25 millones de euros. Una cifra que los castellonenses, ni mucho menos, piensan alcanzar como demuestra la oferta inicial realizada y que no superaba los 15 millones.

Cabe recordar que el dos veces internacional holandés llegó hace dos veranos al conjunto inglés previo pago de 16.5 millones de euros. Y que sus actuaciones , especialmente esta campaña donde ha anotado 15 goles y ha repartido siete asistencias , le han revalorizado hasta el punto que varios conjuntos de la Premier (entre los que ha sonado el Liverpool) se han interesado por sus servicios.

El director general del conjunto "Cherrie", Scott Parker, confirmó recientemente haber descartado ofertas por el futbolista: "Sí que existe la posibilidad de que "Arnie" deje el club. Está bien documentado que ha habido ofertas para él, y que han sido rechazadas. Me siento aquí pensando que existe la posibilidad de que Arnie se vaya, pero también me siento aquí sabiendo que si esa oferta no es la oferta correcta, entonces se quedará y jugará un papel importante en lo que hacemos", aseguró. El futbolista ha estado lesionado durante toda la pretemporada y, pese a estar ya entrenando, no jugará el primer partido liguero que su equipo disputará el próximo fin de semana ante el West Brom.

La falta de ventas condiciona

La actual coyuntura económica ha frenado un mercado que, en otras circunstancias, podría haber llegado con importantes ofertas por jugadores del Villarreal. La campaña realizada por futbolistas como Pedraza, Pau Torres o Gerard Moreno no se ha traducido, al menos de momento, por propuestas irrechazables en el seno del club de La Plana. Una circunstancia que impide grandes desembolsos tras los ya realizados.

En su momento el consejero delegado del Villarreal, Roig Negueroles, ya reconoció a Marca que jugadores como Guedes, estaban "fuera de la capacidad de mercado" para el Villarreal. Como en el caso del luso y si no se produce alguna venta por cifras importantes, el conjunto amarillo podría buscar nuevas alternativas si el equipo inglés se planta en sus exigencias.

 

Translation...

 

True to its policy of financial control, Villarreal does not want to lose its head when it comes to making its big bet in the transfer market this summer. The yellows are looking for an extreme that meets the needs that Unai Emery demands this season in order to face with greater guarantees a campaign with the demands of the one that lies ahead. But the truth is that the options that the yellows have tested exceed the current spending capacity of the Plana as a whole. And despite being willing to make a new effort after the signings of Foyth or Día, they are clear that they are not going to throw the house out the window and destabilize the club's accounts.

 

The Dutchman Arnaut Danjuma remains the first on the list of options handled by the yellow technical secretariat. But for his arrival to be a fact, Bournemauth, the club that owns his pass, should lower a requirement of around 25 million euros. A figure that the people of Castellón, by no means, intend to reach as shown by the initial offer made and that did not exceed 15 million.

 

It should be remembered that the two-time Dutch international arrived two summers ago to the English team after paying 16.5 million euros. And that his performances, especially this campaign where he has scored 15 goals and has distributed seven assists, have revalued him to the point that several Premier teams (among which Liverpool have sounded) have been interested in his services.

 

The general manager of the "Cherrie" team, Scott Parker, recently confirmed that he had ruled out offers for the footballer: "There is a possibility that" Arnie "will leave the club. It is well documented that there have been offers for him, and that they have been rejected. I sit here thinking that there is a possibility that Arnie will leave, but I also sit here knowing that if that offer is not the right offer, then he will stay and play a big role in what we do, "he said. The footballer has been injured throughout the preseason and, despite being already training, will not play the first league game that his team will play next weekend against West Brom.

 

Lack of sales conditions 

 

The current economic situation has slowed down a market that, in other circumstances, could have come with important offers for Villarreal players. The campaign carried out by footballers such as Pedraza, Pau Torres or Gerard Moreno has not been translated, at least for the moment, by irrefutable proposals within the La Plana club. A circumstance that prevents large outlays after those already made.  At the time, the CEO of Villarreal, Roig Negueroles, already acknowledged to Marca that players like Guedes were "out of market capacity" for Villarreal. As in the case of the Portuguese and if there is no sale for important figures, the yellow team could look for new alternatives if the English team is planted in their demands. 

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34 minutes ago, Shooter in the Motor said:

As Villareal aren't willing to throw the house out the window, I'll be amazed if FSG are.

You mean Villareal haven't joined The Who? 

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