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4 minutes ago, Lee909 said:

Not a bad summer that Keegan,Lindsay others out for 600k

 

Kenny,Souness,Hansen in for 900k

 

 

To put our blatant £300k cheating into context there, 2 years later City bought Steve Daley for £1.4m.

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1 hour ago, dockers_strike said:

I agree. But the fact they are trying to make it happen plus £120m+ for Kane and maybe even a couple of £50m squad players in the same window isnt a laughing matter. And chelsea are looking to do something similar after fwank spunked £200m up the wall only 12 months ago.

 

Football's fucked. Only fat slob like cunts like martin samuel thinks it's great it's all going this way. When football has become like Formula 1, these same cunts will be saying where have all the fans gone and what can we do to get them back in the grounds.

 

I love football and watched us win through the great times and lean times. Being uncompetitive wasnt good and you go because of the love for your team and belief they'll find a winning formula.

 

But now, football's about the deepest of the deepest pockets. What the fuck does it matter us signing headline players in the £40m - £70m bracket when city and chelsea are spending £100m+ on individual players and 2 at a time at that?

 

It's like the 1990s all over again when we were buying £5m - £10m players when chelsea and united were paying £20m+.

Footy was done when it sold its soul to Sky as you know mate. Only a corrupt UEFA and a cowardly PL can stop it. They can’t/won’t.

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5 minutes ago, Jose Jones said:

Souness was later than Kenny wasn’t he?

Yeah during that season though

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4 minutes ago, VERBAL DIARRHEA said:

Footy was done when it sold its soul to Sky as you know mate. Only a corrupt UEFA and a cowardly PL can stop it. They can’t/won’t.

This is why the Euro Super League was so important in the step towards capping clubs like city. PSG, chelsea and yes, even Real. But loads of fans including SOS went on about 'taking back the game.' Yeah that's working well, isnt it?

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1 minute ago, dockers_strike said:

This is why the Euro Super League was so important in the step towards capping clubs like city. PSG, chelsea and yes, even Real. But loads of fans including SOS went on about 'taking back the game.' Yeah that's working well, isnt it?

I know mate. The mistake was a closed shop.

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For all its flaws, that European Super League appeared to acknowledge the problem of FFP not being enforced. There’ll be absolutely nothing done on it now. While they’re far from flawless, a fair bit of the criticism FSG receive seems to stem from other clubs openly flouting spending rules. 

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21 minutes ago, dockers_strike said:

This is why the Euro Super League was so important in the step towards capping clubs like city. PSG, chelsea and yes, even Real. But loads of fans including SOS went on about 'taking back the game.' Yeah that's working well, isnt it?

Great minds - just posted similar. 

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48 minutes ago, El Dangerous said:

It’s 

It’s a minor injury. I assume the fake Paul Joyce accounts are major brain injuries.

A week out whilst he is a west ham player.

 

A month if he joins us.

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Trade deadline for Boston Red Sox was yesterday and FSG were cheap. They needed a 1st baseman and a pitcher and got nothing. It doesn’t fill me with optimism for us.

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4 minutes ago, angie said:

Trade deadline for Boston Red Sox was yesterday and FSG were cheap. They needed a 1st baseman and a pitcher and got nothing. It doesn’t fill me with optimism for us.

They made 2 trades on deadline to strengthen their bullpen and traded for Kyle Schwarber from the Nationals the day before the deadline to get a left-handed power bat.

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3 minutes ago, Dynamite said:

They made 2 trades on deadline to strengthen their bullpen and traded for Kyle Schwarber from the Nationals the day before the deadline to get a left-handed power bat.

Gibberish.

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2 minutes ago, Dynamite said:

They made 2 trades on deadline to strengthen their bullpen and traded for Kyle Schwarber from the Nationals the day before the deadline to get a left-handed power bat.

I’ll quote this tweet I saw by a sox reporter:

“A complete and total abdication of responsibility by chaim bloom, the head of baseball operations for the team with the third-best record in the majors. You needed a starting pitcher and a 1st baseman and added neither while everyone around you got better. Disgusting.” 
That’s all I’m going off tbh

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This will never happen, but I really wish football fans cared more about wages, which are far more important to a club's finances and correlated with winning performance, than fees. I curse the day Football Manager, where fees and "war chests" dominate everything, was invented.

 

We've just given Trent a new contract, and yet people are on here moaning about how we haven't spent any money. We don't have details on his new deal but it's probably roughly the financial equivalent of signing a 30m player!

You can either lock down the likes of Trent and Alisson to new deals, or you can sell them and then spend the fees on shiny new players. Which one leads to success and trophies? The first one. Which one of those leads to happy fans in the summertime? The second one! Just ask Everton, who "win the transfer season" every summer and then go on to win nothing in the actual season.

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3 minutes ago, Ne Moe Imya said:

This will never happen, but I really wish football fans cared more about wages, which are far more important to a club's finances and correlated with winning performance, than fees. I curse the day Football Manager, where fees and "war chests" dominate everything, was invented.

 

We've just given Trent a new contract, and yet people are on here moaning about how we haven't spent any money. We don't have details on his new deal but it's probably roughly the financial equivalent of signing a 30m player!

You can either lock down the likes of Trent and Alisson to new deals, or you can sell them and then spend the fees on shiny new players. Which one leads to success and trophies? The first one. Which one of those leads to happy fans in the summertime? The second one! Just ask Everton, who "win the transfer season" every summer and then go on to win nothing in the actual season.

The most ambitious owners do both.

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1 minute ago, angie said:

I’ll quote this tweet I saw by a sox reporter:

“A complete and total abdication of responsibility by chaim bloom, the head of baseball operations for the team with the third-best record in the majors. You needed a starting pitcher and a 1st baseman and added neither while everyone around you got better. Disgusting.” 
That’s all I’m going off tbh

They've got one of the best starting pitchers in baseball due back from injury in the coming weeks, so the requirement for another starting pitcher probably wasn't so high on their want list. They have a good rotation that will be strengthened when Chris Sale returns from injury - he's currently on a rehab assignment following a lengthy injury. (Pretty much the equivalent of Virgil for us. Just makes the team so much stronger and was out for months with a serious injury).

 

Of the starting pitchers that were traded on deadline day, the returns were huge in regard to prospects heading the other way. The Red Sox farm system doesn't have the greatest depth at the moment, so it's extremely hard for them to provide prospects to entice top-end trades with other teams.

 

Max Scherzer went to the Dodgers who had to send 2 of their top prospects to the Nationals in return. (This trade ended up being the biggest on deadline day). Scherzer is only a rental, so becomes a free agent at the end of this season. Plus, there's no one that can compete with the Dodgers in terms of finance and/or prospect depth.

 

The Blue Jays got Jose Berrios from the Twins, but had to send 2 of their top 4 prospects the other way in return. Both of these prospects are top 100 prospects in all of baseball and are now the 2nd & 3rd best prospects in the Twins' organisation. 

 

As for the need at first base. The Red Sox are currently playing one of their previously top rated prospects at first base. Granted he has struggled this season, but they also have another top first base prospect waiting in the wings should Dalbec continue to struggle. 

 

The Red Sox had been linked with a trade for Anthony Rizzo from the Cubs, who did end up moving to the Yankees instead. It wasn't the biggest return for the Cubs, but it still needed one of the Yankees top 10 prospects in return.

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