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4 minutes ago, Pidge said:

I don't think there's any chance of that with Bellingham. Dortmund will be sure they can get big money on him in time, doubt they'd be looking at that now.

 

Shame as he's class. 

I've played football with his dad loads of times, massive man united fan. He'll never come here. I think he'll end up at United at some point sadly

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45 minutes ago, Mil-ing Around said:

I've played football with his dad loads of times, massive man united fan. He'll never come here. I think he'll end up at United at some point sadly

 

He turned United down though to go to Dortmund? 

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4 hours ago, scudger99 said:

What difference would reading my own posts make ?  Don't get that one at all.

If you let a woman dictate how long you stay in the pub there's a big difference between you and me.

I don't let her dictate, hence why she moans. As I say, the it's the same with you "don't post speculation on the speculation thread because I don't like it, they're all rags". On the fucking rag more like it. 

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1 hour ago, Anubis said:

 

 

Don't think I've ever clicked through to sports witness before. Fuck me, some real eye AIDS on there. I must have had to swipe away about half a dozen adverts just to read the one line that was in the tweet! 

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25 minutes ago, Barrington Womble said:

Don't think I've ever clicked through to sports witness before. Fuck me, some real eye AIDS on there. I must have had to swipe away about half a dozen adverts just to read the one line that was in the tweet! 

 

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2 hours ago, Barrington Womble said:

Don't think I've ever clicked through to sports witness before. Fuck me, some real eye AIDS on there. I must have had to swipe away about half a dozen adverts just to read the one line that was in the tweet! 

You need an adblocker mate. I use Purify on mobile, got nothing other than a turd article.

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Liverpool have received an approach from Burnley for Nat Phillips. #LFC are willing to listen to offers for an initial £10 million, with further add-ons to be negotiated to take the full asking price towards £15m [@_ChrisBascombe]

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1 hour ago, Bad Red Bull said:

Liverpool have received an approach from Burnley for Nat Phillips. #LFC are willing to listen to offers for an initial £10 million, with further add-ons to be negotiated to take the full asking price towards £15m [@_ChrisBascombe]


Probably the most obvious transfer in the history of football !

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13 hours ago, Barrington Womble said:

I don't let her dictate, hence why she moans. As I say, the it's the same with you "don't post speculation on the speculation thread because I don't like it, they're all rags". On the fucking rag more like it. 

I don't recall requesting folks stop posting speculation, I'd be grateful if you could point out an example to me.  And as for being on the rag, it isn't me who gets bent out of shape by FSG.  I see you've wound your neck in somewhat with the FSG ranting since Scott M told you the same thing very recently, so I supposed some credit is due.  Not fucking much though.

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51 minutes ago, scudger99 said:

I don't recall requesting folks stop posting speculation, I'd be grateful if you could point out an example to me.  And as for being on the rag, it isn't me who gets bent out of shape by FSG.  I see you've wound your neck in somewhat with the FSG ranting since Scott M told you the same thing very recently, so I supposed some credit is due.  Not fucking much though.

hahaha. i haven't wound my neck in about scott, i just put him on ignore because he's a bellend. to be clear FSG are absolute and utter cunts. i hope this helps. 

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1 hour ago, scudger99 said:

I don't recall requesting folks stop posting speculation, I'd be grateful if you could point out an example to me.  And as for being on the rag, it isn't me who gets bent out of shape by FSG.  I see you've wound your neck in somewhat with the FSG ranting since Scott M told you the same thing very recently, so I supposed some credit is due.  Not fucking much though.


Don’t start with Barry. He’ll come back and come back and come back at you until he’s proven wrong, then put you on ignore and claim your stalking him.

Fucking Donnie Azoff.

 

I might be a bellend but when the alternative is being on the same side as highly acclaimed posters like Daisy & Beef Stroganoff, I’m comfortable with my position. 
 

Anyway, I’m glad more forumites are pulling these posters up on their continued shite, it’ll be a better place if they significantly lessen their output of bile. 

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40 minutes ago, Scott_M said:

More hilarity. Decent player McGinn but not for anywhere near £50m.

 

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Liverpool were curious.

Manager Jurgen Klopp wanted to know whether John McGinn ever stopped running on a match day.

It sounds funny but the German was serious, so much so that he asked the question to his Scotland left-back Andy Robertson, who knows McGinn well from the international set-up.

The day after Aston Villa smashed Liverpool 7-2 last October, the two players met up for Scotland duty. They discussed that astonishing game at Villa Park, as well as Klopp’s comments. It later emerged that some of Liverpool’s players were particularly impressed with McGinn, too.

And so, for the second season running, the midfielder had entered into the thoughts of one of England’s top clubs.

In 2019, it was Manchester United, encouraged by their former manager Sir Alex Ferguson, to take a closer look at his all-action countryman. Now it was Klopp, and Liverpool, the reigning Premier League champions.

Such talk can be unnerving for clubs who are fearful of losing their best players. Villa, however, are no longer a selling club.

They have kept all their top performers since the 2018 takeover by Nassef Sawiris and Wes Edens, and this summer there are again no plans to actively move on any key players.

The situation around the club’s £100 million-rated captain Jack Grealish is a little more nuanced, with the Manchester City interest growing stronger and the huge numbers attached to that interest. As a generational talent, Villa are aware Grealish’s ambitions may outstrip their realistic aims and that he could potentially move for a record-breaking fee.

However, conversations around McGinn are not expected to get up and running. For Villa to even entertain the idea, bidding would have to start at £45 million to £50 million.

That’s how highly Villa rate the 26-year-old, who was signed for just £2.75 million from Edinburgh club Hibernian in the summer of 2018 and started all but one of their 38 league games last season. Premier League icon Yaya Toure also spoke passionately about McGinn’s qualities this week in his first column for The Athletic.

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Grealish and McGinn shake hands at the end of last week’s England v Scotland match (Photo: Craig Williamson/SNS Group via Getty Images)

Still, the interest from Liverpool is very real.

In 2019, an impressed Klopp said: “John McGinn, what a super player he is.”

Liverpool’s manager has been further encouraged by what he has seen from the Scot since. Yet interest in a player is one thing, actually moving to try to sign him is another.

There’s no chance of Liverpool landing McGinn for the £20 million fee mentioned in newspaper reports over the weekend.

Whether it was his performance in that 7-2 win, or just Klopp’s general interest which made Villa twitchy, the player was handed a new five-year deal in December — just over a year after his last successful contract renegotiation. His value is therefore protected for as long as his impressive displays continue. And as we’ve seen for both club and country, he’s still going strong.

Also, as much as Liverpool need a midfield replacement for Georginio Wijnaldum, who has moved to Paris Saint-Germain on a free transfer at the end of his Anfield contract, there’s a requirement to sell some of their unwanted or unsettled players before they can buy more.

If Liverpool can raise funds from moving on the likes of Marko Grujic, Divock Origi, Harry Wilson and Neco Williams, the landscape might change. For now though, senior sources at the Merseyside club insist they aren’t currently in the market for a midfielder.

With Jordan Henderson returning to fitness, Fabinho able to operate more regularly in the holding role after filling in at centre-back last season because of injuries and Thiago expected to play a bigger part in his second season, Klopp still has quality options. The fitness and form of Naby Keita and Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain are a concern, though.

McGinn, who is close friends with Robertson, brings more than just energy and enthusiasm to the teams he represents. He’s developing into a real leader too. His goals from a deep-lying midfield role last season weren’t bad either. Add those three to the 10 he scored in his first two seasons in Birmingham combined and it’s easy to understand why the top clubs in the country have taken note.

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McGinn holds off Declan Rice in customary style (Photo: Alex Morton/UEFA via Getty Images)

When Liverpool do get around to replacing Wijnaldum, McGinn could come back into the conversation for the reasons previously mentioned, as well as his strength at both carrying and passing the ball forward from deep positions.

Manchester United’s fondness for McGinn is still there, too. His name often crops up at Old Trafford, although there is no sign they will pursue him at this stage.

All of which, of course, leaves Villa in a decent position to shut out all the noise and keep hold of one of their most influential and popular players for at least another season.

The past campaign was another one of success for McGinn. Injury-free and undroppable in head coach Dean Smith’s mind, he played his part in a comfortable second season back in the Premier League for Villa.

There were times when he wasn’t at his free-flowing best, largely because Villa couldn’t quite find the right balance in midfield. Smith moved the Scot from his No 8 role to a more defensive one, but he was sometimes left exposed by the shortcomings of Douglas Luiz, the player he most frequently played alongside. McGinn also had to cover extra ground in some of the games Chelsea loanee Ross Barkley started at No 10.

Towards the end of the campaign, though, McGinn was back to his best. Playing alongside Marvelous Nakamba also appeared to help him express himself a little more going forward.

That he kept his place for the season — he only missed one league game through suspension — was a testament to his character and the trust Smith has in him.

McGinn is a player who pulls out his very best in the big games. He got the winner in the Championship play-off final against Derby County and was scoring goals against the big teams away from home at the start of 2019-20 when supporters were still allowed in grounds before the pandemic. For those who know him well, it was no surprise to see him shining when fans were back for the final home game of last season.

It’s that ability to run the show with a standout performance that makes McGinn so popular at Villa Park.

The Liverpool interest may grow stronger in time but, for now, he is a Villa player focused on helping his club push towards the European places next season.

 

That is a joint piece from Pearce and Gregg Evans who covers Villa for the athletic. 

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2 hours ago, Scott_M said:

Hahahaha - funny guys.

 

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I’d go for Maddison before Grealish. He’d be the more moneyball transfer. Grealish is the better dribbler but Maddison has better end-product.

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1 hour ago, Scott_M said:

More hilarity. Decent player McGinn but not for anywhere near £50m.

 

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This looks like it is being pushed by Villa! Who obviously want to cash in on him. 

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Echo and James Pearce say we’re not signing any FM 2020 Wonderkids but may get a few regens. I’m plumping for Caracas Maracas winger from FC Maydup in Peru. Bongo Colorado is good too.

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17 hours ago, MegadriveMan said:

 

He turned United down though to go to Dortmund? 

Yeah i was surprised by that at the time too. Once there were reports of him being shown around uniteds training ground i thought he was nailed on to go there. I guess he chose Dortmund because of playing time. I still think he'll end up at united though which is a shame because he looks like a real talent.

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