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Tommy Doc passed away


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Another character gone in this shit year. I know he managed the other cunts but fucking loved Shanks. Funny guy too as well as a big Tim. 
 

Funny singing “ who’s up Mary Brown “ back in the day only for him to stand up and take a bow. RIP Tom 
 

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The story I like is that Docherty was watching a young trialist playing while he was at Chelsea. At the end of the game Docherty said to the lad, "You're very deceptive son - you're slower than you look".  Apocryphal or not it sounds like something he'd say. Produced a good Chelsea team and a fucking lucky United team.

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2 hours ago, corro said:

Another character gone in this shit year. I know he managed the other cunts but fucking loved Shanks. Funny guy too as well as a big Tim. 
 

Funny singing “ who’s up Mary Brown “ back in the day only for him to stand up and take a bow. RIP Tom 
 

Didn't get some stick in the papers over Mary Brown, an affair scandal, yet he was with her for years. 

That 77 cup final still has the capacity to piss you off, that goal by Macari? That cracker by Case. 

Yes another character gone from the better days of the game, for me anyway. RIP

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I remember reading an interview with Docherty, years ago now although also still years after he had retired, and inevitably the Mary Brown episode came up. It was right at the end of the piece, and if the journo had any sense it was probably right at the end of the interview session too (even if the Doc been reasonable it would have changed the mood of the conversation). 
Doc simply said “I was out of order there.”

And you know what? He was. But he also paid a pretty heavy price himself. He’d been brilliant for a while at Chelsea, then had an oddly up and and down few years managing everywhere from the First Division to the Third, in Portugal, and the Scottish national team, as well as taking various coaching jobs. Yet at Manchester United he seemed to finally find himself. They were on their arses when he arrived, and he went down with them, but then he had them immediately promoted, challenging at the right end of the trophy, and as @Gnasher says he stopped us winning the treble in 1977. 
He genuinely seemed to be made for the club. In all events he’d never been so well-suited or so successful in any of his previous jobs. None of his previous (or future) jobs lasted even half as long as his five years at Old Trafford. 
A couple of months later and, well, his position was untenable really. And it was never that good for the Doc again. Derby, a farcical spell at QPR, four (four!) jobs in Australia, a spell at Wolves which included 21 consecutive league games without a win, and finally a season with Altrincham. Can you imagine someone managing Manchester United for five years in the 21st century... and 10 years going to Altrincham? 

So it was a heavy price for some lousy behaviour. But he was a proper football man - as you’d have to be to have managed at that level, and when you were no longer in favour just roll your sleeves up and head to Altrincham. Plus it really was love with Mary Brown, as they were together until he died. 
He had a quick wit, a fascinating life, and he loved the game. RIP Doc

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14 hours ago, Stickman said:

“Who’s up Mary Brown who’s up Mary Brown Tommy Docherty Tommy Docherty “ 

 

R.I.P to a great great manager and football character 

 

Yeah I remember that. He was a character as you say. He said about growing up on a rough estate in Scotland and his mother buying him clothes from charity shops ; I paraphrase ' it toughened me up going to school in the roughest part of Glasgow dressed in a third hand kids Japanese imperial war outfit.

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