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Joe Anderson, Derek Hatton arrested among others....


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How can anyone deny wrong doing with those housing contracts selling cheap providing funds then buying back hugely, how is Anderson and anyone involved in the decision process able to explain this criminal behaviour. The tories have been doing this with government contracts even during covid. Its all a cesspit.

 

I always remember in school and the PE teacher showing me the catalogue they had to order equipment from, all the stuff was around 5 to 10 times more expensive to buy than if you just went to the shop, it made absolutely no sense to me. Now you look back and realise public funds and contracts are just free sweets to many of these people charge the school the public 80 quid for a football that cost 15 in the shop. I wonder who had that catalogue contract.

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10 minutes ago, Bobby Hundreds said:

How can anyone deny wrong doing with those housing contracts selling cheap providing funds then buying back hugely, how is Anderson and anyone involved in the decision process able to explain this criminal behaviour. The tories have been doing this with government contracts even during covid. Its all a cesspit.

 

I always remember in school and the PE teacher showing me the catalogue they had to order equipment from, all the stuff was around 5 to 10 times more expensive to buy than if you just went to the shop, it made absolutely no sense to me. Now you look back and realise public funds and contracts are just free sweets to many of these people charge the school the public 80 quid for a football that cost 15 in the shop. I wonder who had that catalogue contract.

 

They have just done exactly the same as the catalogue your PE teacher showed you with the tuition 'catch up' contracts.

 

Massive mark ups on what would normally be paid repackaged as discounts, so much so that a lot of schools are not bothering to even bother with it as they have just placed a really expensive middle man in to what should be simple idea.

 

So, you have prefered groups/tuition agencies who are allowed to be booked via an agency, privete of course, the agency sets the price and the tutor groups, surprisingly always almost at the top end of what is acceptable, the agency then brokers teh deal between the schools/LEA's and takes it cut/percentage for admin ect. Means that what would in the real world cost £12 costs £22. The kicker being the schools can only apply to this organisation for tuition in the program, meaning their budgets would be decimated because of this. There is also a lot of red tape!

 

This is shaping up nicely to be the next covid scandal.

 

Somebody has to get paid I suppose...

 

 

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Yeah let’s focus on the plastic gangsters and two bit hoods rinsing a few million here and there, while the real

posh talking crims are sowing up the next few decades for them

and their ilk. 

 

“Our fight’s got nothing to do with liquor, prostitution or dope”. 
 

 

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1 minute ago, Bobby Hundreds said:

I always remember in school and the PE teacher showing me the catalogue they had to order equipment from, all the stuff was around 5 to 10 times more expensive to buy than if you just went to the shop, it made absolutely no sense to me. Now you look back and realise public funds and contracts are just free sweets to many of these people charge the school the public 80 quid for a football that cost 15 in the shop. I wonder who had that catalogue contract.

 

Labour signed so many of these dodgy PFI deals, we're still in hundreds of billions of pounds of debt from them even now.

 

Of course, it was the Tories who brought in PFI in the first place, to take power away from incompetent Labour councils.

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I think its clear that we need to hand over the city to somebody who meets the following criteria:

 

  • Loves the city and knows it well but who has not resided here and is independent;
  • Experience in holding a position in local government;
  • Has a track record of putting forward local social policies and and policies attracting investment and business;
  • Believes in open accountability;
  • Trusts his own judgement (and BOY does he);
  • Has no connection to Labour, Tories, or the Six-Percenters.
  • Dislikes Everton.

Yes, I'm talking about appointing Frode. Code 72 for Liverpool Chief Exec.

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17 hours ago, Section_31 said:

Where was the local media while all this was going on? 

 

Under-resourced, underpaid and under editorial leadership with no appetite for scrutiny? Those daily 20 Things You Will Not Believe Scousers Say Outside Greggs don't write themselves.

 

Having been on the fringes of that scene for a couple of years in the mid-00s, I just witnessed burnt-out career journalists planning their exit strategies and eager, generally out-of-town, graduates who were willing to churn out any old shit for Trinity until London called.

 

Not to disparage him personally, but it says it all that the Echo's current political editor's most notable contribution to the Fifth Estate is a story about him being 6.2cm tall. I think he won an award for it.

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8 minutes ago, Strontium Dog™ said:

 

Labour signed so many of these dodgy PFI deals, we're still in hundreds of billions of pounds of debt from them even now.

 

Of course, it was the Tories who brought in PFI in the first place, to take power away from incompetent Labour councils.

This was around 93 or 94.

 

Woops meant to quote Bruce spanners post.

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1 minute ago, chauncey said:

 

Under-resourced, underpaid and under editorial leadership with no appetite for scrutiny? Those daily 20 Things You Will Not Believe Scousers Say Outside Greggs don't write themselves.

 

Having been on the fringes of that scene for a couple of years in the mid-00s, I just witnessed burnt-out career journalists planning their exit strategies and eager, generally out-of-town, graduates who were willing to churn out any old shit for Trinity until London called.

 

Not to disparage him personally, but it says it all that the Echo's current political editor's most notable contribution to the Fifth Estate is a story about him being 6.2cm tall. I think he won an award for it.

 

The Echo would rather trail the Matrix around while they kick people's doors in, and pander to the football clubs.  They've no interest in local investigative journalism.

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Quite hilarious (but expected) to see the Tory shagger from Epsom and a Lib Dem/Tory hammer Labour and pitifully attempt to point-score when pretty much everybody else posting is all too aware and are acknowledging how corrupt part of the Labour council has been run. 

 

 

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Just now, Colonel Kurtz said:

I don't think i was point scoring at all, I was asking why the people of Liverpool allow themselves to be treated like this when they could bring about political change through the ballot box but don't. You dont have to vote Tory, just stop electing clearly bent politicians decade after decade just because they claim to be socialists. 

You were defending Patel, Jenrick and Hancock. 

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2 minutes ago, Colonel Kurtz said:

I don't think i was point scoring at all, I was asking why the people of Liverpool allow themselves to be treated like this when they could bring about political change through the ballot box but don't.

 

Politics is a religion here. You might as well ask why people worship gods that are indifferent to their suffering.

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5 minutes ago, Strontium Dog™ said:

 

Politics is a religion here. You might as well ask why people worship gods that are indifferent to their suffering.

Where are people on here defending Labour regarding all of this SD? Or are you spouting absolute rubbish yet again? 

 

I think we all know the answer. 

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Kurtz is one of those polite soft power Tories that knows it's not socially acceptable to be brazenly Tory so tries to be subtle about it.

 

"I was walking past my two Porches this morning and I saw a queue for a foodbank, it was so sad, I really feel for the children. I did notice that the parents all had expensive smart phones though, not that I'm making any judgments! I've voted Labour all my life...."

 

Don't pull that aww-shucks shit with me. 

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5 minutes ago, Section_31 said:

Kurtz is one of those polite soft power Tories that knows it's not socially acceptable to be brazenly Tory so tries to be subtle about it.

 

"I was walking past my two Porches this morning and I saw a queue for a foodbank, it was so sad, I really feel for the children. I did notice that the parents all had expensive smart phones though, not that I'm making any judgments! I've voted Labour all my life...."

 

Don't pull that aww-shucks shit with me. 

The Fanchester City of the GF. Patronising in good faith.

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4 minutes ago, Bjornebye said:

Where are people on here defending Labour regarding all of this SD? Or are you spouting absolute rubbish yet again? 

 

I think we all know the answer. 

 

Why are you so obsessed with "people on here" when the discussion is about all the people of the city, 90% of whom, if they bother to vote at all, will dutifully trot out in 6 weeks time to put their X against the person with a red rosette.

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10 minutes ago, Section_31 said:

Kurtz is one of those polite soft power Tories that knows it's not socially acceptable to be brazenly Tory so tries to be subtle about it.

 

"I was walking past my two Porches this morning and I saw a queue for a foodbank, it was so sad, I really feel for the children. I did notice that the parents all had expensive smart phones though, not that I'm making any judgments! I've voted Labour all my life...."

 

Don't pull that aww-shucks shit with me. 

 

If the experiences that have been relayed to me are any indication, the Porsches will be there to load up with free stuff from the food bank.

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2 minutes ago, Colonel Kurtz said:

I was saying that this "yes but what about the evil tories" is a crude distraction tactic used to mask what's happening locally. Priti Patel shouting at a few Oxbridge civil servants does not have any impact locally, the Council being bullied by Labour politicians to pointlessly spend millions buying derelict land at inflated values to enrich their mates or to spend £250k employing the Mayor's son is money being directly stolen from your schools, housing and leisure centres in the City. Read the report and these are real examples of what has been happening but your stuck in name calling "tory shagger". This is why these people come to Liverpool and not Surrey to commit these crimes, they know if they will get away with it because you are too busy worrying about Tory pantomime villains whose alleged actions don't have any impact on your day to day life. Its a smoke and mirrors job and you're falling for it every election.  

Mate read that back. Jesus. 

1 minute ago, Strontium Dog™ said:

 

Why are you so obsessed with "people on here" when the discussion is about all the people of the city, 90% of whom, if they bother to vote at all, will dutifully trot out in 6 weeks time to put their X against the person with a red rosette.

People on this thread are slagging Labour off. You are using it as a chance to point score for the Dems. Just like I originally pointed out. 

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1 minute ago, Bjornebye said:

People on this thread are slagging Labour off. You are using it as a chance to point score for the Dems. Just like I originally pointed out. 

 

Isn't it amazing that whenever anyone attacks the Tories or the Lib Dems, they're not "point-scoring", but the moment anyone dares to criticise Labour, then it suddenly becomes about scoring points. Just remarkable, really.

 

In any case, all this so-called criticism is worthless if people still go out and vote for the bastards.

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7 minutes ago, Colonel Kurtz said:

There must come a point where a candidate wearing a red rossette and shouting "evil tories" is not enough to get your vote

 

Oh boy, is that ever the triumph of hope over experience.

 

You should try asking people here why they vote Labour, as I naively used to when I was a kid canvassing for my old man. Maybe 10% of the time you'll get a response where the first sentence doesn't include the words "Thatcher" or "Tories".

 

Even in the late 2000s, our most successful leaflets locally were the ones that featured photos of Blair or Brown taking tea with Maggie at Downing Street.

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8 minutes ago, Strontium Dog™ said:

 

Isn't it amazing that whenever anyone attacks the Tories or the Lib Dems, they're not "point-scoring", but the moment anyone dares to criticise Labour, then it suddenly becomes about scoring points. Just remarkable, really.

 

In any case, all this so-called criticism is worthless if people still go out and vote for the bastards.

Thats a fair point. 

 

I think in 6 weeks it will be a different set of bastards regardless of who is voted in. 

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1 minute ago, Bjornebye said:

Thats a fair point. 

 

I think in 6 weeks it will be a different set of bastards regardless of who is voted in. 

 

It will still be Labour in power, because Liverpool only elects one-third of its councillors at any single election.

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