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20 minutes ago, VladimirIlyich said:

Matip has been sensational since his return but you just know its only a matter of time before he's injured again.

 

I'd be surprised if he saw out the next fortnight without spraining his uterus.

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Matip rarely gets injured on the pitch, it's inbetween games that we hear he's out.

 

We cannot rely on him putting in a consistent run of games so I say if he's "fit" get him in. No point resting him in tomorrow's game with eyes on Brighton and then we find out he's pulled a back muscle on Friday tying his lace. 

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I'd keep Matip, Milner, Robertson, Gini, Jota and Mane well away from this.

 

I suppose one thing to consider is how close Hendo and Thiago are. If they play Saturday,  we can afford to put Gini and Milner in.

 

We need to beat Brighton infinitely more than Atalanta.

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2 hours ago, dockers_strike said:

 

No Bobby!?

So long as he's fit for Saturday. On the plus side, let's hope Hendo and Ox are available for tomorrow. 

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On 23/11/2020 at 11:10, dockers_strike said:

 we cannot afford to lose this game. 

Yes we can.

 

I mean, obviously I want to win it, but we can afford to lose 2 out of 3 remaining games.

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5 hours ago, dockers_strike said:

 

No Bobby!?

Bobby missed training for non footballing reasons and will be available, according to my sources (the echo)

 

edit- ah 22 seconds too late

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I don't know what realistic rotation options there are in midfield especially. Got to be three out of Milner, Gini, Fab and Jones and that is if the CB pairing is Matip and Rhys and that puts one of them on the left. Playing Fabinho in midfield essentially risks all three of our available CB's. Give Mane a rest?

So maybe:

 

Alisson

 

Neco Rhys Matip Tsimikas

 

Jones   Gini  Milner

 

Salah Firmino Jota

 

 

That would be what, 5 games in two weeks for Wiji?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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20 minutes ago, TheHowieLama said:

I don't know what realistic rotation options there are in midfield especially. Got to be three out of Milner, Gini, Fab and Jones and that is if the CB pairing is Matip and Rhys and that puts one of them on the left. Playing Fabinho in midfield essentially risks all three of our available CB's. Give Mane a rest?

So maybe:

 

Alisson

 

Neco Rhys Matip Tsimikas

 

Jones   Gini  Milner

 

Salah Firmino Jota

 

 

That would be what, 5 games in two weeks for Wiji?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

That right side looks real vulnerable. 

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1 hour ago, AngryofTuebrook said:

Yes we can.

 

I mean, obviously I want to win it, but we can afford to lose 2 out of 3 remaining games.

I disagree. Losing is a bad habit.

 

If we were to lose to Atalanta, then we'd have to play a strong side against Ajax. Others may view it different but you dont want to be going oh, we can afford to lose to Atalanta and Ajax because we've just got the weakest side in the group to play.

 

We can use 5 subs so should do.

 

 

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I think Robbo and Matip should be rested for this.

 

Matip because he is simply too much of a risk for 3 games in a week in the absolutely shortest turnaround possible which is what we face in this week of 3 games that started Sunday...Sun night kick off for 1st one - Saturday early kick off the 3rd one....

 

And Robbo because he has had zero rest and risk feels high given how much he has played of late.

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A good barometer of how good we are and how much I love Klopp and his team/squad is the fact that I'm totally relaxed whoever we put out there tomorrow.

 

I'm not (despite having a good game when given the chance) a big fan of Nat Philips, and I think it might have been better to keep Hoever rather than Neco Williams, but we've got so many good players and have done so many good deals that these are mere details in a masterpiece.

 

Having watched and supported us since the mid-80s, there's always been 1 or 2 players that I have felt aren't really good enough, and should be looked at being replaced. This is the first time in all that time where there's no such need imo. Our CB injuries are of course unfortunate, and will probably lead to speculations on new signings. I think we'll cope fine whether we sign a CB or not, there's almost a sadistic desire in me to find out if we can be contenders and win in both Europe and the league with what we've got. I think Klopp and his boys are so good we can do it with what we've got, but there's the chance Matip will have a breakdown or two soon, so we'll have to see what happens I guess.

 

Anyway, my point was really that I'm not nervous about our games anymore, there might be a bump in the road (like Villa) on the way, but I think we'll run away with the league again, and I'm fairly confident about Europe too! Come on you reds!

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14 minutes ago, TheHowieLama said:

Not sure there are any other options - Jones looked very solid the other day.

Milner right back and bring Shaq/Taki in possibly, but I agree that we’re down to the barebones.

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35 minutes ago, aRdja said:

Milner right back and bring Shaq/Taki in possibly, but I agree that we’re down to the barebones.

Shaq is ruled out already I think - forgot about Minamino. He has been a bit crap tbh. Pretty sure Neco will get the start.

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