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Lewis Hamilton - where do you stand ?

Lewis Hamilton - where do you stand   

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  1. 1. Hero or cunt ?

    • Greatest sportsman of our generation, should be knighted for what’s he’s achieved.
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    • Tax avoiding cunt, driving a car in circles is not a sport anyway
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i have no interest in F1 any more. Good for him he's won what he has won and like schumaker before him, I am sure his input helps the engineers improve the car. but i just don't care. as for all this give him a knighthood - fuck off, let him come back to the Uk and pay some tax. I don't particularly blame him for living in Monaco, he spends most of the year on the road anyway, but don't expect the "british hero" nonsense when you fucked off somewhere else at your first opportunity. And I am sure he does care about BLM, but equally I am sure it doesn't do him any harm with sponsors etc. 

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He did do a quality post on twitter which I can't find, where he was sat in a huge Bruce Wayne-style dining room saying how grim lockdown was, proper Partridge esque and to be fair if I was rich I'd be doing exactly the same kind of thing.

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I was wondering how difficult it would be to do a post about Formula one without falling asleep whilst writing lines off the blackboard please students oh fucking hell where's my pants.

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I can't put my finger on what it is I hate about him. I do know I hate him though. He seems like souless character.

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1 minute ago, No2 said:

I can't put my finger on what it is I hate about him. I do know I hate him though. He seems like souless character.

My guess is that driving a car with wafer thin walls at 200 mph day in day out for years corrodes your soul eventually. That said, elite sportsmen tend to be slightly soulless characters, they have sacrificed their childhood to reach the top so its no surprise they don't have the most rounded personalities. 

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1 minute ago, No2 said:

He seems like souless character.

I'd imagine the sport does that to them. They all seem to have parents that would have stabbed a rival if it meant their little six year old won his karting race.

 

Then they make it and spend their entire life travelling with their tens of millions of pounds, being waited on hand and foot, and shagging the fittest women in the world. As fun as it would undoubtedly be it probably doesn't do much for the soul. 

 

It seems like a more extreme version of being a footballer. In an even smaller elite group, living in even more of a bubble. At some point you would probably just fancy a weekend reading, watching shite on telly, and having a kebab.

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1 minute ago, Jairzinho said:

I'd imagine the sport does that to them. They all seem to have parents that would have stabbed a rival if it meant their little six year old won his karting race.

 

Then they make it and spend their entire life travelling with their tens of millions of pounds, being waited on hand and foot, and shagging the fittest women in the world. As fun as it would undoubtedly be it probably doesn't do much for the soul. 

 

It seems like a more extreme version of being a footballer. In an even smaller elite group, living in even more of a bubble. At some point you would probably just fancy a weekend reading, watching shite on telly, and having a kebab.

a bit like tennis players too. who the fuck would want to go for a pint with andy murray? what a miserable cunt he is. even when he tries to be funny, he is fucking boring. 

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20 minutes ago, Barrington Womble said:

a bit like tennis players too. who the fuck would want to go for a pint with andy murray? what a miserable cunt he is. even when he tries to be funny, he is fucking boring. 

I read a good essay by David Foster Wallace about reading an autobiography of Tracy Austin the tennis player. He wrote she was the most unemotional disengaged person he 'd ever read about but he realized that it was because of these qualities that she was successful. You or I serving to win the French open, win a £1 million etc would over think it and fuck it up, but to her it was just another serve in a lifetime of serving 10,000s of serves. Chuck the ball up in the air and hit it like she'd been doing for 4 hours every day since she was 5.

 

Its a great essay about the personalities of elite sportsmen and really changes how you see them.

 

, here's a link https://www.scribd.com/doc/134106158/How-Tracy-Austin-Broke-My-Heart-David-Foster-Wallace

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6 minutes ago, Chris said:

For me Formula 1 isn't a sport. The end. 

To me sport isn’t sport. It’s cheese. The end. 

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I’m not massively into F1 as it’s not what it was but I voted the first option because he has been brilliant. Plus he has equalled Schumacher and I couldn’t stand him. 
A mixed race lad from Stevenage has done bloody well to get where he has.

I wouldn’t completely agree he’s the greatest athlete but option1 is closer to my views than option 2.

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Formula one is a very weird sport that I have never taken to, Hamilton seems alright though and has obviously done very well. That first world title was won under very dodgy circumstances I seem to recall though

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45 minutes ago, Chris said:

For me Formula 1 isn't a sport. The end. 

 

Like pretty much every sport, it has been ruined by money and media. They have created an environment where there are too many races, the new circuits look pretty but boring for racing, and they've over-regulated matters to such a degree that drivers get points penalties if they so much as release the wrong type of fart. The end scene in the movie Rush encapsulates the current problems perfectly. Too much of Niki Lauda's personality - analysing the minutest of details, ultra-professionalism, and risk assessment. Not enough of James Hunt's personality - competitive racing with a dash of flair.

 

The biggest anomaly I see is that teams have 2 drivers, each of whom have their own group of engineers, and cars that are set up very differently. The drivers themselves never give the impression that they get on with one another, and that is certainly the case in those teams where one of them is expecting to challenge for the title. Then all that other bullshit like different racing strateges and 'team orders' comes into play to stay out in front. There's no real cameraderie. It's like watching the US team at the Ryder Cup. The European team by contrast seem better able to combine the professionalism and dedication required with a sense that they're mates who are enjoying it too.

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49 minutes ago, johnsusername said:

He reminds me of Michael Owen.

 

That's not a compliment, just to be clear. 

Was literally about to say he's the Owen of motor racing. Talented, absolutely yes but he seems to be, I don't know, a bit manufactured and marketed? Definitely can see why some people don't take to him. Senna for me is the best there was. 

 

Would prefer a load of James Hunt (not rhyming slang) characters to liven up the sport.

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He's an amazing driver. I don't know where to start on the "not an athlete"/"not a sport" thing. The drivers are all - and have to be - superfit. Anyone who has raced a car with proper aero will know just how punishing it is. 

 

I don't know whether he has "natural" talent, but that's because I don't really accept the premise. I accept that some people have predispositions that can be advantageous like for example concentration (chess), hand/eye coordination (tennis), big cock (porn star), etc. However, starting racing at a ridiculously early age definitely gives a huge advantage. It's something that can't really be taught subsequently. If you started racing at 16, you're always going to be second best to someone who started at six, given the same amount of track time. Lewis was picked up by McLaren as a young boy and benefitted hugely from their support. Good luck to him. Most teams have academies now. 

 

Is Lewis better than Schumacher/Senna/Fangio, etc.? It's a moot point and like comparing apples and pears. It depends entirely on your reference points and bias. Look at Istanbul; Lance walked off into the distance and Lewis was languishing in, what, 8th? Is Lance better than Lewis? Hmmm. Jenson Button had barely scored a point in F1 and then suddenly was World Champion in the Brawn. 


Almost all these F1 boys are incredible drivers. Put any one of them in a great car and they'll romp away, but in a bad one they'll go backwards (Vettel in the Red Bull vs Vettel in the Ferrari). Don't, for example, think that Albon is racing the same car as Max. Lewis isn't racing the same car as Valteri. Sometimes that's contractual; often it isn't. Ask the guys who build the cars. 

 

I kniw some phenomenal drivers, some of whom have made it in F1 and others who haven't. I think it's fair to say that unless you're loaded you won't be racing at any serious level in the first place. Pastor Maldonado bought a seat at Williams for shedloads of cash and although largely derided, when the time came, he won a race. 

 

Are you bored yet? 

 

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I couldn't give a fuck about fellas driving in circles in a hurry,we all drive in circles,usually slowly and it costs us a fortune for the privilege. I can't really stand any of these F1 drivers as they all seem short of personality and don't seem to realise that most of them are evenly matched,its just that only a few drive the best cars.

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17 hours ago, Bjornebye said:

I've hated him for years. Nothing to do with BLM. I'm made up he is continually talking about it. I saw an interview with him a few years back and he just came across as an entitled arrogant prick. As if the sport was catered to his personal development and it was all about him. Max Verstappen will soon beat the cunt and he'll cry and retire. 

Verstappen is ten times the arrogant crybaby that Hamilton is. He's a great driver but he is in the Prost/Mansell tradition of blaming errors on every single thing apart from himself.  

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15 hours ago, Remmie said:

Formula one is a very weird sport that I have never taken to, Hamilton seems alright though and has obviously done very well. That first world title was won under very dodgy circumstances I seem to recall though

It really wasn't dodgy at all mate, it just started raining at exactly the right time for Mclaren to take advantage of the gamble of switching earlier to wet tyres.  Hamilton literally won the championship at the final corner, as the guy he needed to overtake had no grip as he hadn't changed tyres..

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3 minutes ago, Total Longo said:

It really wasn't dodgy at all mate, it just started raining at exactly the right time for Mclaren to take advantage of the gamble of switching earlier to wet tyres.  Hamilton literally won the championship at the final corner, as the guy he needed to overtake had no grip as he hadn't changed tyres..

Fair enough, not really my area of expertise, just remember a couple of petrolheads going full tin hat about it.

 

In terms of Hamilton being boring, isn't he considered quite a risk taker on the track and pretty outspoken off it? 

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