Greatest Male Solo Artist - FINAL - David Bowie vs Bob Dylan

[Stickman]

5 minutes ago, SasaS said:

Wait, are you actually saying Michael Jackson had a bigger impact than Dylan and Bowie?

For 10 year olds he did 

[johnsusername]

2 minutes ago, Colonel Kurtz said:

I’ve gone for Bowie. I think Dylan has undermined his legacy by the dreadful  live performances of the last 20 years. I stopped going becuase it was so awful to see him murdering the classics. 

Same here. Charging people £90 to drone unintelligibly into the microphone. 

[Raymond Duck]

1 hour ago, El Diego said:

Bob. Been listening to him solidly for the last 10 years and there’s still loads of stuff yet to discover. I love the fact that he records a song and then never plays the same way again. If you like a certain song you might find out years later that the recording that you love is in fact inferior. One of my greatest achievements in life is being on planet earth the same time as bob and then being in the same room as him 4 times.

He’s heavily influenced all the artists I like. Springsteen’s first two albums sounded like Dylan cast offs. Neil Young said he avoided listening to Bob Dylan for 10 years, as he was worried he was being to heavily influenced by him. The Beatles started making far better music after hanging around with Bob. 
He should’ve been exempt from this, just like the Beatles were in the groups. 

We saw him at Hyde Park when he played with Neil Young recently. 
 

He was playing some indecipherable reggae song which was actually Like A Rolling Stone. Took the crowd until half way through to realise.

[TheHowieLama]

You should check out some of the artists that have covered those tunes.

 

[johnsusername]

47 minutes ago, Bjornebye said:

Who should it be then? 

Lemar v Bitty McLean. I think we all know this. 

[Duff Man]

Easily Bowie, for me, Clive.

[johnsusername]

Bowie, for these reasons.... a catalogue of albums matched only by the Beatles, Led Zep and the Stones. 

[ZonkoVille77]

Bowie.

[Captain Howdy]

15 minutes ago, paddyberger said:

We saw him at Hyde Park when he played with Neil Young recently. 
 

He was playing some indecipherable reggae song which was actually Like A Rolling Stone. Took the crowd until half way through to realise.

I love Dylan but his live performances these days are abysmal and have been for some time, Bowie live was outstanding.

[Barrington Womble]

29 minutes ago, SasaS said:

Wait, are you actually saying Michael Jackson had a bigger impact than Dylan and Bowie?

He did culturally yes. Absolutely. Anyone who lived through that period would know what I mean. For fucks sake the cunt was playing aintree racecourse to over 100k people. Even Paul McCartney wouldn't fill that here. 

 

I appreciate Dylan is great, I've been listening and buying his music for over 30 years. But I can see he can't sing. I can see his live concerts have been fucking shite for as long as I've been old enough to go and just about any cover of a Dylan song is better than his version. And as for Bowie... He was an interesting artist and different in his approach to most others. But I don't see really that he is one of the 2 best solo artists of all time. 

[johnsusername]

Also Bowie, for his work on these albums...

 

 

[johnsusername]

4 minutes ago, Barrington Womble said:

He did culturally yes. Absolutely. Anyone who lived through that period would know what I mean. For fucks sake the cunt was playing aintree racecourse to over 100k people. Even Paul McCartney wouldn't fill that here. 

 

I appreciate Dylan is great, I've been listening and buying his music for over 30 years. But I can see he can't sing. I can see his live concerts have been fucking shite for as long as I've been old enough to go and just about any cover of a Dylan song is better than his version. And as for Bowie... He was an interesting artist and different in his approach to most others. But I don't see really that he is one of the 2 best solo artists of all time. 

Jackson had three good albums. He just doesn't compare to Bowie and Dylan when it comes to quality of musical output. 

[TheHowieLama]

4 minutes ago, Barrington Womble said:

He did culturally yes. Absolutely.

If I had to start a list of what Michael Jackson wasn't it would go:

 

Politically relevant.

Culturally important.

[Barrington Womble]

1 minute ago, johnsusername said:

Jackson had three good albums. He just doesn't compare to Bowie and Dylan when it comes to quality of musical output. 

He impacted an entire generation. I can see Dylan did to some extent too, but it was before my time so I can't measure that, I would say the Beatles and Elvis were culturally more significant. Bowie never. He was a curiosity for half his career, in fact I would say he's become more popular over thale last 10 or 15 years than he ever was in his peak, he's the middle aged white hipsters choice. I don't know 1 person who had anything put a passing interest in Bowie when he was active and selling records. 

[Captain Howdy]

9 minutes ago, Barrington Womble said:

He impacted an entire generation. I can see Dylan did to some extent too, but it was before my time so I can't measure that, I would say the Beatles and Elvis were culturally more significant. Bowie never. He was a curiosity for half his career, in fact I would say he's become more popular over thale last 10 or 15 years than he ever was in his peak, he's the middle aged white hipsters choice. I don't know 1 person who had anything put a passing interest in Bowie when he was active and selling records. 

Bowie was selling out stadiums throughout the world in the 80s

[NoelM]

If Lennon was on this forum he'd have picked Dylan, so would Cash.

Dylan has had as many alter-egos as Bowie, he's re-invented himself so many times, plagiarized, stole, he's never followed any rules except his own but continued to write the best lyrics ever.

His recent "Murder most foul" is breath-taking. He's a Nobel prize winner for literature.

[johnsusername]

23 minutes ago, Barrington Womble said:

He impacted an entire generation. I can see Dylan did to some extent too, but it was before my time so I can't measure that, I would say the Beatles and Elvis were culturally more significant. Bowie never. He was a curiosity for half his career, in fact I would say he's become more popular over thale last 10 or 15 years than he ever was in his peak, he's the middle aged white hipsters choice. I don't know 1 person who had anything put a passing interest in Bowie when he was active and selling records. 

Maybe, maybe not. But it's a music competition and Bowie and Dylan have more and better music than Wacko. 

[Barrington Womble]

17 minutes ago, johnsusername said:

Maybe, maybe not. But it's a music competition and Bowie and Dylan have more and better music than Wacko. 

It's a song competition? I thought it was best artist. Surely that includes being able to sing? 

[Bjornebye]

If Michael Jackson had got to the final I don't think many people would have been too surprised. 

[easytoslip]

59 minutes ago, johnsusername said:

Also Bowie, for his work on these albums...

 

 

With Mark Ronson I believe. 

[TheHowieLama]

1 minute ago, easytoslip said:

With Mark Ronson I believe. 

Or his brother

[johnsusername]

3 minutes ago, easytoslip said:

With Mark Ronson I believe. 

Do you mean Mick Ronson? Yeah he had a big input on Transformer. Less so on Mott's (although he later actually joined them, and it ended badly).

 

Ronson worked with Dylan as well, he was part of the Rolling Thunder Revue band. 

[John102]

Imagine being stuck on a road trip with some of you. Doesn't bear thinking about. 

 

Can we stick LBC on for a bit, mate? 

[johnsusername]

48 minutes ago, NoelM said:

If Lennon was on this forum he'd have picked Dylan, so would Cash.

Dylan has had as many alter-egos as Bowie, he's re-invented himself so many times, plagiarized, stole, he's never followed any rules except his own but continued to write the best lyrics ever.

His recent "Murder most foul" is breath-taking. He's a Nobel prize winner for literature.

He'd have picked whoever Yoko told him to pick! 

[Mook]

1 hour ago, TheHowieLama said:

If I had to start a list of what Michael Jackson wasn't it would go:

 

Culturally important.

Fucking Hell, stick on MTV for 20 minutes, every second song/video is a Michael Jackson rip off.

 

I'm not saying any of it is good or bad but the evidence is all there. His cultural impact is absolutely massive.