US Election 2020 Thread

[AngryOfTuebrook]

Looks like Trump's lawyers shit the bed today.

[Mark M]

So they’ve voted that the impeachment trial will go ahead not by much though.

 

i think it needs two thirds of the votes for Trump to end up getting impeached. Seems unlikely and he’ll just about get away with it as there’s still a number of republicans afraid to go against him.

If this doesn’t work they should start again and do another impeachment trial and this one based on his phone call trying to get 11,000 votes added to his total in Georgia.

 

[Red Phoenix]

On 08/02/2021 at 08:17, Kepler-186 said:

An article on the end of the US’s War on (Islam) Terror following Biden’s election. 
 

Raises some interesting points. 
 

https://noahpinion.substack.com/p/the-end-of-the-war-on-islam-759?token=eyJ1c2VyX2lkIjoxMjYwODk5MCwicG9zdF9pZCI6MzIzMTAyODMsIl8iOiJmdzlCdiIsImlhdCI6MTYxMjc3MTk4OSwiZXhwIjoxNjEyNzc1NTg5LCJpc3MiOiJwdWItMzUzNDUiLCJzdWIiOiJwb3N0LXJlYWN0aW9uIn0.qrTSMAn1QUfw5bSFgS64t7U_nVXexIsqJYwwelGnH_4&utm_source=substack&utm_medium=email&utm_content=share

 

 

Might be best being skeptical of that. The guy writes for Bloomberg and literally has a header image of Biden on his twitter profile. He also completely removes the US as a proxy in all the middle east conflicts he lists.

 

He did say this though as well which shows that he at least has some honesty :

 

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Which brings me to the political changes in the Middle East. Here, be warned, I’m on far shakier ground than in the previous sections, since I am neither a historian nor an expert on conflict and international affairs.

 

He also said this, which isn't me having a dig just thought it was interesting :

 

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India’s current Hindu-nationalist government, meanwhile, has implemented a law that threatens to strip many Muslim Indians of citizenship, threatened to create its own system of concentration camps, and generally encouraged random anti-Muslim violence.

 

And on his twitter he links to a reuters article saying this :

 

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Biden spoke to Modi on Monday night in his first call since taking office last month and noted that India-U.S. ties were held together by a shared commitment to democratic values.

 

https://www.reuters.com/article/usa-biden-india/biden-calls-indias-modi-seeks-to-strengthen-regional-security-through-quad-grouping-idUSKBN2A905N

 

Funny how India gets a pass isn't it? Gotta keep that China and Russia obsession going.

 

On India and the RSS, which has close ties to the current ruling party and where Modi used to work :

 

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VD Savarkar, an extreme Hindu nationalist and early mentor of the RSS, had a great liking for Hitler’s Nazism and supported Hitler’s anti-Jewish pogroms. "There is no reason to suppose that Hitler must be a human monster because he passes off as a Nazi," he said, addressing a Hindu gathering in 1940, adding, "Nazism proved undeniably the savior of Germany." Seeking to purge Muslims from India, he wrote: "If we Hindus in India grow stronger, in time these Muslim friends of the League type will have to play the part of German-Jews instead."

This fanatical admiration for Hitler and his genocidal agenda is not an aberration. It was, and still is, endemic among the RSS leadership. MS Golwalkar, another early RSS leader, also known as the "Guru of Hate," idolized Hitler’s Nazi cultural nationalism, and wanted to create a Hindu nation by adopting Hitler’s totalitarian and fascist pattern. In his 1939 book, We, Our Nationhood Defined, he wrote:

"German race pride has now become the topic of the day. To keep up the purity of the race and its culture, Germany shocked the world by her purging the country of the Semitic Races - the Jews ... a good lesson for us in Hindustan for us to learn and profit by."

This is not a careless, thoughtless evocation, rather a carefully planned political move.

Banned three times and named a terrorist organization, the RSS has now regained political center stage with Modi’s prime ministership. With branches in more than 50,000 villages, there is growing support for a violent, fascist ideology.

 

 

https://www.haaretz.com/opinion/hitlers-hindus-indias-nazi-loving-nationalists-on-the-rise-1.5628532

 

"Shared commitment to democratic values." Not likely.

[Kepler-186]

All good points there. 
 

Funny how India gets a pass isn't it? Gotta keep that China and Russia obsession going.

 

This is a good read about India. 
 

https://roarmag.org/essays/indias-farmers-protests/

 

[Jose Jones]

The difference is that India doesn't really meddle with other states (Kashmir the notable exception), so is not a strategic competitor to the US the way China and Russia are.  So of course they are going to be keeping the Russia and China obsession going.

 

Modhi is an unsavoury character, but he is also a lot more democratically elected than the leaders of Russia and China.  So another reason for giving India a "free pass". 

[Kepler-186]

33 minutes ago, Jose Jones said:

The difference is that India doesn't really meddle with other states (Kashmir the notable exception), so is not a strategic competitor to the US the way China and Russia are.  So of course they are going to be keeping the Russia and China obsession going.

 

Modhi is an unsavoury character, but he is also a lot more democratically elected than the leaders of Russia and China.  So another reason for giving India a "free pass". 

Yeah a well meaning MP could raise the issue in parliament and the answer would be “we work closely with our friends and partners in India”. 

[Red Phoenix]

1 hour ago, Kepler-186 said:

This is a good read about India. 
 

https://roarmag.org/essays/indias-farmers-protests/

 

 

Thanks, noticed roar mag in my bookmarks a bit ago too and haven't read anything from there in a while, will make sure to read later.

 

1 hour ago, Jose Jones said:

The difference is that India doesn't really meddle with other states (Kashmir the notable exception), so is not a strategic competitor to the US the way China and Russia are.  So of course they are going to be keeping the Russia and China obsession going.

 

Modhi is an unsavoury character, but he is also a lot more democratically elected than the leaders of Russia and China.  So another reason for giving India a "free pass". 

 

Awesome. So focus on Russia and China and pretend human rights is the main issue while India, Israel, Saudi Arabia and others aren't brought into focus. If they can work with the latter three when they're involved in so much horrible shit maybe working with Russia and China for the sake of some peace could actually be worth it too. By mainly focusing on Russia and China and mostly ignoring the others it just comes across as fake. Seems more like protecting the dollar and US corps than anything else.

 

 

[s(k)aturation]

9 hours ago, Mark M said:

If this doesn’t work they should start again and do another impeachment trial and this one based on his phone call trying to get 11,000 votes added to his total in Georgia.

 

 

Don't worry, they'll keep trying.

I might try to get some odds on the first posthumous impeachment.

 

[Jose Jones]

1 hour ago, Red Phoenix said:

 

Thanks, noticed roar mag in my bookmarks a bit ago too and haven't read anything from there in a while, will make sure to read later.

 

 

Awesome. So focus on Russia and China and pretend human rights is the main issue while India, Israel, Saudi Arabia and others aren't brought into focus. If they can work with the latter three when they're involved in so much horrible shit maybe working with Russia and China for the sake of some peace could actually be worth it too. By mainly focusing on Russia and China and mostly ignoring the others it just comes across as fake. Seems more like protecting the dollar and US corps than anything else.

 

 

Well of course it is!
 

Strategic interests, and the great game of international diplomacy too, obviously.

 

[littletedwest]

I believe Trumps lawyer is top drawer. Saw a commentator on BBC news last night saying he is so bad he could swing more Republicans against Trump 

[Harry's Lad]

17 minutes ago, littletedwest said:

I believe Trumps lawyer is top drawer. Saw a commentator on BBC news last night saying he is so bad he could swing more Republicans against Trump 

Let's hope so.

I want to see that cunt suffer.

[sir roger]

To be fair he hasn't been given a lot to work with , has he ?

[TheHowieLama]

16 hours ago, Mark M said:

If this doesn’t work they should start again and do another impeachment trial and this one based on his phone call trying to get 11,000 votes added to his total in Georgia.

 

Fulton County have started a criminal investigation today into it.

[Ne Moe Imya]

18 hours ago, Red Phoenix said:

Funny how India gets a pass isn't it? Gotta keep that China and Russia obsession going.

 

On India and the RSS, which has close ties to the current ruling party and where Modi used to work :

 

https://www.haaretz.com/opinion/hitlers-hindus-indias-nazi-loving-nationalists-on-the-rise-1.5628532

 

"Shared commitment to democratic values." Not likely.

Saying "India gets a pass" is like saying to someone who's insisting the police arrest the person who just stabbed them "why don't you care about the people cheating on their business taxes, then?"

 

No one is saying India under Modi is a paragon of democratic virtue. The opposite is demonstrably true! But China and Russia are a threat to democracy around the world. Treating them (and talking about them) as a higher threat level than India is just common sense. I honestly struggle to understand how this isn't patently obvious.

[No2]

They need some age limitations in US politics. The guy in the chair must be 150 and half deaf.

[neko]

[Trumo]

"Do you really think you're going to be paid?" would be a great question for the Dems to ask of Trump's legal reps in this session.

[Bobby Hundreds]

Acquitted. Cesspit senate.

[niallers]

24 minutes ago, Bobby Hundreds said:

Acquitted. Cesspit senate.

The orange cunt could've stormed the capitol with the proud boys, shot several of the republican party seniority and those shot would still have acquitted him.

[Bjornebye]

Pathetic. I can't think of a worse justice system in the whole world than over there. 

[Rick Sanchez C-137]

2 hours ago, Bjornebye said:

Pathetic. I can't think of a worse justice system in the whole world than over there. 

 

*Laughs is Chinese/Korean/russian/saudi*

[magicrat]

GOP Senators just acquitted the man that sent a mob to kill them all . 

[Brownie]

As I said weeks ago, the second impeachment was just a big waste of time.

[Bjornebye]

1 hour ago, Rick Sanchez C-137 said:

 

*Laughs is Chinese/Korean/russian/saudi*

He would have been shot/fed to the hounds/poisoned/beheaded, not found not guilty. 

 

*laughs 

[s(k)aturation]

 

Perhaps Biden can just have him executed, like they did with Osama Bin Laden when Joe was VP.

 

Save time and money.  

 

More important things to do.