US Election 2020 Thread

[Red Shift 316]

No wonder the ‘Coup’ failed - the state of some those carb loaded twats. I bet Che Guevara was in good shape, and Castro was the son of a farmer, so probably used to heavy labour at the crack of dawn.

 

https://americanmilitarynews.com/2020/12/retired-generals-say-young-americans-are-too-fat-and-its-a-national-security-issue/

 

[skaro 5,315]

11 minutes ago, SasaS said:

Well...no. This is the GF.

 

Amazonist.

[Jose Jones 2,662]

Just now, SasaS said:

Well...no. This is the GF.

Dave will be along to ban @skaro forthwith for breaking terms of service.

 

There does need to be a fair amount of work done on the regulations around social media (and probably a break up of some of the major tech firms too).

 

 

Either the twitters and the like are legal publishers, in which case they can allow whatever posts they like, but are then responsible for content and can be sued for libel, taken to court for promoting criminal activities, etc.

 

Or they are a technology platform, with no responsibility for content - in which case they need to submit to greater regulation by governments on rules, such as free speech and what have you.

 

Currently they try to have it the best of both ways, and have so much clout they can pressurise any government and squash intervention very easily.

 

The internet was founded with the grand idea that it could be used for sharing information and knowledge around the world for the betterment of humankind, but it's actually just turned into a mechanism for identifying and tracking individuals for marketing purposes.

[Lee909 11,753]

5 minutes ago, Red Shift said:

No wonder the ‘Coup’ failed - the state of some those carb loaded twats. I bet Che Guevara was in good shape, and Castro was the son of a farmer, so probably used to heavy labour at the crack of dawn.

 

https://americanmilitarynews.com/2020/12/retired-generals-say-young-americans-are-too-fat-and-its-a-national-security-issue/

 

By national security risk I assume he means we can can't fill our vastly over funded and over staff military machine. Probably some shit about Korea or China invading them. 

 

On the other hand its probably a security blanket to half the world

[skaro 5,315]

Just now, Jose Jones said:

Dave will be along to ban @skaro forthwith for breaking terms of service.

 

Dave has stolen our site.

I think it's time people went around to his house... and stormed his front garden.

Take his birdbath.

 

#NOTMYSITEADMINISTRATOR

#TASERHISBALLS

 

 

[Babb'sBurstNad 9,233]

3 hours ago, Scott_M said:

I realise I’m well behind the curve in this thread but shocking as last week was, it was also fucking hilarious.

 

That guy dressed as a Minator was hysterical. His interview was even better, what a crackpot.

 

Just imagine the US giving it the holier than now attitude if this happened in a Middle East country or somewhere. 

I felt slightly guilty, but I sat down watching it all unfold as if it were the Champions League goals show. Prime entertainment. Turkey curry on my lap, naan, and a chilled cider, settling in to see if democracy would survive.

 

Up there with the time I spent an afternoon watching an increasingly protracted and fractious roadside arrest, peering through a spyglass and eating Malteasers. It really is the simple things in life.

[Red Phoenix 1,917]

37 minutes ago, Pidge said:

Great recent habit of greenwald to make a salient point in the cuntiest way possible.

 

Haha! I don't think twitter brings out the best in him at times, I hope he takes regular breaks as well so it doesn't drive him mad.

 

37 minutes ago, Pidge said:

He could also remind people at any time that Trump put an opponent of net neutrality in charge of the FCC and that internet traffic in the US at a much more fundamental level is more open to corporate control thanks to him.

 

He definitely hasn't helped, agreed.

[skaro 5,315]

1 minute ago, Babb'sBurstNad said:

I felt slightly guilty, but I sat down watching it all unfold as if it were the Champions League goals show. Prime entertainment. Turkey curry on my lap, naan, and a chilled cider, settling in to see if democracy would survive.

 

It's what it would have wanted.

 

 

[Code 984]

Reason number 8769 to not storm the Capitol.

 

- You dont get organic food in jail.

 

 

[Brownie 3,535]

Just flicked over from CNN to Sky News where they were doing the press preview. Caught the arse end of it where both contributors said that Trump shouldn’t be impeached and that it was wrong for him to be banned by Twitter. “Like it or not, he was elected”.

 

Our media is officially worse than America now.

[Red Phoenix 1,917]

2 hours ago, No2 said:

When was the last point in history that all our main means of communication weren't in private hands?

 

Sorry I missed this earlier. I think the problem Cook has is the general approval of it, I checked his twitter a bit ago as well and found this that he wrote which goes into detail on what he's getting at : Twitter’s ban on Trump will only deepen the US tribal divide

[Audrey Witherspoon 2,131]

8 hours ago, SasaS said:

But that is the point, it's a pointless whack-a-mole on one hand and gives a powerful tech company the right to deny service on political grounds. Amazon is here not even in FB's or Twitter's position of being responsible for content and I doubt anybody knew they were on Amazon's cloud. BTW, when clouds began I worked on promotional texts for some of the providers, they were all going on and on how the client's data will be absolutely safe, everything will be strictly separated, anonymous, your private locker in the sky etc.

 

Also, I don't think their motives are as innocent as you may think, Bezos is Turmp's enemy from before and all those companies will be taking positions to be in good stead with the new administration regarding calls they are too big and should be broken up, services unbundled etc. Amazon used to be world leader in cloud services so they probably have dozens or hundreds of equally or even more questionable clients.

the problem with behemoths including Amazon, FB, Paypal etc is that they are more powerful than nation states, the need to be cut down and have regulations applied, but they are now so heavily integrated politically this is unlikely to  happen, and they will continue to have such behind the curtain power into the future, why put yourself out front when you can achieve so much pulling strings - the Murdoch way.

 

From a technical perspective with regards cloud providers - the data is safe, everything probably was partitioned and separated from other client (for such a big app), the problem was that the application they built onto of the cloud was insecure, that is not the problem of Amazon, that issue lies with the software devs, they left the holes for the hackers to get in. 

I can build a house and put locks on all the doors and windows, top spec alarm system, Rottweiler in the garden, but if you leave your wifi unsecured, some dickhead can still drive past, hack your operating system and gain access to all of your data

7 hours ago, Section_31 said:

People need to start pushing back.

 

Ordinary folk are averse to conflict, that's why bullies get away with what they do.

 

The German soldiers who marched into the Rhineland were told to retreat if they encountered armed resistance but didn't so took the piss. Atlee's fucking hanky sealed the deal.

 

That's why shitbags get away with things. Entire neighbourhood in fear of teenage drug dealers on a BMX. 

 

That's the one thing shitbags are good at, knowing how to use your unbuilt sense of preservation against you to get what they want, allowing them to punch considerably above their weight.

 

Anyone who says violence never solved anything clearly haven't been paying attention. Human history is non stop violence.

 

Without their champion in the white House, who to be fair was the most powerful man in the world, all these cunts should be fair game for a taste of their own medicine.

 

 

If people start pushing back then as per @Bruce Spanner supporting this legitimises their actions, you cannot say it is wrong for group a to push back but ok for group b to push back.

And this isn't false equivalency, it's basic fucking sense. Some of these QAnon and Trumpo wankers believe their truth just as much as people on the other believe theirs, how can they not see the truth etc - all of the same arguments from both sides and what one uses as ammunition the other uses as defence.

The people are not the problem, the system is the problem, and the system will not change, as it doesn't want to, the people pulling the strings do not want it to, and they hold far more sway and influence than any politician, party, association or celebrity - Tom Jones couldn't rescue this shit.

The chances were spurned the UK and US as Bernie and Corby were jettisoned, that was a major signal of, we'll all carry on regardless.

 

7 hours ago, Barrington Womble said:

If Parler can be wiped off the face of the earth by AWS refusing to do business with them, well they should be questioning their 3rd party risk management strategy. They aren't the only cloud provider out there. And if they are running an application that is so controversial that runs the risk of of pissing off its suppliers to an extent they no longer want to do business with them, perhaps they need a different technical solution. If they want to build a private cloud, I've got an absolutely smashing one I could sell them and I can sell them their internet solution too. 

 

On the other side of this, if we feel the likes of AWS are abusing their monopoly position (I personally don't think they are), there are plenty of antitrust laws globally which can be used to stop their abuse of dominant market position. 

 

Separately I think we need to consider the power these large tech companies hold and look at do they need to be broken up, but I don't think this is the issue here. The issue is simple, Parler is full of cunts, there has been incitement and the organisation of behaviour that has resulted in the deaths of people. It would feel for the sake of $300k per year Parler paid for their hosting fees on AWS it was hardly worth the arsing about and the reputational damage it could cause Amazon and their $280bn annual turnover. 

AWS may not be abusing their monopoly position in these circumstances, I agree, they do in plenty of other circumstances however.

Tech companies defy need to be broken up, or we (in the west) are basically living under the 7 kingdoms due to the capital and influence (both politically and at the individual level) they hold:

Amazon, Facebook, Twitter, Alphabet, MS and Apple, Paypal

[Audrey Witherspoon 2,131]

3 hours ago, Lee909 said:

It's a load of fucking bollocks. Nobody is stopping them talking, Trump can talk any time he wants as can the senators. All the need to do is have a press conference. But they won't, because they can't spout their shite without it being questioned. 

because the TV and Press are regulated, whereas online media is not.

[skaro 5,315]

48 minutes ago, Audrey Witherspoon said:

The people are not the problem, the system is the problem, and the system will not change, as it doesn't want to, the people pulling the strings do not want it to, and they hold far more sway and influence than any politician, party, association or celebrity - Tom Jones couldn't rescue this shit.

The chances were spurned the UK and US as Bernie and Corby were jettisoned, that was a major signal of, we'll all carry on regardless.

 

 

The system is delighted, I'd say....

 

The party that has just won the right to save American democracy, save the American people and, of course, resume saving the world... will commence office NOT enacting boring policies for the betterment of its 80m subscribers (not to mention the other 70m it has promised to govern for as well), but rather with another exciting and glittering attempt at impeaching a bloke who is supported by people wearing Viking helmets and loin cloths and can't even steal a picture without tasering their own balls.

 

Why would the system want it even different?

This is multi-media entertainment, politics and insider trading on a reach and revenue scale never before dreamed of.

 

 

 

 

[cloggypop 11,157]

Business titans pull back from GOP after Capitol insurrection

 

https://www.politico.com/news/2021/01/11/business-titans-gop-capitol-insurrection-457901

[skaro 5,315]

 

A few decent business lunches at the Wall Street Grill and the Dems should be able to secure at least 3 terms.

[Red Shift 316]

Intermission

 

 

[Red Shift 316]

State of emergency for DC

[Bjornebye 26,622]

1 hour ago, Red Shift said:

Intermission

 

 

More of these intermissions please. Who the hell are they, tell me more 

[Red Shift 316]

5 minutes ago, Bjornebye said:

More of these intermissions please. Who the hell are they, tell me more 

No idea. I was swiping thru youtube and instantly spotted all four of them.

[No2 1,047]

3 hours ago, Red Shift said:

Intermission

 

 

Can be there be 2 more perfect sets of tits in any band anywhere in the world? Fucking hell.

[Bjornebye 26,622]

Just now, No2 said:

Can be there be 2 more perfect sets of tits in any band anywhere in the world? Fucking hell.

Not since Oasis split up 

[Mudface 3,664]

They gave in to the snowflake soyboy?

 

 

[No2 1,047]

Just now, Bjornebye said:

Not since Oasis split up 

A video like that that like change your entire day. I was up early with good intentions, now it be 3 o'clock before I'm satisfied I've found every video of them on the Internet.

[Bjornebye 26,622]

1 minute ago, No2 said:

A video like that that like change your entire day. I was up early with good intentions, now it be 3 o'clock before I'm satisfied I've found every video of them on the Internet.

I’ll be learning new cords on my cock today