US Election 2020 Thread

[Creator Supreme]

6 hours ago, John102 said:

Not sure if it's been posted already but 2x Olympic gold medalist Klete Keller was arrested for attending the storming of building. 

 

He will be disappointed when he looks back, as he isn't that sort of bro. 

 

 

Just googled him, seems his life went to shit when he packed in swimming and for a while was homeless. Not something I'd normally wish on people but in his case fuck him, hope he ends up on the streets again with Trump and Bannon in the neighbouring cardboard boxes!

[Gnasher]

6 hours ago, skaro said:

To cut a long story short.

I lost my mind.

[Bruce Spanner]

I can’t think why there’s been upheaval...

 

[TheHowieLama]

12 hours ago, Red Shift said:

 

However, that’s it from me, in terms of my spoiling the pro dem party/gloat gloat the wicked Trump is dead revelry. I’m now satisfied that the Dems won above board. Not that it matters.

 

What do you think about Russian collusion in 2016?

[Moo]

12 hours ago, Red Shift said:

Really, three months? Bloody hell time flies.

 

As I’ve said a few times now, I have had unanswered questions about the way the election unfolded. It’s not about wanting Trump to win, or Biden to lose. I’m genuinely anti - establishment. On election night and in the following days, it just took so bloody long to count the damn votes, and yes, I’ll be honest, I found it hard to accept Biden had turned over a several hundred thousand vote Trump lead in, I think, Pennsylvania, at first. Not just because of the size of the lead, but because with all the vitriol toward Trump over his term I wouldn’t put it past them to cheat, to get rid of him. I trust the Dems as little as I trust Trump, in effect. The political system in the US is for all intents and purposes, fucked.

 

As for looking for any possible sign that the Dems had rolled Trump in an anti constitutional way, I was hardly likely to get any info from a left dem supporting media, was I?

 

However, that’s it from me, in terms of my spoiling the pro dem party/gloat gloat the wicked Trump is dead revelry. I’m now satisfied that the Dems won above board. Not that it matters.

Meet the new Boss, same as the old Boss. It’s been my motto for decades as society crumbles. I’m more of supporter of a resource based global economy as per Bucky Fuller/Jacques Fresco/Peter Joseph.

 

 

If you were impartial why wouldn't you question how someone as bad and divisive as Trump got so many votes to take such a lead over Biden in the first place?  How do you know that wasn't fraud?   

He who shouts loudest and all that.

[M_B]

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2021/jan/15/trump-republicans-election-defeat-club-for-growth

 

Billionaires backed Republicans who sought to reverse US election results

Guardian analysis shows Club for Growth has spent $20m supporting 42 rightwing lawmakers who voted to invalidate Biden victory

 

An anti-tax group funded primarily by billionaires has emerged as one of the biggest backers of the Republican lawmakers who sought to overturn the US election results, according to an analysis by the Guardian.

The Club for Growth has supported the campaigns of 42 of the rightwing Republicans senators and members of Congress who voted last week to challenge US election results, doling out an estimated $20m to directly and indirectly support their campaigns in 2018 and 2020, according to data compiled by the Center for Responsive Politics.

About 30 of the Republican hardliners received more than $100,000 in indirect and direct support from the group.

The Club for Growth’s biggest beneficiaries include Josh Hawley and Ted Cruz, the two Republican senators who led the effort to invalidate Joe Biden’s electoral victory, and the newly elected far-right gun-rights activist Lauren Boebert, a QAnon conspiracy theorist. Boebert was criticised last week for tweeting about the House speaker Nancy Pelosi’s location during the attack on the Capitol, even after lawmakers were told not to do so by police.

Public records show the Club for Growth’s largest funders are the billionaire Richard Uihlein, the Republican co-founder of the Uline shipping supply company in Wisconsin, and Jeffrey Yass, the co-founder of Susquehanna International Group, an options trading group based in Philadelphia that also owns a sports betting company in Dublin.

While Uihlein and Yass have kept a lower profile than other billionaire donors such as Michael Bloomberg and the late Sheldon Adelson, their backing of the Club for Growth has helped to transform the organization from one traditionally known as an anti-regulatory and anti-tax pro-business pressure group to one that backs some of the most radical and anti-democratic Republican lawmakers in Congress.

“Here’s the thing about the hyper wealthy. They believe that their hyper-wealth grants them the ability to not be accountable. And that is not the case. If you’ve made billions of dollars, good on you. But that doesn’t make you any less accountable for funding anti-democratic or authoritarian candidates and movements,” said Reed Galen, a former Republican strategist who co-founded the Lincoln Project, the anti-Trump campaigners.

Galen said he believed groups such as the Club for Growth now served to cater to Republican donors’ own personal agenda, and not what used to be considered “conservative principles”.

The Lincoln Project has said it would devote resources to putting pressure not just on Hawley, which the group accused of committing sedition, but also on his donors.

The Club for Growth has so far escaped scrutiny for its role supporting the anti-democratic Republicans because it does not primarily make direct contributions to candidates. Instead, it uses its funds to make “outside” spending decisions, like attacking a candidate’s opponents.

In 2018, Club for Growth spent nearly $3m attacking the Democratic senator Claire McCaskill in Missouri, a race that was ultimately won by Hawley, the 41-year-old Yale law graduate with presidential ambitions who has amplified Donald Trump’s baseless lies about election fraud.

That year, it also spent $1.2m to attack the Texas Democrat Beto O’Rourke, who challenged – and then narrowly lost – against Cruz.

Other legislators supported by Club for Growth include Matt Rosendale, who this week called for the resignation of fellow Republican Liz Cheney after she said she would support impeachment of the president, and Lance Gooden, who accused Pelosi of being just as responsible for last week’s riot as Trump.

Dozens of the Republicans supported by Club for Growth voted to challenge the election results even after insurrectionist stormed the Capitol, which led to five deaths, including the murder of a police officer.

The Club for Growth has changed markedly as the group’s leadership has changed hands. The Republican senator Pat Toomey, who used to lead the group, has recently suggested he was open to considering voting for Trump’s impeachment, and criticised colleagues for disputing election results. Its current head, David McIntosh, is a former Republican member of Congress who accompanied Trump on a final trip to Georgia last week, the night before Republican candidates David Perdue and Kelly Loeffler, both heavily supported by the Club for Growth, lost runoff elections to their Democratic opponents.

Neither the Club for Growth nor McIntosh responded to requests for comment.

Public records show that Richard Uihlein, whose family founded Schlitz beer, donated $27m to the Club for Growth in 2020, and $6.7m in 2018. Uihlein and his wife, Liz, have been called “the most powerful conservative couple you’ve never heard of” by the New York Times. Richard Uihlein, the New York Times said, was known for underwriting “firebrand anti-establishment” candidates like Roy Moore, who Uihlein supported in a Senate race even after it was alleged he had sexually abused underage girls. Moore denied the allegations.

A spokesman for the Uihleins declined to comment.

Yass of Susquehanna International, who is listed on public documents as having donated $20.7m to the Club for Growth in 2020 and $3.8m in 2018, also declined to comment. Yass is one of six founders of Susquehanna, called a “crucial engine of the $5tn global exchange-traded fund market” in a 2018 Bloomberg News profile. The company was grounded on the basis of the six founders mutual love of poker and the notion that training for “probability-based” decisions could be useful in trading markets. Susquehanna’s Dublin-based company, Nellie Analytics, wages on sports.

In a 2020 conference on the business of sports betting, Yass said sports betting was a $250bn industry globally, but that with “help” from legislators, it could become a trillion-dollar industry.

A 2009 profile of Yass in Philadelphia magazine described how secrecy pervades Susquehanna, and that people who know the company say “stealth” is a word often used to describe its modus operandi. The article suggested Yass was largely silent about his company because he does not like to share what he does and how, and that those who know him believe he is “very nervous” about his own security.

Yass, who is described in some media accounts as a libertarian, also donated to the Protect America Pac, an organisation affiliated with Republican senator Rand Paul. The Pac’s website falsely claims that Democrats stole the 2020 election.

[TheHowieLama]

Everyone's favorite Wookie - the QAnon Shaman - he of organic prison food - has had his lawyer publicly call for a pardon from Trump cuz "he owes it to him."

[Red Shift]

1 hour ago, TheHowieLama said:

What do you think about Russian collusion in 2016?

Possible - both sides had a go at each other, to be fair (Hilary Clinton’s server)

If you’re asking whether I’ve called out Trump on anything, then the answer is yes.

Here’s one example, with regard to the whole NATO funding fiasco.

 

https://www.politico.eu/article/primer-for-president-trump-how-nato-funding-really-works/

 

https://www.nato.int/cps/ro/natohq/topics_67655.htm

[TheHowieLama]

48 minutes ago, Red Shift said:

Possible - both sides had a go at each other, to be fair (Hilary Clinton’s server)

If you’re asking whether I’ve called out Trump on anything, then the answer is yes.

Here’s one example, with regard to the whole NATO funding fiasco.

 

https://www.politico.eu/article/primer-for-president-trump-how-nato-funding-really-works/

 

https://www.nato.int/cps/ro/natohq/topics_67655.htm

Interesting that an anti-establishment guy would answer like that. 

[Scooby Dudek]

Apart from the fact it is bollocks, one of the reasons for me to assume Trump is coming out with his usual shit is the fact that anyone who know anything about him predicted it is what he would do; 

 

This is from August, so 10 weeks before the election, a lifelong Republican and ex Trump chief of staff.

 

5 minutes in takes about up coming election and approx 7:20 in about what will happen if he loses.

 

 

[Chocoholic]

Watching a press conference by DC Mayor, Bowser, and relevant team leaders involved in security for the inauguration, and they seem to have things well covered. This information comes after seeing and hearing headline reports of thousands of National Guard personnel around a very well secured DC in the days before and after the event.

 

Two questions come to mind;

 

Are there sufficient National Guard and other security measures being made available for the 50 State capitals which will be subject to an onslaught of very well publicised armed protests?

 

The security appears to be very much based on the presence of human restriction in the area, but given how mad these bastards are, and with the amount of ex-servicemen among their ranks with specialist expertise, is there any focus on the possibility of an external threat, such as aerial or even a remote launched missile attack?

 

They may sound either naive or sensationalist, or both, but it's been something I've been thinking about, as surreal as it may be to think of this.

[s(k)aturation]

4 hours ago, TheHowieLama said:

What do you think about Russian collusion in 2016?

I sent a Letter to Brezhnev.

 

 

[sir roger]

4 minutes ago, Chocoholic said:

Watching a press conference by DC Mayor, Bowser, and relevant team leaders involved in security for the inauguration, and they seem to have things well covered. This information comes after seeing and hearing headline reports of thousands of National Guard personnel around a very well secured DC in the days before and after the event.

 

Two questions come to mind;

 

Are there sufficient National Guard and other security measures being made available for the 50 State capitals which will be subject to an onslaught of very well publicised armed protests?

 

The security appears to be very much based on the presence of human restriction in the area, but given how mad these bastards are, and with the amount of ex-servicemen among their ranks with specialist expertise, is there any focus on the possibility of an external threat, such as aerial or even a remote launched missile attack?

 

They may sound either naive or sensationalist, or both, but it's been something I've been thinking about, as surreal as it may be to think of this.

After last week surely every angle will have been gone over and over with a fine tooth comb.

I have never met anyone called Bowser that I haven't thrown a ball towards.

 

[s(k)aturation]

8 minutes ago, Chocoholic said:

such as aerial or even a remote launched missile attack?

 

They may sound either naive or sensationalist, or both, but it's been something I've been thinking about, as surreal as it may be to think of this.

 

9/11 2.0

 

 

[Mudface]

1 minute ago, sir roger said:

After last week surely every angle will have been gone over and over with a fine tooth comb.

I have never met anyone called Bowser that I haven't thrown a ball towards.

 

He'd have your arm off.

 

[Anubis]

Walmart at it again, encouraging people to buy two weeks supplies. They’ve upped it from ten days...

 

[cloggypop]

24 minutes ago, Chocoholic said:

Watching a press conference by DC Mayor, Bowser, and relevant team leaders involved in security for the inauguration, and they seem to have things well covered. This information comes after seeing and hearing headline reports of thousands of National Guard personnel around a very well secured DC in the days before and after the event.

 

Two questions come to mind;

 

Are there sufficient National Guard and other security measures being made available for the 50 State capitals which will be subject to an onslaught of very well publicised armed protests?

 

The security appears to be very much based on the presence of human restriction in the area, but given how mad these bastards are, and with the amount of ex-servicemen among their ranks with specialist expertise, is there any focus on the possibility of an external threat, such as aerial or even a remote launched missile attack?

 

They may sound either naive or sensationalist, or both, but it's been something I've been thinking about, as surreal as it may be to think of this.

What about the current servicemen amongst their ranks? What about Q in Congress? 

 

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-election-2020/marjorie-taylor-greene-mask-trump-impeachment-b1786952.html

[Anubis]

3 hours ago, TheHowieLama said:

Everyone's favorite Wookie - the QAnon Shaman - he of organic prison food - has had his lawyer publicly call for a pardon from Trump cuz "he owes it to him."

 

This is a thread on the prosecution filing to keep him in custody. I get the impression they don’t like him...

 

Starts here...

 

 

[Anubis]

Pelosi just appointed retired Lt. Gen. Russell Honoré to investigate Capitol security. Comes with a rep as a bit of a badass. Looking at his Twitter stream he looks like he has no time for QAnon and the Proud Boys, or the Capitol police alleged to have been involved in allowing the protesters in. May get interesting.

[cloggypop]

5 minutes ago, Anubis said:

Pelosi just appointed retired Lt. Gen. Russell Honoré to investigate Capitol security. Comes with a rep as a bit of a badass. Looking at his Twitter stream he looks like he has no time for QAnon and the Proud Boys, or the Capitol police alleged to have been involved in allowing the protesters in. May get interesting.

I don't blame her

 

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-election-2020/lauren-bobert-qanon-capitol-riots-pelosi-b1786237.html

[cloggypop]

Also Boebert

 

https://www.denverpost.com/2021/01/12/lauren-boebert-guns-congress-security-stop/

 

 

[Rico1304]

Hey look, spreading lies about cheating in the election looks like it has consequences. No doubt RS will take note.  
 

 

[Chocoholic]

Every sentence there is a testament to the decision to 'publish this populist bullshit for as long as we can get away with it'.

[Anubis]

Excerpt from the prosecution papers of that Jenna Ryan bird who took a private jet to the Capitol protests. Love the bit where she takes time out from insurrection to do some business networking.

 

 

 

And this is from an article on various rioters. Crying laughing.

 

Quote

Ryan, who runs a life-coaching business called SelfLoveU and has previously hosted an advertising segment on a local radio station, dug in further on Twitter, retweeting election conspiracies and offering to provide real estate services if Texas secedes from the Union. 
 

“Can’t face federal charges for exercising my right to freedom of speech and assembly,” she wrote last week, adding that she was “an innocent person who is not a professional rioter; someone just living and standing up for what I believe in.” 

 

“You can never cancel Jenna Ryan,” she wrote. However, by Monday, she said her publisher had canceled her self help book that was due out next month.

 

[Bjornebye]

4 minutes ago, Anubis said:

Excerpt from the prosecution papers of that Jenna Ryan bird who took a private jet to the Capitol protests. Love the bit where she takes time out from insurrection to do some business networking.

 

Is she calling it fake news?