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US Election 2020 Thread


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4 minutes ago, Red Phoenix said:

 

It's just not legitimate because it's right wingers. If it was centrist/left it'd be fine mostly.

 

 

Same reply really. If a sitting Dem president convinced millions of his/her supporters that the election was being stolen and just before he/she was about to leave, supporters took over the capitol for a few hours to protest, many would celebrate. Things would soon turn sour though when it was found out that someone had been shot.

 

Then the blame would probably be on the authorities behind the shooting and not the president.

 

It's not about trying to side with Trump or his supporters, just trying to understand it a little more and see it more for what it actually was instead of the facsist coup(tm) that we'll read about for the time being.

 

And yeah, at least people would actually care more about the person that got shot I suppose if it was the other way around. I'm sure the members of gov were safe and that gun didn't need to go off. I'm not really with "it wouldn't happen", all it takes is for a mental president on the Dem side riling up supporters to try and cling onto power. I'm sure that before Trump got in there was a whole load of things that "wouldn't happen", but that have done over the last four years.

 

 

Yeah it's "loud ignorance" to think that the Trump supporter getting shot was the worst thing that happened, to see people sick of their corrupt gov instead of left, right or center, even if they have been duped by their leader. To be wary of the FBI finding pipe bombs when they have a history of having being involved in the plots they uncover.

 

I look forward to seeing equal concern next time the US gov arranges an actual coup in some other country instead of some Trump supporters spending a few hours in government buildings with no actual coup attempt having taken place at all.

 

Fine people on both sides?....

 

If this is your real POV then you really haven't been paying attention. The World knows the Dems have warmongering in their DNA. They don't however have blind and intellectually challenged people supporting them like the Reps do.

 

If Trump told his base to go out and do damage, they'd do it without question. Dem supporters on the other hand would question what they're being told to do and weigh up the Rights and Wrongs of it. That's the big difference. If you find yourself supporting the likes of Trump's base then you need to give your head a wobble.

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14 minutes ago, Red Phoenix said:

 

It's just not legitimate because it's right wingers. If it was centrist/left it'd be fine mostly.

 

 

Same reply really. If a sitting Dem president convinced millions of his/her supporters that the election was being stolen and just before he/she was about to leave, supporters took over the capitol for a few hours to protest, many would celebrate. Things would soon turn sour though when it was found out that someone had been shot.

 

Then the blame would probably be on the authorities behind the shooting and not the president.

 

It's not about trying to side with Trump or his supporters, just trying to understand it a little more and see it more for what it actually was instead of the facsist coup(tm) that we'll read about for the time being.

 

And yeah, at least people would actually care more about the person that got shot I suppose if it was the other way around. I'm sure the members of gov were safe and that gun didn't need to go off. I'm not really with "it wouldn't happen", all it takes is for a mental president on the Dem side riling up supporters to try and cling onto power. I'm sure that before Trump got in there was a whole load of things that "wouldn't happen", but that have done over the last four years.

 

 

Yeah it's "loud ignorance" to think that the Trump supporter getting shot was the worst thing that happened, to see people sick of their corrupt gov instead of left, right or center, even if they have been duped by their leader. To be wary of the FBI finding pipe bombs when they have a history of having being involved in the plots they uncover.

 

I look forward to seeing equal concern next time the US gov arranges an actual coup in some other country instead of some Trump supporters spending a few hours in government buildings with no actual coup attempt having taken place at all.

An unsurprising response from someone who preferred Trump during the 2016 election and who has made cop out statements like "I'm an anarchist" before. I'd worry that you'd be the type of person who would be right there with them in Washington if you lived there.

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2 minutes ago, Red Phoenix said:

Yeah I got it now sorry.

 

Trump, fascists, coup = bad.

 

Three/four hour protest inside capitol = didn't exist, it was a nazi invasion.

 

Thanks all!


Stop calling it a protest, it was not a protest, they had nothing to protest, there were nazi emblems and facist insignia though so at least you saw that.

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Is Red Phoenix the poster of "but Hillary" and "emails" and "I don't support Trump, but..." in 2016?  If so probably not worth engaging with as it's clear their pov is embedded in that and like many ludicrous people from the "2016 political choices catalogue" will find a way, however twisted, to support their original stance.  

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There is zero evidence of voter fraud changing the election result. Beyond Trump claiming it because he is a narcissist and he said before the election he would refute any loss, its just a conspiracy knowingly made up by a man who is scared he may face consequences to his actions. Also a tactic the Trump regime has come up with to deflect from loss and to earn money and the people who believe it are nothing but marks. The fact certain people 100 percent believe the election was rigged because Trump said so shows that people believe whatever they want, whatever will fuel their fantasies of the world.  

 

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3 hours ago, Red Shift said:

Interesting appraisal below. The Dems strategic plan seemed to work a treat, all put in place even while Trump entered the White House. I pity the American people. They are manipulated from all sides.

 

https://justthenews.com/politics-policy/elections/how-gop-lost-control-washington-and-what-comes-next

 

 

Interesting, as in stupid?  Not sure if you're being clever/sarcastic about the manipulation within the article itself.

Making it easier for people to vote, is manipulation?

YouTube, Twitter and Facebook are liberal? Don't make me laugh.

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11 minutes ago, Red Phoenix said:

Yeah I got it now sorry.

 

Trump, fascists, coup = bad.

 

Three/four hour protest inside capitol = didn't exist, it was a nazi invasion.

 

Thanks all!

Fucking hell you are one unhinged Trump maniac. You remind me of another poster on here and Trump himself. You think you're smarter than everyone because you stand by your view despite overwhelming evidence that you are wrong !!!! Stop chatting shite we all watched it unfold we know what happened, we know who did it and we know why it happened. 

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4 minutes ago, Rico1304 said:

Camp Auschwitz - lovely bunch of lads. 

 

Imagine aligning with white supremacists, Nazi's and facists and believing those that opose these are the ones in the wrong, a threat and an enemy?

 

It's a genuinely magnificent the job they have done on these idiots.

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14 minutes ago, Moo said:

Is Red Phoenix the poster of "but Hillary" and "emails" and "I don't support Trump, but..." in 2016?  If so probably not worth engaging with as it's clear their pov is embedded in that and like many ludicrous people from the "2016 political choices catalogue" will find a way, however twisted, to support their original stance.  

 

No no, he was for Jill Stein.

 

He did say Clinton would be the worst choice of the two because she would start wars or something. Stunning levels of prescience.

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9 hours ago, Red Phoenix said:

Would any of this even be an issue if it was a dem saying they'd had an election stolen and a load of the left storming the place? It'd probably be celebrated. Apart from the person that got shot in the neck obviously, and who knows how much chaos would've followed after that.

 

Both sides are as bad as each other at times too, I mean Trump supporters have been ridiculed for years on end for the lock her up shite, and what do we have now? Lock him up instead from the other side. I find a lot of it boring really.

 

I think if Trump goes down it's not for his crimes, it's because he wasn't a respected member of the main gov/corp/establishment club that's dominant at the moment and caused too much of a disturbance. Surely we have to remember that if they were genuinely pursuing people for their crimes and following the law huge parts of the entire US gov would have to be in the courts too, and it would then cease to operate properly. It's a fucking sham and the law is designed to protect them in most cases.

Fucking Hell!

 

That is the worst and stupidest post since Hades left.

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13 minutes ago, Bobby Hundreds said:

There is zero evidence of voter fraud changing the election result. Beyond Trump claiming it because he is a narcissist and he said before the election he would refute any loss, its just a conspiracy knowingly made up by a man who is scared he may face consequences to his actions. Also a tactic the Trump regime has come up with to deflect from loss and to earn money and the people who believe it are nothing but marks. The fact certain people 100 percent believe the election was rigged because Trump said so shows that people believe whatever they want, whatever will fuel their fantasies of the world.  

 

This is the whole lunacy of it, a substantial number of Americans quite prepared to take Trump's view at face value that the election was somehow rigged without any evidence or even a clear outline of how it happened. Bear in mind that in conspiracy terms we're up there with the moon landing's now. A conspiracy involving hundreds of thousands of illegitimate votes with effectively the active participation of much of the GOP itself (govenors, judges etc).

 

No evidence has been provided and in over 50 legal proceedings only 1 minor infraction has been supported.

 

Indeed the only indivdual guitly of actively trying to subvert the election is Trump himself attempting to find votes in Georgia.

 

Bottom line is we're dealing with a deeply disturbed narcassistic indvidual who cannot accept loss and failure.

 

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39 minutes ago, Mudface said:
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Trump pledges orderly transition after Congress affirms Biden's win and Capitol riot


(CNN)President Donald Trump publicly acknowledged that he would leave office on January 20 for the first time Thursday, pledging an orderly transfer of power after Congress affirmed President-elect Joe Biden's Electoral College win.

"Even though I totally disagree with the outcome of the election, and the facts bear me out, nevertheless there will be an orderly transition on January 20th," Trump said in the statement, repeating false claims he has made throughout the last two months. "I have always said we would continue our fight to ensure that only legal votes were counted. While this represents the end of the greatest first term in presidential history, it's only the beginning of our fight to Make America Great Again."
Trump, who has refused to concede the election, had on Wednesday egged on supporters who would later storm the US Capitol in an attempt to stop lawmakers from counting the electoral votes. The riot left four people dead -- one woman was shot and three others had medical emergencies, according to police -- and left some in Trump's Cabinet holding preliminary talks about invoking the 25th Amendment to remove him from office, according to a well-placed GOP source.

 

 

 

Christ, what a cunt

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20 minutes ago, Em City said:

 

No no, he was for Jill Stein.

 

He did say Clinton would be the worst choice of the two because she would start wars or something. Stunning levels of prescience.

Clinton's/ Obamas foreign policy was indeed all about starting wars though, Trumps foreign policy was also fucking awful but their is some truth in the veiw a lot of yanks were fed up with the policy of paying for overseas conflicts when they binned Hilary.

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2 minutes ago, Gnasher said:

Clinton's/ Obamas foreign policy was all about starting wars though, Trumps foreign policy was also fucking awful but their is some truth in the veiw a lot of yanks were fed up with the policy of paying for overseas conflicts when they binned Hilary.

 

Oh, hello!

 

Here come the real hot takes...

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6 minutes ago, Gnasher said:

Clinton's/ Obamas foreign policy was all about starting wars though, Trumps foreign policy was also fucking awful but their is some truth in the veiw a lot of yanks were fed up with the policy of paying for overseas conflicts when they binned Hilary.

Both Iraq wars were led by Bush's (senior & junior) republican administrations.

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2 minutes ago, Bjornebye said:

Anyone just watch that footage on CNN then of the British reporter in with all the Trump twats inside? And to think the lying pieces of shit tried to say it was Antifa infiltrating them. 

Was that just people at home putting the Antifa stuff on Twitter and the like, or people inside the riot?

I can imagine people at home, who've emotionally aligned themselves with the MAGA/Trump crowd looking for ways to make themselves feel better by blaming someone else.

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1 minute ago, Bruce Spanner said:

 

Oh, hello!

 

Here come the real hot takes...

Anything constructive or original to say or are you going to act like a fucking patsy who runs with group think and whatever the main stream press tell you, per norm?

 

Hillary Clinton's foreign policy killed millions of innocent people around the world and a large portion of the American people saw her as a war monger, the evidence from her time in power suggests they were right.

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1 hour ago, Red Phoenix said:

And yeah the FBI find pipe bombs, so it has to 100% be accepted that they definitely weren't planted there at all so that this could be classed as domestic terrorism and that there's zero chance it was one of the classic FBI plots that later turned out to have had FBI involvement in the first place. I'll keep a bit of doubt on that I think.

Marvellous stuff.

 

In all seriousness, a year of weekly psychotherapy would do you the world of good.

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