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    • I think we have the new issue for SOS and us fans to rally around - a German model of ownership? Let's be honest - there are a few clubs who seem to think any changes will only apply to the 6 - I can't see the Ev, Wolves, West Ham, being happy that they have to spend what they earn. And fan ownership is integral to any fit and proper test.    I think FSG have been good for us on the whole - but there have been too many mistakes, and this one was a lot more serious. It pretty much said 'we find you fans a hindrance and we'd rather you were not there'. They have sold our culture and us as a fanbase to sponsors and Jurgen (their best decision) and yet they saw what we were as an obstacle. Something to sell to the Asian and American market - but something to destroy. I'm not sure they can come back from that.    But, if we spend what we make - I am happy with that. 
    • I don’t agree.  While football has been a mess for quite a while, it was still competitive in that 99% of matches had a material affect on a team. This project would have resulted in a load of games between big clubs with absolutely no negative outcome. It would literally not matter if you won or lost.  And on top of that, our reason to exist, our wine at the banquet, the European Cup, was gone for ever.  Nah, this one killed football. If this had gone ahead it would have changed football forever. 
    • The confusing thing for FSG, is they spend what they earn.  The fans complain, well spend more. FSG say we have come up with a way of earning/spending more. The fans will be made up. The fans complain and say the only way to get past this is to spend more.   Not a defense but I think it makes sense from a logical point of view.   I just refuse to believe not a single club did any sort of in house survey on the reaction to this. Either they didn't which is astounding arrogance on their part  Or they did, figured people would get over themselves, which is astounding arrogance on their part.   Or they didn't knowing precisely what the reaction would be, figured people would get over themselves, which is astounding arrogance on their part.
    • FSG have let the mask slip this week. I've been willing to say they have the club's success and best interests at heart but this statement from Henry (plus the furlough and ticket pricing fiasco) have absolutely left their true intentions exposed.    I hope the club's future success amongst the playing and coaching staff isn't affected long term by this but I have a feeling it will as Klopp has done really well given his resources. But it's obvious now FSG are just interested in bang for their buck rather than long term success.    One for the truly shitness of modern football, scruff behaviour and signs of cuntiness threads.    Well done, John.
    • Likely because 1.) they knew they would get some shit for it, probably not to this degree, especially from our own fans but shit nonetheless, and 1a.) something of this magnitude would leak if you brought in focus groups or some other shit like that to study the reaction so those involved wanted to make sure they were going to stick together as a block.

      Then all of the English clubs capitulated to Sky and the fan frenzy (some organic to be sure but a lot media driven in my opinion), lead by the two who were only there because they wanted their seat at the top table even if it meant they had to throw the old heads a bone by giving them some semblance of competitive parity.  
      Exactly, but this way UEFA, Sky, et all can perpetuate the illusion that West Brom or Burnley have a real chance at winning the CL one day. Even though the reformation that's been announced means they conceivably will be passed over for one of the historic teams even if they should qualify.
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